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I agree the larger phones have a lot of 'plus' [sic] and are gaining traction, but I think the sweet spot is 5" - larger than that they become difficult to carry.
Also with, is it 51% females, I think a chunky iPhone for the ladies would be a hindrance.
Why the "sic"?
 
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I used a curved Galaxy phone for a few weeks while I was traveling. I hated the curved screen, as it added little functionality and I would accidentally touch the screen just by holding the phone in my hand.

And I don't like this idea of just the larger model getting the OLED screen. I would say the larger iPhone is too big to comfortably carry for men, who usually don't have a bag to put it in.

Mans bag! Is the world ready for you and your bag?
 
"Guys - you know that iPhone, the one that's so wide you have to operate it with two hands?"

"Yeah?"

"Let's make it even wider!"
Speak for yourself.... I handle and operate my 7 plus with ease one handed.
I for one hope they do make a 5.8" phone.... Would love to have a screen that big. I especially love that it might have a different screen.... that way I can watch people melt down about not being able to get OLED without buying the "giant" phone.... oh and fragmentation too.
 
I really don't want curved edges. I can barely hold an S7 Edge, and every time I've used one I've ended up touching random things on the edges of the screen. I think they look cool, but other than that, I'm not a huge fan of curved displays.
 
Hope the home button will be gone and t's put directly into the touch screen with haptic feedback. And the phone will be bezeless so the 4.7 can become smaller footprint. The big question is how to go back to the homescreen from apps?
 
I really don't want curved edges. I can barely hold an S7 Edge, and every time I've used one I've ended up touching random things on the edges of the screen. I think they look cool, but other than that, I'm not a huge fan of curved displays.

Fair opinion. The curved display is more gimmicky than anything. Sure, it's innovative, but seems to be more of an inconvenience with frivolous features displayed on the side of the phone. I mean, what's the difference on the side of the phone versus the main screen? It's not necessarily conserving battery either. Most have said they tend to hit the side of the display inadvertently.

And if your holding the curved display with one hand, what purpose would the curved display serve as? It would be blocked by your hand. I think the curved display is a fad that will slowly fade away.
 
think the curved display is a fad that will slowly fade away.

Or... a (non-touch?) display could extend to cover the entire phone exterior, including the back.

A decade ago, we were seeing phone concepts where the user could change the background image of the entire phone skin. No need to buy physical cases to get custom exterior designs.

Nokia especially was into this idea, showing it in a video of a flip phone that could change color to one chosen from a photograph, or skinning the whole phone like with their Aeon concept:

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5.5 inches is already way too freakin' large for a phone... we don't need a bigger one. In the 4 years I used my 4s, I dropped it ONCE. Since I've owned my 6s plus? Probably somewhere between 10-15 times. Not huge falls, but falls none the less. The damn thing is way too heavy and difficult to use one handed and barely fits in my pocket. I can't imagine people trying to use something larger. It's totally ridiculous.
 
What I want to see is the exclusive supplier of 4" OLED screens for the new iPhone SE Mark II (or whatever they might want to call it). Anything else is a non sale for me. My iPhone 6 is my last large phone. Had it for 2 years waiting for a worthy smaller phone to replace it. If Apple updates the 4" then that'll be it.

Agreed with the no-to-large-phones concept. Personally, I'd like to see a return to the 3.5 inch, iconic iPhone size. There's a reason Steve Jobs went with a phone that size, and it's because it's one-handed reachablity is perfect.
 
Agreed with the no-to-large-phones concept. Personally, I'd like to see a return to the 3.5 inch, iconic iPhone size. There's a reason Steve Jobs went with a phone that size, and it's because it's one-handed reachablity is perfect.
The 3.5 was great but it's way too small today with apps using the larger screen. Even the 4.7 is too small sometimes l.
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5.5 inches is already way too freakin' large for a phone... we don't need a bigger one. In the 4 years I used my 4s, I dropped it ONCE. Since I've owned my 6s plus? Probably somewhere between 10-15 times. Not huge falls, but falls none the less. The damn thing is way too heavy and difficult to use one handed and barely fits in my pocket. I can't imagine people trying to use something larger. It's totally ridiculous.
I put a 5.5 in just fine, 5.5 isn't really that big.
 
pretty much 100% done with iphones if this is going to become a bait to only buy the most oversized overpriced models to get the latest technology. (latest technology isnt exactly saying much for iphones these days anyway)
 
So you want them to focus on the minority using smaller? I rather them focus on bigger phones since after iPhone 7 a majority chose a 5.5 inch this time around.
Apples and oranges. The phones dont have feature parity so why do you even bother?

The SE sold more than expected. What does that tell you?
 
pretty much 100% done with iphones if this is going to become a bait to only buy the most oversized overpriced models to get the latest technology. (latest technology isnt exactly saying much for iphones these days anyway)

I think until they get enough supply it won't be oled on all models

I think supply is short that's why
 
And here was I thinking Foxconn bought Sharp so they could make OLED for iPhone. Silly me. Luckily, the rumour came from a respected newspaper.

