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Samsung and Xiaomi Plan to Ship Upcoming Smartphones Without Charger After Mocking Apple Over Same Move
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Once Samsung started attacking Apple's customers instead of Apple with those strangely mean Notch-Haircut ads, the entire marketing team should've been canned right then & there.
I can be Apple's biggest cynic sometimes, but god do they know how to carry themselves with some dignity & grace as compared to Samsung.
I can be Apple's biggest cynic sometimes, but god do they know how to carry themselves with some dignity & grace as compared to Samsung.
20 bricks is a wild exaggeration. I am not saying many customers do have that many.
A consumer buying a $1k product likely already has a port they can conveniently use at home, whether it's a laptop or an existing charger. Either that or a $19 charger is a very easy purchase for them. One of the two is very likely to be true.
I don't know where Apple makes room for this discount you speak of. Offering a discount without taking something away from the product will obviously hurt margins if a lot of people took advantage of the offer. It's not like Apple is pocketing any sort of increased profits, because there are none to pocket. The costs got reallocated. Apple isn't making more money off the iPhone 12 compared to iPhone 11. They're making less based on Barclay's report.
To the surprise of absolutely nobody who follows these companies.
seriously folks, stay away from companies like this who manipulate their customers so brazenly.
At least Apple tries to stick with its message instead of pouncing on competition and then next year copying them like cowards.
seriously folks, stay away from companies like this who manipulate their customers so brazenly.
At least Apple tries to stick with its message instead of pouncing on competition and then next year copying them like cowards.
And yet iPhones and Macs have the longest average lifespans in the industry. Apple also has a recycling program for iPhones which resalvages parts and material (look up Daisy the robot).
The only basic reality is that phone producers exist in a competitive environment. Most android phone manufacturers will continue to not profit despite leaving the charger out because either prices will lower or features will increase.
On the one hand... yeah it seems weird to not include the required accessories.
On the other hand... this allows Apple to get away from having to produce 200 million power bricks when there are dozens of other companies who are making them anyway. (and better ones too!)
And it allows you to choose the exact charger you want from Anker, RavPower or others. Something with more wattage, multiple ports, folding prongs, or whatever.
Let's face it... even when phones came with a charger... it was only one charger. You still had to buy chargers for multiple rooms in your house, and your car, your luggage/travel kit, etc.
I've never been a fan of Apple's single-port chargers anyway... which is why I own plenty of superior multi-port chargers from the aforementioned companies. And their cables too! I've always preferred cables from other companies.
So yeah... it sucks that phones don't come with chargers anymore. But what are we gonna do...
A law firm will see an opportunity to make some money in a lawsuit and they all will be forced to pay money to people who bought phone with no charger and they will have to start putting them back in. Just takes one judge to be made that they bought an electrical device with no way to power it.
Sigh. No. RIGHT NOW you can buy a Samsung phone with a power adapater. RIGHT NOW, you cannot buy an iPhone with a power adapter. Samsung's Twitter message is and still is very relevant and on the mark. Nothing hypocritical at all.
So every other year that Apple has released a new phone with new hardware/features and included the power brick in the box had it no impact on margins but somehow in 2020 it did? I don’t buy that.
Fair enough on the exaggeration. Yes a lot of customers may have a laptop with a port or an an existing charger but plugging into a laptop which needs to be on to charge the phone is hardly convenient. If the customer already has an existing charger then they don't need another one.
In terms of the discount on a charger. I don't know haw much it costs Apple to make the 20W USB-C adaptor but I'd be surprised if it's more than $1 - $2 with all costs factored in. If they sold it for $10 there still making double the price compared to cost. Yes Apple have added features this year which cost more but they also saved money by not including the adaptor, earpods and slimming down the box which also reduces shipping cost per unit.
Barclays report is ultimately speculation. The only people who know the true cost of building and shipping a iPhone is Apple themselves and of course there not going to publish that information.
Semantically, it depends if one needs a charger, that is any charger, the brick is "necessary". I'll cite the example of my son, who just bought an iphone 12. He said there is no charger in the box, when he opened the box. I asked what he was going to do and he said use his old chargers and cables.
So for him, was this a "necessary" accessory? I say no. And to me, either the idea of unbundling accessories is either acceptable or not acceptable. Not conditionally palatable because of what they've shipped in the past. But I appreciate the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander."
I'm not surprised. They probably calculated how much extra profit Apple has made by not including a charger. Apple made the decision solely for business reasons (nothing to do with environment expect in relation to PR) and others will do the same.
1. What extra profit? How much extra profit did apple have this year? Can you be specific.
2. Can you cite some credible sources that claim this move has no basis at all in e-waste? (Given there was a MacRumors headliner on the very same subject?)
Ofc there is a material cost saving, but really I do believe Apple when they say it is about environment as well. Smaller box also means that more iPhones could be transported in a single plane which reduces the carbon footprint of the whole logistic process.
I know someone who worked for Samsung and even stuff like making the paper thinner on the manual helped them ship more per plane. Sure it helps them save money but that's also better for the environment.
Xiaomi actually will give a free 65W charger if requested, at least in China.
www.gsmarena.com
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