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Samsung Also Seeking to Ban iPhone 4S Sales in Japan and Australia

It was about time until a company stood by their designs... Chinese, Korean, even Japanese companies are usually eager about copying designs...

You just have to look at many korean and japanese cars that look like BMWs or Mercedes...

It's just that no other company had the "time and patience" to actually defend their designs...

Since Samsung has been copying stuff from other competitors for years, they think they can get away with it but not this time...

And the worst thing for them, they will loose a lot of business from Apple and get a very bad reputation when things settle down...
 
Good for them. If Apple did indeed infringe on Samsung's 3G patents then by all means, Samsung should sue.
 
Samsung mustn't realise that they have a customer base besides phones.

I'm Australian, and I know if Samsung prevent people getting their iPhones - even for a few days - people will absolutely lose their minds! These are the same people who buy Samsung TVs, home appliances and whitegoods, the parts of the business that actually earn Samsung money at the moment.

Not to mention their other major customer, Apple, who is not going to appreciate two of their biggest markets being cut off. Say goodbye to all those chip sales.

They cut off their nose to spite their face.

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SeaFox said:
I'm sure preventing people from buying a competitor's product they want will make people want to buy from them more. :D
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Exactly. Apple benefits from the Samsung equivalent product being taken off the market, because it tempts people away from their product. Not very ethical, but their prerogative if they can do so legally.

Samsung does not benefit from taking Apple's products off the market. People without iPhones look at all of Android smartphones, if they go in that direction at all. If they know that it was Samsung that took iPhones off the market, I'm fairly sure that Android phone will not be a Samsung!
 
I was sitting in the canteen at work a few nights ago reading the paper, I'd just got my new white iPhone 4S and there was a big full page Samsung advert, showing a white phone - a guy (who wants an iPhone 4 or 4S, but doesn't really know, care or bother about Apple & their disputes) genuinly thought the samsung phone was an iPhone 4S.

Saying that, I do wish both Apple & Samsung could end these disputes.
 
It would be a little silly if the courts here banned the Galaxy Tab, yet allowed Samsung to ban the very thing (iPad) the judges had defended.

I really don't see this happening.

EDIT: thought there was mention of the Tab. Oh well, still applies nonetheless.
 
kako said:
Samsung mustn't realise that they have a customer base besides phones.

I'm Australian, and I know if Samsung prevent people getting their iPhones - even for a few days - people will absolutely lose their minds! These are the same people who buy Samsung TVs, home appliances and whitegoods, the parts of the business that actually earn Samsung money at the moment.

Not to mention their other major customer, Apple, who is not going to appreciate two of their biggest markets being cut off. Say goodbye to all those chip sales.

They cut off their nose to spite their face.
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And what losses Samsung would eat from all that would be a lot less than what Apple would loss.
Also Apple dumping Samsung will have very little effect on the company. There is a shortage of those lovely silicon chips so Apple pulling out of them is easily replaceable. It might be 3-4 different companies but still replaceable.


Apple open this can or worms and start MAD.
 
kako said:
Samsung mustn't realise that they have a customer base besides phones.

I'm Australian, and I know if Samsung prevent people getting their iPhones - even for a few days - people will absolutely lose their minds! These are the same people who buy Samsung TVs, home appliances and whitegoods, the parts of the business that actually earn Samsung money at the moment.

Not to mention their other major customer, Apple, who is not going to appreciate two of their biggest markets being cut off. Say goodbye to all those chip sales.
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Australia? Biggest markets? 22 million people (not sure of the uptake of iphones; guessing at a maximum of 60%) could fit in almost any other country's small towns. Bringing my guess to 13.2 million people. Is that really a significant portion of Apple's market? (Still, it would explain why Australia is included earlier than other nations --- sorry NZ --- which I'd thought it was because we Aussies were so good at being accommodating :D)

I wish that both Apple and Samsung would just walk away from these frivolous suits. I love Apple's products, (Iphone 4s should be here next Monday! Yay!) but to say Samsung has blatantly copied would require me being drugged *and* hit with a 4b2. (No, not the pencil! The wood plank!)

