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Samsung Announces Galaxy S6, Galaxy S6 Edge and Samsung Pay

skratch77 said:
Pretty sure they mentioned welcome to 2012 from hardware specs.

The gs6 is the only phone using 8 cores and 14nm finfet.they are a full year ahead of every one now in hardware.
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That is EXACTLY what they meant. The internals of the iPhone have always been shameful compared to even some budget devices on the Android front.

*Battery technology has also CHANGED dramatically. (Also missing in the iPhone). You really don't need a removable, spare battery when you can change the phone in 20 minutes or less.

My nexus 6 can go from dead to 80% in 10 minutes. The Galaxy 6 is using this same tech.

Also.... SD cards are somewhat irrelevant now that phone storage is becoming standardized at 32GB for the entry level models, and ALMOST EVERY OTHER COMPANY EXCEPT APPLE charges $50 or less to double the storage. So for $50 more, get 64 gigs. You don't need an SD....

Please don't confuse evolution in specs with going backwards. Also please do not confuse evolution in tech with taking away a feature.... when it's giving you a brand new feature that is far better.

I also can't really say Samsung copied the iPhone.... many people have posted pics of devices Samsung has had out that make the iPhone 6 look more like Apple lifted their design.... but wait.... at this point, there are only so many ways you can make a phone look. I think the rip off design machine days are over and a moot point. Unless you do some crazy thing like BB with the square phone, most phones look alike.

The only thing the really makes the iPhone stick out from other phones is it's unforgiving large forehead and chin, and the big ass home button, as well as the vomit of color in ios 7/8.
 
ArcaneDevice said:
Sure. We'll just ignore the vast majority of companies and corporations on the planet using Windows.

"Nobody" has a huge market share of the business world apparently.
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Nobody (or lets say only a small percentage) buys windows hardware because they like the platform.
When a company buys Windows laptop or pc they do because it's
1) cheaper
2) their software runs on it
3) they require specific windows-only software

When an individual buys a windows hardware they seek
1) value for money
2) want to play games
3) want value for money because they want to run linux
4) there are cheaper alternatives than buying a mac
 
Samsung's time of dominance is over. They make great hardware, but the software isn't so good. They got lucky during the era when they created the big phones (basically by trying everything possible until something stuck). Unfortunately for them, Apple now has big phones and a cohesive lineup.

By the way, I have no problem with people "copying". For the next iPhone, I hope Apple copies some way to instantly start the camera on their phones. I'd also like to enable power-save mode for when the battery is nearly dead.

I also hope Samsung recovers somewhat. Besides Apple, I'd trust their hardware over any of the others. I own a Samsung SSD (in a MacBook Pro), a Samsung TV, and a Samsung washing machine. They all work great, although of course the UI is lacking.
 
holydude said:
Yes i did and did not like the experience.
But based on what you said your use case is different from mine. OnePlus with stock was "good enough" for you. I can't complain. But that does not mean other people feel the same
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Funny how you say that to me but not yourself. You dont have a clue what most people think about this, so dont pretend.
 
MacAddict1978 said:
That is EXACTLY what they meant. The internals of the iPhone have always been shameful compared to even some budget devices on the Android front.

*Battery technology has also CHANGED dramatically. (Also missing in the iPhone). You really don't need a removable, spare battery when you can change the phone in 20 minutes or less.

My nexus 6 can go from dead to 80% in 10 minutes. The Galaxy 6 is using this same tech.

Also.... SD cards are somewhat irrelevant now that phone storage is becoming standardized at 32GB for the entry level models, and ALMOST EVERY OTHER COMPANY EXCEPT APPLE charges $50 or less to double the storage. So for $50 more, get 64 gigs. You don't need an SD....

Please don't confuse evolution in specs with going backwards. Also please do not confuse evolution in tech with taking away a feature.... when it's giving you a brand new feature that is far better.

I also can't really say Samsung copied the iPhone.... many people have posted pics of devices Samsung has had out that make the iPhone 6 look more like Apple lifted their design.... but wait.... at this point, there are only so many ways you can make a phone look. I think the rip off design machine days are over and a moot point. Unless you do some crazy thing like BB with the square phone, most phones look alike.

The only thing the really makes the iPhone stick out from other phones is it's unforgiving large forehead and chin, and the big ass home button, as well as the vomit of color in ios 7/8.
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OK, I have to cut off before you say too many things that are pure total fabulation. Here's a review of the NExus 6 battery life at Anandtech.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review/2

It charges pretty quick, but nearly 2h for (0-100%) is not 10 minutes...
And as for battery life... It is woeful even compared to other Android devices, let alone the Iphone 6. Maybe that's why it needs to charge faster...