Wrap around screens, while pointless don't bother me as much as a phone that buzzes when you press a button that isn't there anymore. If it made a click, it wouldn't seem stupid, but a buzz like a sad Android phone is just embarrassing. Removing the button is just adding insult to injury.

A glass back, ceramic or not, doesn't seem like a good idea either, but there's probably a million other threads about that.

My vote for a bigger screen in a physically smaller phone.
 
Each to their own I guess. But no I haven't seen that happening on a worrying scale. I think that people have become more impatient and like little children, stamping their feet and expecting Apple to release something new and shiny all the while, with all the features they want. When they do something different like remove the headphone jack people moan, until 12 months later when they've forgotten all about it. If people want to jump ship to Windows and or Andriod that's their choice, but i still think Apple makes the better products.

Honestly, Apples problem is starting to be adding features we don't want.

iOS 10 for example has added so much crap and just made the whole UI an UX cluttered and childish. The messages app is one of the most used apps on the iPhone. and they bloated that out with so much garbage that now it's a bummer to use. At least give us an option to turn off that stuff. I could go on for an hour about iOS10 and all of the unproductive features it has.

The MacBook is a pretty popular laptop for Apple I'd say.. (yeah no s***) so you'd think those senior citizens at Apple would make something good and practical. OK guys... let's just add a STUPID gimmick touch bar and only have type C ports. No more mag safe and just type C ports. Like seriously that's just idiotic and consumers are in no way ready for all type C ports.

Apple TV is like a prison, and with so many other products out there you'd think Apple would want to make their customers happy, but no, lock that s*** down and make it a netflix/youtube machine. (For those at least a little more tech savvy then can side load kodi - at a price - and deal with that)

So that's pretty much a summary of the 3 staples in an average persons home, phone, laptop, tv. All 3 things that Apple could be killing it with yet they are tanking it with the product features, usability, and productivity.

I don't need to re-post the Jobs interview about him explaining how Xerox choked but it's a very sad and true reality of what's happening with Apple.

It's like Apple is the high school jock, they came up, they peaked, and now they're turning into a has-been.

May they get their act together and get it together fast or God help their future.

Being a fanboy isn't enough to justify their decline in quality, nor their jacked up over inflated prices.
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I've seen the opposite people leaving android for Apple. Grass isnt greener on the other side.

It is though, the new macbook is unusable in a practical world. People don't have type c's yet and consumers are ready for that yet. They are playing us, and you're playing yourself for buying into their garbage.

They obviously have to release new products every year because they're a business and need growth, but man this is starting to get stupid with the stuff they're pulling.

They've lost touch with what the people want and what's practical.

Fanboys gonna fanboy though...
 
Honestly, Apples problem is starting to be adding features we don't want.

iOS 10 for example has added so much crap and just made the whole UI an UX cluttered and childish. The messages app is one of the most used apps on the iPhone. and they bloated that out with so much garbage that now it's a bummer to use. At least give us an option to turn off that stuff. I could go on for an hour about iOS10 and all of the unproductive features it has.

The MacBook is a pretty popular laptop for Apple I'd say.. (yeah no s***) so you'd think those senior citizens at Apple would make something good and practical. OK guys... let's just add a STUPID gimmick touch bar and only have type C ports. No more mag safe and just type C ports. Like seriously that's just idiotic and consumers are in no way ready for all type C ports.

Apple TV is like a prison, and with so many other products out there you'd think Apple would want to make their customers happy, but no, lock that s*** down and make it a netflix/youtube machine. (For those at least a little more tech savvy then can side load kodi - at a price - and deal with that)

So that's pretty much a summary of the 3 staples in an average persons home, phone, laptop, tv. All 3 things that Apple could be killing it with yet they are tanking it with the product features, usability, and productivity.

I don't need to re-post the Jobs interview about him explaining how Xerox choked but it's a very sad and true reality of what's happening with Apple.

It's like Apple is the high school jock, they came up, they peaked, and now they're turning into a has-been.

May they get their act together and get it together fast or God help their future.

Being a fanboy isn't enough to justify their decline in quality, nor their jacked up over inflated prices.
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It is though, the new macbook is unusable in a practical world. People don't have type c's yet and consumers are ready for that yet. They are playing us, and you're playing yourself for buying into their garbage.

They obviously have to release new products every year because they're a business and need growth, but man this is starting to get stupid with the stuff they're pulling.

They've lost touch with what the people want and what's practical.

Fanboys gonna fanboy though...
I'm like the messages app, since you mentioned it and the new things that now can be done with it. On these forums apple gets caught between a rock and a hard place as on a bigger scale what "people" seemingly want apple to do are polar opposites. Innovate without adding new features and "bloating" old apps. An impossible task.

Doesn't seem to me they lost touch, seems to me some people, don't like where they headed. But I happen to like where they are going, although some of the criticism I've seen leveled has to do with their desktops, which I don't use.

And of course, if you disagree with your assessment, you are automagically a "fanboy"?
 
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"Guys - you know that iPhone, the one that's so wide you have to operate it with two hands?"

"Yeah?"

"Let's make it even wider!"

