Because Apple sold it first!
And why is it a gimmick on another device - but on an Apple device it's BEAUTIFUL!
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Samsung and Sharp Introduce New Ultra-High-Resolution Notebook Displays
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Because Apple sold it first!
And why is it a gimmick on another device - but on an Apple device it's BEAUTIFUL!
High DPI screens have been around for years now. Apple did what Apple does best. They made a big deal out of it, and successfully launched them into the consumer market.
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You can install Linux on them. If you do that, the only bad thing about the Pixel is that it's way too damn expensive for a machine with just a 32-64GB SSD and 4GB ram.
Did you type this with a straight face. I can't tell if this is satire or not. My "fear' is that you actually believe this. Please tell me I'm wrong.
Does that mean everything Apple implements that others have done before it is a gimmick?
You know - like MP3 players, tablets, iBooks, Apps, phones, notification window, streaming music service... need I continue?
I'll post this for the benefit of anyone who's curious about the quality of the Chromebook Pixel. I have one now courtesy of Google I/O, here are some notes on it:
OS:
ChromeOS is limiting, but we all knew that. It does handle high DPI screens very well though (much like MacOS.) You can only run Chrome and Chrome apps (which now can include native code, at least)
Partly due to how limiting it is, it also ends up being a very simple OS to use, though. I could totally see getting a ChromeOS machine for my parents, for example. There's zero maintenance to worry about, and really nothing that's going to hurt it out there. You basically can't screw it up.
Would I replace my MacBook with it? Absolutely not, but maybe my iPad.
Hardware:
I was very surprised by the quality of the hardware. The build quality is *outstanding*. I'd easily put it over my MacBook Pro on the build quality front. It feels very solid, there are no visible seams and no visible screws.
The screen is amazing, as you'd probably expect. It's a 3:2 ratio, which for what you use the laptop for (internet surfing, primarily) is pretty well suited.
The touchpad is also great. It's mostly the same as the MacBook's touchpad, except I'll say that the scrolling response feels slightly more connected to my fingers, if that makes sense. No pinch-to-zoom, as far as I've been able to tell.
Oh. You can also touch the screen, though I never really do. It works fine though. It's hard to want to put my fingers on that beautiful screen.
The speakers are SO much better than what Apple puts in the MacBooks. I can turn it up to 50% volume, and it is *blaring*. It sounds very good too for laptop speakers.
Summary:
Basically, the hardware build quality is the best I've ever seen. The OS is very polished as well, but very limited in functionality. Overall, the OS drags the value of the whole package down. It's too expensive for what it is. If someone ever took this hardware, put some more storage/memory in it and MacOS or Windows on it, I'd pay extra for it.
For now, if you have lots of disposable income and want to buy your parents a laptop that you'll never have to worry about, it could be a good, but expensive choice.
I saw one of these last week. The screen is rather nice, but holy crap is it heavy! The damn thing weighs a ton compared to a Retina Macbook Pro.
It is also way thicker.
It is also way thicker.
Why do you need a higher PPI than one where you already can't see the pixels? Like 50 more...
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Now? You mean since they came out?
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Now? You mean since they came out?
Strongly agree with this, I can't believe how many 1366x768 laptops keep being released, took awhile to find a laptop with a blu-ray drive and a at least 1600x900 for under four hundred dollars. Amazing how many had one or the other, a blu-ray drive yet not 1080P, very odd.
About time more companies got on board with releasing better resolution screens.
Only Apple didn't invent high res displays, they just bought them.
So Samsung and LG are copying Apple by making displays using their own technology that Apple had nothing to do with developing? Or even building?
Apple was just willing to pay a very high price for those screens.
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Apple did not invent, or even manufactured those high resolution displays, so they can't claim that it's their innovation. They bought the displays and so can other companies do so without copying Apple.
By the way, Samsung showed their 2560*1440 13" laptop in August 2012 on the IFA, while Apple introduced their retina 13" MBP in October 23, 2012. So who is copying whom?
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Poor screen quality is the one area that many Windows based laptops suffer from. They can be loaded with ram, i7, dedicated graphics, blu-ray, etc, but a merely average display. It will be good to see better quality displays across the board.
