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Samsung Announces Exynos Chip for Galaxy S9 Series With iPhone X-Like Features
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The young crowd love them and use them, and that is not an insignificant chunk of users.
Fact #1 is you have not owned a Samsung.
Fact #2 is even if throttled, it is still faster!
This 2018 chip from Samsung single core score is same as Apple’s 2015 chip!!
I like this fact game.
Yet performs on par with the latest from Apple in everyday tasks, even surpassing the X in some instances.
Not bad for a device with a 2015 level CPU eh?
Yep, and they usually copy them poorly. I hate the company so much.
Badass processor that matches Apple’s A8 cpu from 2014 in single threaded performance.
LOL, CPU performance? Apple loyalists really want to discuss CPU performance? Hahaaa. Good times indeed.
Give this a look right to the end...
Probably not the 'average' criminal though.
One of my favourite films
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OK I think our wires are getting crossed Visual Core.
Google have not once said it will NEVER be used on the stock camera app. They don't NEED to use it right now, and are primarily using it for 3rd party apps.
The reason is, for example, SnapChat/WhatsApp camera sucks on Android (truly, it does) and if they can use the Visual Core, they get an immediate boost without having to reconfigure their underlying camera API. It gives these 3rd party apps HDR etc. That's a dramatic boost and stops a lots of faff, whereby you take a picture in stock camera app, then share it to Instagram or whatever.
Visual Core has nothing to do with picture quality on stock Camera, but it can still be used to speed up how quickly HDR is processed - initially 3rd party but even the stock Pixel Camera CAN utilise it. Right now, they may or may not need to, but in the future there is no reason why they won't - especially as Google's camera-processing gets even better.
Also, the Pixel Camera is a USP for Google (combined with high-res Unlimited Photos storage). Everyone in the industry is getting nervous about an over-reliance on Qualcomm and the SnapDragon chipset (good though it is) because, well, Qualcomm
So having a completely separate chip just for the camera is genius from Google, as it mitigates an over-reliance on SnapDragon's (admittedly clever) processing unit. They might not need it, but if Qualcomm go crazy (look at them and Apple right now) then Google have a bargaining chip (pardon the pun).
Like video editing or other heavy tasks? Not even close dude.
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One of my favourite films
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OK I think our wires are getting crossed Visual Core.
Google have not once said it will NEVER be used on the stock camera app. They don't NEED to use it right now, and are primarily using it for 3rd party apps.
The reason is, for example, SnapChat/WhatsApp camera sucks on Android (truly, it does) and if they can use the Visual Core, they get an immediate boost without having to reconfigure their underlying camera API. It gives these 3rd party apps HDR etc. That's a dramatic boost and stops a lots of faff, whereby you take a picture in stock camera app, then share it to Instagram or whatever.
Visual Core has nothing to do with picture quality on stock Camera, but it can still be used to speed up how quickly HDR is processed - initially 3rd party but even the stock Pixel Camera CAN utilise it. Right now, they may or may not need to, but in the future there is no reason why they won't - especially as Google's camera-processing gets even better.
Also, the Pixel Camera is a USP for Google (combined with high-res Unlimited Photos storage). Everyone in the industry is getting nervous about an over-reliance on Qualcomm and the SnapDragon chipset (good though it is) because, well, Qualcomm
So having a completely separate chip just for the camera is genius from Google, as it mitigates an over-reliance on SnapDragon's (admittedly clever) processing unit. They might not need it, but if Qualcomm go crazy (look at them and Apple right now) then Google have a bargaining chip (pardon the pun).
All speculation. Google engineer said it pretty clear. Again, PVC is NOT to improve image quality on the stock camera app. And given that PVC only function is image quality for 3rd party app, it has NOTHING to do with Qualcomm S835 chip or its reliance on Qualcomm in the future. PVC is only an image processor. S835/845 etc is more than just an image processor.
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Well, we can talk cpu or gpu or AI. Either way, Apple is far ahead of Samsung.
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Here is an excerpt from Android Police on S7 after one year:
“Performance, on the other hand, had always been subpar. Out of all of the 2015/2016 flagships I'd owned, the S7 edge was easily the least impressive in this regard. It was the slowest to open apps, often dropped frames, and sometimes became legitimately unusable. It's also worth mentioning that Samsung devices always slow down tremendously while apps are updating in the background. Considering the S7 edge's top-notch Snapdragon 820 chipset and a more-than-adequate 4GB of RAM, this should not have been happening. I was tempted more than once to sell the phone purely because of this issue.”
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And above is an Android site saying it!! It is basically UNUSABLE after a few months.
It is soooo damn bad that the top editor was tempted to dump it!
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You pick the one task where iOS excells and transcodes a 4k file way faster than Android.
A show of hands here to all those who transcode 4k files on their phone on a daily basis?
Other heavy tasks?
Ambiguous much? What tasks would these be?
I was talking about everyday tasks that everyday people do.
