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Agree with you on that one. I bet there was something in the marketing that would have provoked a backlash considering Jobs' passing.

Agreed. Not sure that class has to do much with the move, but I hope tp be mistaken.

The products will be such a 'in your face' ripoff apple products, and marketing would have been be so obnoxious that they had to postpone the launch.
 
Why are people saying it was postponed by only a week?

Don't see any new date announced. Might be a few weeks...
 
The only classless people are those making these assumptions that Samsung and Google are using Steves death as a way to sell products. Steve, Google, and Samsung have been doing business for years.
 
Somebody else already said it, but it was a few pages back...... A lot of Google employees worked for Apple, I am sure that anyone touched by Steve in their lifetimes would find ANY method necessary to attend his funeral.
Steve's funeral will be an extremely private, small affair. Steve's personal life was very, very private, same with his wife. She's not going to let anyone who wasn't very close to the funeral. And no media whatsoever.

As for Apple, if they have a memorial service, it is likely that it would be for current employees only and a very short list of key partners and former employees (like Woz). The average ex-Apple line employee won't be invited.
 
I bet there was something in the marketing that would have provoked a backlash considering Jobs' passing.

I think that's palpable nonsense. It would suggest there are not sufficiently skilled PR people in these companies to do a re-write over a few days. You can bet they could do that if they needed to.

The only rational explanation is that these guys had respect for Steve Jobs as an individual and a competitor, and knew that next week would not be an appropriate opportunity to launch a new product. Respect, tinged with a bit of enlightened self interest - both admirable qualities.
 
The only classless people are those making these assumptions that Samsung and Google are using Steves death as a way to sell products. Steve, Google, and Samsung have been doing business for years.

Exactly. They haven't been being best friends. Businesses sell products.

FFS Apple is the most affected and they aren't stopping anything, didn't even delay their new product one single day.

Why does Google+Samsung need to delay a simple product announcement?

What's next, Amazon delays the Kindle Fire as well?

I'm sorry but something's up and we're not getting the whole story.
 
Bottom line is the Nexus Prime beats the pants off the 4S in specs and we know the average Joe/Sally buy on specs! :D:D

Agreed. That explains why the lonely one iPhone 4 has been so un-successful against the hordes of pukedroids out there.
 
hy does Google+Samsung need to delay a simple product announcement?

Out of respect for a major suppliers CEO's death that occurred a few days prior. If the janitor at Apple died I understand but this is Steve Mother Fing Jobs you are talking about. This guy a a pioneer that will go down in history as someone who not only changed technology but marketing and business. Hes was one of the most influential figures in business. Samsung would be fools to not delay the announcement. Also, its not a simply announcement its a major product release for both Samsung (Phones) and Google (OS).

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Out of respect for a major suppliers CEO's death that occurred a few days prior. If the janitor at Apple died I understand but this is Steve Mother Fing Jobs you are talking about. This guy a a pioneer that will go down in history as someone who not only changed technology but marketing and business. Hes was one of the most influential figures in business. Samsung would be fools to not delay the announcement. Also, its not a simply announcement its a major product release for both Samsung (Phones) and Google (OS).

Agreed. That explains why the lonely one iPhone 4 has been so un-successful against the hordes of pukedroids out there.

According to Marketshare, no matter what excuses you use (BOGO, Cheap, et all), Android is succeeding.
 
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Ok, this is a flat out lie. This tactic is from the days when everybody was using the same Intel chips. Then you could compare CPU models. But Apple makes their own CPUS, Apple doesn't reveal what's in them, and they are fairly proprietary.

It's high time we start using the correct definitions around here. Exynos and A5 are SoCs. NOT CPUs.

You CAN compare the CPUs in Exynos and A5 because they're the same cores: Cortex-A9s. You also have to verify that the memory/cache heirarchy is the same too. If the cores and the memory/cache hierarchy match, then clock speed is a direct comparison.

The Exynos and A5s do have different GPUs integrated in. I'll leave that up to you two to find benchmarks on both of them.

Both SoCs are custom units and have lots of unpublished changes, but it's still possible to compare them.

This is the kind of stuff that makes it obvious you're an automaton, an android. The reason Apple doesn't use OLED technology is the terrible performance outdoors, you know, where people spend a lot of their time.

OLED isn't that bad outdoors given the use of ambient light sensors controlling brightness settings these days. I'd say this practically isn't an issue.

But what does suck about OLED is:
1) power consumption is directly related to number of non-black pixels. Given the amount of white on the iPhone UI, it is possible that a switch to OLED would impact battery life.
2) pentile looks like crap.
3) lower ppi.
 
Respectable. If not for the circumstances doing it during the window right before the iP4S release would surely have given them a boost.
 
Except on Android you pay a large price for the customizability with having to navigate the malware-fest that is Android Market. With iOS, you're in a tightly-controlled walled-garden where you never have to worry about that stuff. That's a big reason I'm going to get a Windows Phone - MSFT will have very stringently control the Windows Marketplace.

Pure FUD.
Have apps containing malware made it onto the Android Market? Yes.
Has it happened often? No.
Does Google have a process in place to remove these apps? Yes, and not just from the market.... The kill switch will remove the offending application from a user's phone as well, just in case the user isn't savvy enough to have caught or read about it. This has been used.

The truth is the malware infested apps are mostly coming from people who want something for free and are side-loading applications from 3rd party markets or downloaded from the net. This is no different than your iPhone getting hacked via the open ssh loophole. You installed something that didn't belong on the phone, and it opened up an exploit.

The "walled garden" approach works for end-users who are not tech-savvy in any way shape or form. I myself am an avid tinkerer. I love tech and I love the ability to do what I want. I see the "walled garden" more like prison walls.... Which is why I chuckle every time I hear the term Jailbreak. It's so fitting to me.