Are you saying that nobody would have thought of using higher-rez displays had Apple not innovated that particular concept?
I think he's saying that using screens with a higher resolution than that which was previously available is something that Apple innovated, and therefor, if not for Apple, nobody would have thought of doing that.
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AFAIK, the device drivers determine the available screen resolutions, and not the OS. At least, that is the case with regular computers. Macs may somehow Be Different.
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Most likely, they meant "a retina-class display".
AFAIK, the device drivers determine the available screen resolutions, and not the OS. At least, that is the case with regular computers. Macs may somehow Be Different.
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Most likely, they meant "a retina-class display".
Pretty much nobody edits video on a laptop. While some people do, and some are pretty fanatical about it, they represent a small percentage of users.
Most folks are better off with a screen that fits the content without the need to letterbox, pillarbox or scale things up or down.
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You had a 12 inch screen?
I started in on the whole PC thing with an Apple Monitor IIc. The screen was 9" from one rounded corner to the other, and it had beautiful green text glaring out from a sort-of-black background.
A 12 inch CRT would have been great!
17"?
This would be more valuable on a larger screen. It's technically possible and people would grab them.
Where is 17" RMBP? Where are the PC laptops? Where's the screen!?
This would be more valuable on a larger screen. It's technically possible and people would grab them.
Where is 17" RMBP? Where are the PC laptops? Where's the screen!?
Apple made an OS that's just a browser? I missed that.
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It's a gimmick when they do it but not when Apple does it? Come on. The gimmicky thing here is the strategically slightly higher PPI, but that's about it. I guess the stolen design also counts.
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Because Apple sold it first!
And why is it a gimmick on another device - but on an Apple device it's BEAUTIFUL!
Taken out of context, this is true when you're talking about design. That Chromebook is almost China-level copy of the MBP in regard to design. "The MacBook Pro has a sleek aluminum design? Well so do we! And you can't patent shapes, Apple!"
Actually, the Chromebook is pretty cool as a concept. While the one featured in this story is stupid-expensive, the $250 Samsung is very nice.
17" rMBP is going to run really hot! Even the 15" needs to struggle a little. Regular 17" laptops always run pretty hot. That's a lot of pixels to drive.
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I can only see these things being useful for
a. consumers with very little money, very simple needs, and some nice wifi access. The consumer is asked to work with an OS that is more closed off than iOS by a lot... on a PC. Still a big upgrade if you want to type notes instead of writing them.
b. big corporations which want to give their employees laptops. Of course, it might be a waste since a lot of people have their own laptops nowadays.
I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately, it almost certainly not be this year. I'm hoping for 2014.
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When you say "pointless retina screens", you have immediately disqualified yourself as having a post worth reading any further.
Can someone tell me how Samsung and sharp is copying apple when they are the people who designed and built the retina screens in the mbp?
Do you people think that because apple used hi res first that its there tech and they actually made the screens?
Apple buyers are the only people on this planet that will drop 3600 dollars on a laptop and that is why you saw Samsung's retina screen on apple first.
Samsung is a world leader in screen design and in no way has apple had any input on how to build these screens.
Do you people think that because apple used hi res first that its there tech and they actually made the screens?
Apple buyers are the only people on this planet that will drop 3600 dollars on a laptop and that is why you saw Samsung's retina screen on apple first.
Samsung is a world leader in screen design and in no way has apple had any input on how to build these screens.
True.
Apples iPad proves OS X is no longer needed to satisfy the consumer. With so much work being done on the web & stored in the cloud, there's little need or desire to store it on the computer. Google knows this and wisely created the Chromebook.
With a good portion of Apples revenue coming from computer sales they've got every reason to declare Chromebook a failure. Yet Amazons selling them in huge numbers which will only increase as more people see the advantages & get into acceptance. The laptop form factor with its highly useful keyboard & excellent display will endure.
Although Google lacks the ability to create buzz without the marketing expertise of a company like Apple, the sheer usefulness has already captured peoples attention. Who knows where this will go, watching what happens as Apples retina loses its advantage will be interesting.
I think this is fantastic. Getting higher economy of scale for high-resolution displays is a wonderful thing! It means that we will see these on a variety of laptops and likely even sooner on desktop monitors as well, Apple or no.