The iPhone X isn't categorically faster than the Note 8 when you put them side by side.
I could post videos galore but I'm sure you've seen them.
Sure, if synthetic benchmarks is your thing, then yayyyyyy, the iPhone is way faster, up to 33% or whatever superlative you want to insert "here" faster, but test the devices side by side and the difference isn't that much. The Note beats the X in some instances, by a big margin in some tests, maybe I should post videos, would that be more convincing?
So the CPU you were saying is bested by Apple's 2015 CPU, keeps up with Apple's 2017 CPU.
Do yeah dude, quite close indeed.
PS. I used a galaxy S7 edge for a year and it was never even close to slow or unusable but carry on as you were....
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A faster CPU/GPU bodes well for the future, esp when the future likely will require horsepower such as AR. Even if the A11 is throttled in the future when battery capacity is low AND battery level is low, it still has more horsepower to play intensive apps or edit video seamlessly. Can you say the same about Samsung? No. See the above review by AndroidPolice on an S7 and what a year can do to it.
With iPhone X/8, A11 has plenty of power for future tasks.
I owned an S7 edge for a year so I don't think that reading one persons opinion about it would change mine.
A year you say? I thought they said unusable after two months..what a load..
Mine was Exynos but I'd assume we were talking about Exynos considering the topic of this thread.
What are the other everyday heavy tasks that the X is so much faster at?
Gaming. No frame drops. No lag in transitions.
Here is yet another big publication saying the same thing as AndroidPolice. (BTW, AP is a very legit Android website...so, it’s not just one person.)
https://www.cnet.com/news/reasons-not-to-buy-samsung-galaxy-s8-editorial/
“One year ago, there was no question in my mind: the Samsung Galaxy S7 was the phone with the best camera. Not necessarily because of raw image quality, but rather how fast I could snap a picture. Just double-tap the home button (even with the phone asleep) and boom -- ready for action.
But -- like other functions of my phone that used to be speedy -- that supreme shutterbug speed has vanished. Now, there's always a substantial lag before I can take a picture.
Again, I tried removing apps thinking it might solve the issue. I factory reset the entire phone. I installed the Android 7.0 Nougat update. Nothing has brought my Galaxy S7 back to its speedy original state. (I'm not the only tech reviewer who's anecdotally seen this behavior from Samsung phones.)
Most of the time, my Galaxy S7 is still speedy enough to use -- but it's to the point now where the whole phone sometimes freezes for a split-second when I'm typing on the touchscreen keyboard, or dismissing gobs of notifications.
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I'll see your anecdotes and raise you a few videos....
I mean look at the difference, The X just runs away with the fastest CPU doesn't it?
What a trouncing....the wait..what?
No, they're about the same with each doing something a bit faster than the other.
Also, I'm no a list, your using some other person self admitted anecdote and I have the real device with an Exynos CPU which this thread is about, not snapdragon.
I didn't have issues with lag and slowing down.
I'm not lying about it, get over it and grow up.
Now can we get back on topic to the discussion about Samsung's new Exynos CPU and leave discussion about S7 edge's back in 2016/2017 where they belong?
yeah, check back in 1 year and see. LOL. Dude, Samsung phones are UNUSABLE after a few months unless you do factory reset.
BTW, the above video shows X closing some apps out of memory is a bug of iOS 11. (7+ with iOS 10 does not do that.). Unfortunately, iOS 11 has not been bug free.
Shall I find a video of Note 8 vs iPhone running IOS 10?
I've used most Samsung flagships since the S1.
Why would I do that if what you say were true?
What would any sane person do that?
It's simply not true. Dude.
Right, no more jibber jabber, back to the new Exynos....
There's nothing to talk about. Apple loyalists have become the joke of the industry trying to defend Apple's despicable practice of throttling. What a slimebag greedy company. Amazing you can even trust this company.
S8+ s. 7+ On iOS 10:
And this:
Which company to you trust?
Wow... and yet I've had my Note 8 for 4 months and it works as it did day one, other than the many additional apps I have continued to add. It is as smooth as any iPhone I've owned, great battery life, gorgeous display, and many functions that no iPhone has - SPen, split screen, Samsung Pay, ability to customize, etc..
So how exactly is it "UNUSABLE"? Maybe I'm holding it wrong.
I am happy that you’re happy with your Note 8. You’re still in honeymoon phase. Wait a little bit. History repeats itself. Samsung throughout Android land is (in)famous for slowing down, frame dropping, and stuttering with age.
As for your extra features, good for you...but for me, it misses on too many things.
But just for future reference for you...there is this helpful link: https://thedroidguy.com/2017/12/fix...-slow-month-use-troubleshooting-guide-1073877
“We have received complaints from our readers who own Galaxy S8+ units that reportedly started running so slow after just a few weeks of use.”
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You said a Samsung phone is "UNUSABLE" after several months. That is factually not true.