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I would not consider rectangle with rounded corners patent as a quality patent. Regardless how you describe a rectangle, it is still a rectangle and Apple did not invented it. So it is a garbage patent and it will be eventually invalidated.

"You get the picture?" ;)

Which part of "If I would have invented the cube" did you not get?

PS: Your argument was about the NUMBER of patents each company had. Did you know that SJ had the most patents of a CEO worldwide? Guess who used them? Well, Samsung did probably without permission.... lol
 
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Apple gives you some choice, but if you're comparing that to Android, then it doesn't give you a lot of choices.

Oh common! That is unfair! You can download Trojan horse applications for androids and as an Apple customer, I can't! And how about these animated backgrounds which cut the battery life in half? I want them on my iPhone even though I will not be able to enjoy them because the iPhone does not offer a useless empty front screen. There are soooo many things I miss out on when I look at my wife's android - like the bigger size and higher weight and the fact that she knows where her phone is all the time - especially at night - it's on the charger so she can use it next day. My iPhone might be in the car, etc. Have to use "Find my iPhone" for that all the time. And if I ever loose my handset, I have to go through the ordeal to delete all personal information just because I can while my mother-in-law's lost handset (yes, a HTC Merge Android) cannot do that remotely so some thief is running around with our personal pictures and emails... :rolleyes:
 
Oh common! That is unfair! You can download Trojan horse applications for androids and as an Apple customer, I can't! And how about these animated backgrounds which cut the battery life in half? I want them on my iPhone even though I will not be able to enjoy them because the iPhone does not offer a useless empty front screen. There are soooo many things I miss out on when I look at my wife's android - like the bigger size and higher weight and the fact that she knows where her phone is all the time - especially at night - it's on the charger so she can use it next day. My iPhone might be in the car, etc. Have to use "Find my iPhone" for that all the time. And if I ever loose my handset, I have to go through the ordeal to delete all personal information just because I can while my mother-in-law's lost handset (yes, a HTC Merge Android) cannot do that remotely so some thief is running around with our personal pictures and emails... :rolleyes:

Yes, choice is the creation of the devil, a mortal sin, a hippy movement, a radical and offensive idea whereby anyone who fosters the mere thought of having options should be strapped to an electric chair and fried to a crisp before being damned to hell for eternity.

HOW DARE some people makes products that give consumers such a wicked thing as CHOICE?!

If only more people lived their lives according to the rules laid out by a few people, we'd live such blissful
lives that resembled the society of Steve Jobs' nemesis from 1984; Big Brother. Steve Jobs was *our* lord and master, he knows how 100% of the population must use a device and everyone should follow completely by his guidelines. Anyone that 'thinks differently' shall be banished from society and called a deviant, thrown into the pits of the bottom social class, censored and banned from forums such as macrumors for having an opinion of their own. Free thinkers are the worlds GREATEST enemy.

Next up; forcing everyone to use an iPhone, wear white headphones, slap an apple sticker on their car window, wait in line for 18 hours to buy a toy from big brother, i mean Apple, and worship said company blindly because its the best without question.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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So should Apple have not copied Android's downward swipe for their notifications?

You really think that every device maker in the world should have their own set of gestures? What a user nightmare that would be.

It's one thing to patent the method behind recognizing a gesture. That can make sense. However, Apple isn't doing that. They want to grab the gestures themselves and claim them as their own.

Patenting a gesture is like patenting a guitar chord.

Has been explained a million times that android notifications are simply SBSettings+Notifications.

But yes, ignore it till you can and repeat it when you find there is an opportunity to.
 
Oh common! That is unfair! You can download Trojan horse applications for androids and as an Apple customer, I can't! And how about these animated backgrounds which cut the battery life in half? I want them on my iPhone even though I will not be able to enjoy them because the iPhone does not offer a useless empty front screen. There are soooo many things I miss out on when I look at my wife's android - like the bigger size and higher weight and the fact that she knows where her phone is all the time - especially at night - it's on the charger so she can use it next day. My iPhone might be in the car, etc. Have to use "Find my iPhone" for that all the time. And if I ever loose my handset, I have to go through the ordeal to delete all personal information just because I can while my mother-in-law's lost handset (yes, a HTC Merge Android) cannot do that remotely so some thief is running around with our personal pictures and emails... :rolleyes:

are you that dramatic in real life too?

anyways, Android has remote wiping ability as well if you didn't know.
before you install ANY app, you are given a list of permissions. the few rougue apps that were found removed from market a long time ago. it's not like the moment you use Android you have trojan on your phone. if you are that paranoid, then DON"T use any app.

it's apparent that you know little about Android. it is highly customizable and personalized.

you see, just by looking at my home screen on my android i can:

- see all the latest calls
- weather
- stock ticker
- contacts
- few apps icons
(and if your screen is big enough you could add more content).

all these WITHOUT opening an app. I can choose to have nothing displayed on my screen, or I can choose to display what I want.

tell me how i can share a file using bluetooth on an iphone again?
how can you delete a song from iphone without connecting to a computer?
 
Gruber just posted a couple of screenshots from SamsungPlayer50's website.

Here's it for reference:

http://www.samsung.com/galaxyplayer50/
https://twitter.com/#!/raruler/status/126062131203407872

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It is really getting ridiculous. So sad.
I wonder what the trolls and haters has to say about this. Maybe this looks just similar and not something exactly ripped off from iOS, just like Verizon did with the Motorola Droid promotion.
 
Gruber just posted a couple of screenshots from SamsungPlayer50's website.

Here's it for reference:

http://www.samsung.com/galaxyplayer50/
https://twitter.com/#!/raruler/status/126062131203407872

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It is really getting ridiculous. So sad.
I wonder what the trolls and haters has to say about this. Maybe this looks just similar and not something exactly ripped off from iOS, just like Verizon did with the Motorola Droid promotion.

