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Samsung and Xiaomi Plan to Ship Upcoming Smartphones Without Charger After Mocking Apple Over Same Move
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But RAM and storage are the two components that have stopped expanding considerably over time... 16 GB of RAM and 1 TB of storage have been the laptop norm for more than five years now... It’s the CPUs, GPUs and connectivity which have leaped forward since early ‘10s.
Uh no! That's not at all how it is. More like the typical Samsung making fun at it's competitor then admitting being wrong! If it's really the way you state it then Samsung would just wait until they are ready to put their products out and not trash Apple beforehand. I know it's shocking to believe that you misspoke.
Well the MagSafe adapter isn’t included in the box either so... 🤷🏽♂️
And connected to that USB-A charger is a USB A to lightning cable which they used for their previous iPhone and could continue to use for their new iPhone.
What a stupid comment.
If you have an Apple USB-A charger, you have a lightning to USB-A to lightning cable.
If you're coming from Android, you probably DON'T have a USB-A charger because you most likely have a USB-C charger in which Apple gave you a free cable.
Apple thought it through.
A quality company like Apple doesn't stoop low like the trashy company Samsung is...and always will be. F-em.
And how do you know Apple wouldn't have cut features had they included the charger? Apple could have kept the same amount of RAM in the Pros instead of increasing it and saved the ProRAW feature for next year's phone.
Or they could have cut the doubling of storage and kept 64GB for the pros.
Or they could have cut iPhone 12 mini from launch to save on capex from introducing another model of the iPhone.
If margins are too low, Apple will have to cut back on other areas of the product which means a worse product for consumers. Charging brick was the obvious first pick to remove.
It's an interesting "what if" scenario, but that's essentially all that it is, which is neither here nor there given the virtually endless possibilities of all kinds of "what if" scenarios.
Apple also added a whole bunch of things to previous iPhones, like more and better cameras, different screen technologies, etc., and didn't need to remove any accessories, let alone something as basic as a power adapter.
What isn't a "what if" is that Apple decided to change something that ends up not only saving them money but also bringing some additional profits, while the actual burden (cost) of the decision is simply shifted onto the consumer.
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No. It would save them money compared to including a charging brick in the iPhone 12 with none of the features cut which is a "what if" scenario. Funny how you accuse me of doing a "what if" when you're doing the exact same thing.
Not including something vs. including something saves money. There isn't any "what if" there given that's just reality.
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Samsung doesn't need a
I'm sure they're aware...but don't care.
They're happy to let Apple take the criticism and make the headlines.
Then a few months later when the topic is now buried many pages down, they change their stance and follow suit.
It's cultural thing to do. Asian manufacturers copy, to compete, but also out of respect. At least that's what my friend who worked for a company in Beijing, told me.
I'm sure they're aware...but don't care.
They're happy to let Apple take the criticism and make the headlines.
Then a few months later when the topic is now buried many pages down, they change their stance and follow suit.
It's cultural thing to do. Asian manufacturers copy, to compete, but also out of respect. At least that's what my friend who worked for a company in Beijing, told me.
I am no Samsung fan. But the fairly wide adoption of USB-C among android phones does mean anyone who has a previous Samsung phone will have a fast-charging brick/cable. Not so with Apple. iPhones anyways never had a fast-charging brick. And the USB-C/Lightning cable they shipped this year is by no means something which will people largely have a compatible charger for. Not to mention the whole power rating mess for wireless, cable, magsafe etc. to get fast charging.
Sure we can mock Samsung for predictably copying Apple's decision which was mocked by Samsung to begin with. But let's also acknowledge Apple's charging situation is pretty messy at this point.
Sure we can mock Samsung for predictably copying Apple's decision which was mocked by Samsung to begin with. But let's also acknowledge Apple's charging situation is pretty messy at this point.
you're comparing against the scenario where Apple introduces the same exact iPhone 12 with a charging brick. you have no idea if Apple would have done that. that's a what if scenario. how do you know that Apple didn't trade off production of chargers and shift to the production MagSafe charging array that's built in to the back of the iPhone 12 which possibly could have the exact same cost and netting Apple zero dollars saved?
you don't. your "money saved" argument is based on the premise that Apple could have resulted in the same product with the added charger.
Money saved is based on what exists: the phone in the form that it's in with the power adapter included vs. without the power adapter included. No assumptions involved when it comes to basic reality.
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One dosen't need MagSafe to charge wirelessly. There are lots of other options out there.....
Apple isn't required by law to provide a charger at all. If the customer is too cheap to spend $$ on a decient charger after spending lotsa $$$$ on an iPhone than it's on them.
No.
Example:
I run a restaurant. I include a spoon that cost me $0.20 every time someone orders soup. My analytics data is telling me barely anyone uses the included spoon because they prefer their own spoon they already have. The data is also telling me some customers are just poking a hole into the lid of the container to drink directly from it.
I look at the available options and it turns out this spoon company created a new lid that has a hole built into it that costs $0.20 extra.
Because barely anyone uses the included spoon, because this new lid is what some consumers want, and because the spoon and the premium lid cost me the same, I make the switch. I didn't save any money. I just reallocated resources and gave a better product to the consumer. Had I cut the spoon and pocketed the $0.20, I would have saved money.
You're operating the assumption (what if) that Apple built iPhone 12 and realized it's too expensive that they have to cut features out to save money when instead, it's entirely possible they swapped out the brick for the magnet array.
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