EDIT: Mobile Mania (Some small time marketing mob, i think) has iphone at 10 -20% at the end of 2010. So about 4 million, probably topping out at 6 million. Can't see Australia fitting into the biggest market category.
 
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igorleandro said:
Despite some die hard "anti-Apple" people that no matter what happens in court will say that nobody copied anything (usually Android lovers by the way), I think this whole movement by Samsung is one of the worst public relations they could have done.

I for one always looked at their products and brand with a good eye, now, I just avoid their products basically because I completely dislike the way they have been handling this.
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Funny how simply replacing "Apple" with "Android" (and vice versa), and "Samsung" with "Apple" in your statement still make perfect sense.
 
So let me get this straight.

In an effort to prove that they're not copying Apple, Samsung now copies the legal complaints and strategy Apple is using against them.

Huh.
 
sennekuyl said:
Australia? Biggest markets? 22 million people (not sure of the uptake of iphones; guessing at a maximum of 60%) could fit in almost any other country's small towns. Bringing my guess to 13.2 million people. Is that really a significant portion of Apple's market? (Still, it would explain why Australia is included earlier than other nations --- sorry NZ --- which I'd thought it was because we Aussies were so good at being accommodating :D)
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Our market is very small, I realise this, I mostly said it because of Japan.

However, Apple have in recent years been treating Australia as a first tier international market, so they do value us. Consider that the three US networks sold out of 1 million iPhones on launch. Regardless of our population, 1 million iPhones is entirely conceivable.

Smartphone penetration here is over 50%, and iPhone has 40% of market share in smartphones, so about 4 million iPhones as an installed base?
 
Both companies should just stop this stupidity. It's like two kids fighting. Seriously. Apple should just make a better phone then Samsung's version. The Galaxy S2 doesn't look like the iPhone 4S. I think Apple is scared that Samsung will gain customers or something. That's why Apple is trying to ban the Tab 10.1 in Australia. I don't see any other reason why they would do that. Samsung is trying to fight back by doing the same. It's like two kids fighting. >.< Why doesn't Apple just stop suing for stupid reasons? D: They shouldn't ban anything and make a better product then that S2. Because that's how competition works.

And no, I'm no Android fanboy. I'm not a fanboy of anything. I hate fanboys. I love Apple for innovating. But I'm disappointed that they never really innovated this year. Especially the iPhone 4S. I thought it'd beat every phone out there, unfortunately, that's not true this year. :(
 
thenerdal said:
Both companies should just stop this stupidity. It's like two kids fighting. Seriously. Apple should just make a better phone then Samsung's version. The Galaxy S2 doesn't look like the iPhone 4S. I think Apple is scared that Samsung will gain customers or something. That's why Apple is trying to ban the Tab 10.1 in Australia. I don't see any other reason why they would do that. Samsung is trying to fight back by doing the same. It's like two kids fighting. >.< Why doesn't Apple just stop suing for stupid reasons? D: They shouldn't ban anything and make a better product then that S2. Because that's how competition works.

And no, I'm no Android fanboy. I'm not a fanboy of anything. I hate fanboys. I love Apple for innovating. But I'm disappointed that they never really innovated this year. Especially the iPhone 4S. I thought it'd beat every phone out there, unfortunately, that's not true this year. :(
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*than
 
How has iphone not beat other phones? Spec race? While there are benefits to bigger screen and ram (apple will almost always be the smallest with ram) and better chips, there are downsides too.

Does any smartphone have a better life than iPhone? None that I've heard of do.

So all thing being effectively equal, we are left with marketing and sales. Iphone doesn't even have a competitor in that respect, only if you group a number of competitors together...
 
The Japanese court system in painfully slow, and it's also very conservative. The iPhone 7 will probably be out by the time a ruling is handed down in this case. :D
 
sennekuyl said:
How has iphone not beat other phones? Spec race? While there are benefits to bigger screen and ram (apple will almost always be the smallest with ram) and better chips, there are downsides too.

Does any smartphone have a better life than iPhone? None that I've heard of do.

So all thing being effectively equal, we are left with marketing and sales. Iphone doesn't even have a competitor in that respect, only if you group a number of competitors together...
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Samsung Galaxy S2 beats the 4S. Here's a comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp0HlX1ySGg&feature=relmfu
 
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