Doesn't look like the iPod touch.
 
Am I blind or you? Seriously pondering on that. I could very well be the defective one.

Do you see iOS maps on that device or not?

Didn't see that. Doesn't mean they copied it. It's doesn't look like that in the final product though. o_O
 
Samsung

Like it or not, imitation is the greatest form of flattery, and Apple really has to look very seriously at these tit for tat actions that in the end will likely not do either company any good. The whole issue of these legal suites appears very childish to me and many others

I believe that the Nokia deal really shows what can happen, and am I not wrong in understanding that Apple now has to pay Nokia one dollar for every iPhone sold? Which in this day of the the greed based and unsubstantiated mickey mouse currency known as the US dollar might not be a big deal for Apple, but when will it end?

The production of the A5 chips, the major supplier remains Samsung and instead of lining the pockets of greedy lawyers Tim Cook needs to look very seriously at these actions in order that solutions can be found that benefits both companies in the longer term and the consumers some of whom actually like the freedom associated with Android.

Competition is good for innovation...
 
Has been explained a million times that android notifications are simply SBSettings+Notifications.

Okay. Either way, Apple didn't come up with their own unique notification swipe.

That's the only point of my reply to the proposal that every company should have their own set of patented gestures. After a while, they'd have to become ridiculously complex or non-intuitive. (The ones people think are intuitive especially shouldn't be patentable by their very nature.)

But yes, ignore it till you can and repeat it when you find there is an opportunity to.

Actually, I don't think I've ever compared them before. You're confusing me with someone else.

While we're at it, though, Apple also wasn't the first to come up with the following, yet they all provide a major piece of what makes their UI nice to use. It'd be a pity if these items were totally locked by someone's patents so Apple couldn't use them.

  • Flick scrolling
  • Slide-to-unlock
  • Double-click browser zoom
  • Multi-touch pinch to zoom
  • Orientation sensitive displays
  • Context sensitive popup keyboards

Again, my contention is that gestures themselves form a vocabulary, not patentable methods.
 
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Either way, Apple didn't come up with their own unique notification move.

That's the whole point of my reply to the proposal that every company should have their own set of patented gestures. After a while, they'd have to become ridiculously complex or non-intuitive. (The intuitive ones are, of course, intuitive by definition and shouldn't be patentable.)



Actually, I don't think I've ever compared them before. You're confusing me with someone else.

While we're at it, though, Apple also wasn't the first to come up with the following, yet they all provide a major piece of what makes their UI nice to use. It'd be a pity if these items were totally locked by someone's patents so Apple couldn't use them.

  • Flick scrolling
  • Slide-to-unlock
  • Double-click browser zoom
  • Multi-touch pinch to zoom
  • Orientation sensitive displays
  • Context sensitive popup keyboards

:eek: Who was the first to have pinch to zoom?
 
are you that dramatic in real life too?

anyways, Android has remote wiping ability as well if you didn't know.
before you install ANY app, you are given a list of permissions. the few rougue apps that were found removed from market a long time ago. it's not like the moment you use Android you have trojan on your phone. if you are that paranoid, then DON"T use any app.

it's apparent that you know little about Android. it is highly customizable and personalized.

you see, just by looking at my home screen on my android i can:

- see all the latest calls
- weather
- stock ticker
- contacts
- few apps icons
(and if your screen is big enough you could add more content).

all these WITHOUT opening an app. I can choose to have nothing displayed on my screen, or I can choose to display what I want.

tell me how i can share a file using bluetooth on an iphone again?
how can you delete a song from iphone without connecting to a computer?
Plus through HTCSense.com, you can track your lost phone.

(Not you changla :) ) Ignorant user is ignorant. At least I have both iOS and Android.
 
It is really getting ridiculous. So sad.

If you mean that some graphic artists are too lazy or ignorant to grab the correct screenshot, you'll get no argument from me. We see mistakes like that all the time these days. Same with reporters. It's the new world order, where many people just copy things from the internet without thinking.

:eek: Who was the first to have pinch to zoom?

Multitouch itself dates back to the 1980s. By 1993 pinch was written into a concept video by Sun (it didn't make the final release, but did end up in a 1996 book - see here). In late 2006, pinch zoom was advertised for a coming Linux based phone.
 
Multitouch itself dates back to the 1980s. By 1993 pinch was written into a concept video by Sun (it didn't make the final release, but did end up in a 1996 book - see here). In late 2006, pinch zoom was advertised for a coming Linux based phone.

oh my god. Thanks for the sources and info. Was looking to see if anyone did pinch to zoom before Apple.
 
If you mean that some graphic artists are too lazy or ignorant to grab the correct screenshot, you'll get no argument from me. We see mistakes like that all the time these days. Same with reporters. It's the new world order, where many people just copy things from the internet without thinking.

Are you kidding?

Samsung and Apple are practically at war. They have been suing each other in almost 11 lawsuits in 4 continents and we hear some kind of development almost every day.

The whole argument is that Apple is trying to market their devices as if they are iPhones and this is one prime example; you call this a mistake?

You are one of the most biased people around here. Always fervent to cover up on something or the other irrespective of the severity of the situation. Fair enough. Let's downplay this as I have understood that you will never ever see how righteous Apple is and how deceiving Samsung has been in the past few years.

Take care.

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oh my god. Thanks for the sources and info. Was looking to see if anyone did pinch to zoom before Apple.

I am not able to find one of the articles from my archive but Multi-touch has been publicly shown long before Apple may be in the early 2000's. The implementation was a bit different but the paper had some very interesting algorithms for the same.
 
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