Real world example: Is there an area in your city, or maybe along your commute that has horrible reception? Horrible for voice or data, it is not important. So on my particular android phone, I have a fully customized ROM. I have replaced the PRL (preferred roaming list - a list of cell phone towers for roaming and who the carrier is and what I am allowed access to) with one that my carrier provided to certain "high end" or "business clients". This allows me to jump onto the "roaming" carrier and maintain 3G data speeds. Normally, there are areas where this isn't allowed. I also have an application called ROAM CONTROL. This app allows me more options to set roaming, in fact I can force it to stay on ROAM in areas where there are data speed problems.

There is another application called Superuser that lets me allow or deny Super User access from any other app.

Every application in the Android Market lists what permissions you are going to give it. If you don't agree, you don't have to install.

In other words, I like being given the choice instead of someone deciding for me like I'm a child.
 
According to Marketshare, no matter what excuses you use (BOGO, Cheap, et all), Android is succeeding.

Of course Android is succeeding. Techheads are buying it, many cellular providers are pushing it as a cheap way to move their customers from old, dumb, devices to the far more lucrative smartphones, and there are a number of Android handset manufacturers to help build marketshare against Apple, who are the only one building iPhones.

Arguably, Android should have better market penetration if handsets are so much more advanced and the OS is as good as being described.
 
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Why does Google+Samsung need to delay a simple product announcement?
Now that I'm thinking about it, it might be a media coverage issue, but nothing to do with a funeral.

Apple is announcing Q4 earnings after the markets close on Tuesday the 18th. Regardless of whatever else happens that day, every top story on every single business and general tech media site will be about this, plus all the rehashes of Jobs' impact on the company and on big business in general.

Any product announcement next Tuesday would be buried by the coverage of Apple.
 
Now that I'm thinking about it, it might be a media coverage issue, but nothing to do with a funeral.

Apple is announcing Q4 earnings after the markets close on Tuesday the 18th. Regardless of whatever else happens that day, every top story on every single business and general tech media site will be about this, plus all the rehashes of Jobs' impact on the company and on big business in general.

Any product announcement next Tuesday would be buried by the coverage of Apple.

Funeral followed by the definite sellout release of the iPhone 4S followed by the earnings followed by the media drooling over Steve's book, it will be mid November before the Steve/Apple hysteria even comes close to dying down in the media
 
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But what does suck about OLED is:
1) power consumption is directly related to number of non-black pixels. Given the amount of white on the iPhone UI, it is possible that a switch to OLED would impact battery life.
2) pentile looks like crap.
3) lower ppi.


2) Super AMOLED+ is not using pentile

3) PPI is not a property specific to OLED. Super AMOLED HD dipslay actually has better (higher) PPI vs. Retina.

1) Power consumption is just your speculation. According to Wikipedia on average AMOLED display uses less power, as well as other advantages:

Light weight & flexible plastic substrates
OLED displays can be fabricated on flexible plastic substrates leading to the possibility of flexible organic light-emitting diodes being fabricated or other new applications such as roll-up displays embedded in fabrics or clothing. As the substrate used can be flexible such as PET,[55] the displays may be produced inexpensively.

Wider viewing angles & improved brightness
OLEDs can enable a greater artificial contrast ratio (both dynamic range and static, measured in purely dark conditions) and viewing angle compared to LCDs because OLED pixels directly emit light. OLED pixel colours appear correct and unshifted, even as the viewing angle approaches 90° from normal.

Better power efficiency
LCDs filter the light emitted from a backlight, allowing a small fraction of light through so they cannot show true black, while an inactive OLED element does not produce light or consume power.

Response time
OLEDs can also have a faster response time than standard LCD screens. Whereas LCD displays are capable of between 2 and 8 ms response time offering a frame rate of ~200 Hz, an OLED can theoretically have less than 0.01 ms response time enabling 100,000 Hz refresh rates.
 
why are android trolls always so concerned with telling you how much better their little phone is and how they can do so much with it. no one is stopping you from buying one of your little android phones, customizing your little launcher all day while you wait for hopefully one system update some day in the distant future. but hey at least you can see the weather on your screen too.
 
actually, i think it's more likely that it's the fans of these companies who don't realize that.

It's the "fanboys" who make it personal, whereas the people creating these products know (for the most part) that the competition is just business. Steve jobs and bill gates never hated each other like apple and microsoft fanboys have hated each other.

qft.
 
I have no doubt that many involved with next weeks announcement have a lot of respect for Steve and are saddened by his death.

Moving the event was a smart business move. I'm sure that was the underlying motivation as the tech world will still be paying way more attention to Steve than new products announced next week.

Not really sure class has anything to do with it. It's business.
And smart business. It makes the other companies look like they have a heart.
Really, Samsung has so much respect for Steve, they rip his ideas off at every turn and fight to keep his new phone from launching in various countries.

Yeah, Samsung is all puppy dogs and ice cream.
 
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Steve's funeral is today so that blows out of the water the theory that execs wanted to attend the funeral as a reason for the delay
 
Also, please keep in mind that when Google acquired a small startup called Android, two years before the release of iOS, Android had been working on a clone of BlackBerry software.

Actually, I think it was more like Windows Mobile, with support for touch, trackpad and keyboard.

And let's not act like, just because iOS was released in 2007, Apple was not designing and testing it for many years beforehand.

It's been well established that the port of OSX to iOS started at the beginning of 2006. Prior to that, there were arguments at Apple over whether or not to use Linux instead.
 
I'm inclined to think that this cancellation is more about Steve's death overshadowing this event, than it being out of respect. They want to grab all the headlines, rather than be largely ignored by the media at this time.
 
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