As long as you don't need a third hand, I don't see how it matters if you need both hands anyway :)
 
Since AMOLED is a subcategory of OLED, one might rather question your ability of finding clues as to the truthfulness of articles.

But, by this logic, aren't OLED displays just a subcategory of LED displays? Seriously, I'm no expert.
 
But, by this logic, aren't OLED displays just a subcategory of LED displays? Seriously, I'm no expert.

Nope. Not your fault. That's a very common misunderstanding.

Unless you're talking about LED displays as in the single color types used in old calculators, then what you nowadays hear referred to as "LED displays" in TVs and phones, are _LCD_ screens... which are only using white LEDs for their LCD backlight (versus using fluorescent bulbs or panels).

So when you hear a TV has an "LED display", it's actually shorthand for "an LCD display with an LED backlight system".
 
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Honestly, Apples problem is starting to be adding features we don't want.

iOS 10 for example has added so much crap and just made the whole UI an UX cluttered and childish. The messages app is one of the most used apps on the iPhone. and they bloated that out with so much garbage that now it's a bummer to use. At least give us an option to turn off that stuff. I could go on for an hour about iOS10 and all of the unproductive features it has.

The MacBook is a pretty popular laptop for Apple I'd say.. (yeah no s***) so you'd think those senior citizens at Apple would make something good and practical. OK guys... let's just add a STUPID gimmick touch bar and only have type C ports. No more mag safe and just type C ports. Like seriously that's just idiotic and consumers are in no way ready for all type C ports.

Apple TV is like a prison, and with so many other products out there you'd think Apple would want to make their customers happy, but no, lock that s*** down and make it a netflix/youtube machine. (For those at least a little more tech savvy then can side load kodi - at a price - and deal with that)

So that's pretty much a summary of the 3 staples in an average persons home, phone, laptop, tv. All 3 things that Apple could be killing it with yet they are tanking it with the product features, usability, and productivity.

I don't need to re-post the Jobs interview about him explaining how Xerox choked but it's a very sad and true reality of what's happening with Apple.

It's like Apple is the high school jock, they came up, they peaked, and now they're turning into a has-been.

May they get their act together and get it together fast or God help their future.

Being a fanboy isn't enough to justify their decline in quality, nor their jacked up over inflated prices.
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It is though, the new macbook is unusable in a practical world. People don't have type c's yet and consumers are ready for that yet. They are playing us, and you're playing yourself for buying into their garbage.

They obviously have to release new products every year because they're a business and need growth, but man this is starting to get stupid with the stuff they're pulling.

They've lost touch with what the people want and what's practical.

Fanboys gonna fanboy though...

You mean features YOU don't want, just because they don't appeal to you it doesn't mean they don't appeal to other people. In fact more people have been switching to Apple from Andriod than before, so something must be appealing to those people. The messages app is fine from what I can see, if your referring to the stickers and new ways of sending messages, just don't use those features, I don't use the stickers doesn't mean they don't appeal to other people, especially teeenagers. You talk about the unproductive features of iOS 10, but what about the productive ones? Such as picture in picture on the iPad? Apple Pencil is also great for the iPad. Not every feature is going to appeal to everyone, there are ones that don't appeal to me, so I don't use them, that doesn't mean the whole OS is bad tho.

The MacBook Pro seems to be even more popular with the 2016 version, Apple recorded that they had the best orders in the first 5 days than any other MacBook Pro before it, not only that but it outsold many other competitors in the first 5 days. As for "a stupid gimmick" again it may be that to you, but other people have said the Touch Bar is usefull, is it a feature that you can live without, yea sure it is, but as other reviewers have said, it will take time for developers to develop for it. I can't comment on the Apple TV because I haven't used one in recent times, so I'll leave that to someone else.

Being a "fanboy" hasn't got anything to do with it, the opinion of decline is just that, your opinion, it's one that other people don't share, and some people may agree with you, but from where I'm sitting Apple is still as popular as ever. You are entitled to dissagree of course you are, but calling people "fanboys" for disagreeing with you is just wrong, kind of like the child in the playground who starts calling people names because they don't agree with everything he said.
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I'm like the messages app, since you mentioned it and the new things that now can be done with it. On these forums apple gets caught between a rock and a hard place as on a bigger scale what "people" seemingly want apple to do are polar opposites. Innovate without adding new features and "bloating" old apps. An impossible task.

Doesn't seem to me they lost touch, seems to me some people, don't like where they headed. But I happen to like where they are going, although some of the criticism I've seen leveled has to do with their desktops, which I don't use.

And of course, if you disagree with your assessment, you are automagically a "fanboy"?

Could not have said it better myself! Although I'm waiting for Apple to announce new iMacs and I might be upgrading from my 2012 one. The Mac to me is the best computer out there at the moment, just like the iPad Pro is the best tablet and the iPhone is the best smartphone out there at the moment.
 
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In fact more people have been switching to Apple from Andriod than before, so something must be appealing to those people.

When Tim Cook said that about fiscal 2016, I think it was indicative of former iPhone users switching BACK from Android, after Apple finally gave them a choice of larger displays.

So yes, iOS was the appeal, but I think mostly to those who were already used to it and missed it.
 
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