So, why should I even read the rest of your rant?
 
holydude said:
Nobody (or lets say only a small percentage) buys windows hardware because they like the platform.
When a company buys Windows laptop or pc they do because it's
1) cheaper
2) their software runs on it
3) they require specific windows-only software
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Total and utter BS. Windows in a lot of ways is vastly better then Any unix flavor or OSX .
 
holydude said:
Even if many do the fact is that android is not attractive for commercial developers. That platform is just not as much profitable as iOS.
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“[Google Play has an] ARPDAU near parity [with iOS], plus we have a bigger DAU from the bigger Android platform,” said Nutt. “This means we’re seeing more revenue coming from Android than iOS — again, that’s not what we were expecting. We couldn’t be happier.”
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http://venturebeat.com/2014/07/10/a...to-be-closing-claims-racing-rivals-developer/
 
k995 said:
Funny how you say that to me but not yourself. You dont have a clue what most people think about this, so dont pretend.
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I have not said otherwise. If i would know what most of the people think somebody would hire me instantly :p

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k995 said:
Total and utter BS. Windows in a lot of ways is vastly better then Any unix flavor or OSX .
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And you are going to support this opinion how ?
 
Samsung announcements bring out the worst in this forum.

Credit where it's due, ignore the crappy presentation (it was cringeworthy), they've managed to come out with a compelling device.

The Edge in particular looks great, and I don't seem to remember glass backs being an issue when Apple did it.

If Samsung can deliver on the performance aspects, particularly battery life and camera then they've knocked it out of the park.

Samsung Pay is a lazy name, but if it works as demonstrated then it's a solid alternative to Apple Pay.
 
Keirasplace said:
OK, I have to cut off before you say too many things that are pure total fabulation. Here's a review of the NExus 6 battery life at Anandtech.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review/2

It charges pretty quick, but nearly 2h for (0-100%) is not 10 minutes...
And as for battery life... It is woeful even compared to other Android devices, let alone the Iphone 6. Maybe that's why it needs to charge faster...

So, why should I even read the rest of your rant?
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Android fans/Astroturfers usually lie a lot on their 'arguements'.

Remember, they ARE the product.
 
k995 said:
oh BS, google paid out 7 billion , apple 10 . Oh yes 10 is more but who will ignore a 7 billion market?

http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2015/2/26/app-store-revenue-and-selling-to-the-world
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You are comparing apples to oranges. How many android devices are out there ? and how many apple devices ?
Now do the math. Apple with far less devices is much more profitable than android and is much more pleasant to develop for and have to support only certain set of resolutions and HW.
Go to sleep.
 
holydude said:
I have not said otherwise. If i would know what most of the people think somebody would hire me instantly :p
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'It has its fans (gamers)....and then there's nobody else. Android suffers from a lot of issues...even crippled iOS provides a better user experience than android with far more features.'

Sorry you pretended to talk for ALL android users.

Total BS of course .



And you are going to support this opinion how ?
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My own personal experience, what more do I need?
 
k995 said:
'It has its fans (gamers)....and then there's nobody else. Android suffers from a lot of issues...even crippled iOS provides a better user experience than android with far more features.'

Sorry you pretended to talk for ALL android users.

Total BS of course .





My own personal experience, what more do I need?
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Name 3 things that Windows is much better at for you than any other NIX. Thanks.
 
skaeroastro said:
Yeah, I do realize that the A8X is for tablets, but it only has 1 billion more transistors and is clocked 100 MHz higher.

If you're referring to the transistor to core ratio ("fat cores"), I'd like to see some facts and sources comparing this ratio. The A8/A8X ratio is about 500 million/1 core. Tell me the ratio for the Samsung processor.

I don't see why Apple can't put 8 cores in their processors and still have fantastic battery life because all they would have to do is clock down the processor and shut down all but one core when the phone/tablet is sleeping or at the home screen or doing something that isn't battery intensive.

Which brings me back to hardware/software integration. With an in-house developed OS and processor, they can only guarantee that the OS will work seamlessly with the processor, which usually means better battery life and better performance and maybe even better user experience. See, if you go to Geekbench, the performance scales fairly well with the addition of more cores with Apple devices. However, with Samsung devices, multicore scaling does not work as well. Let's compare the S6 (according to your Geekbench reference) and iPhone 6. The S6 has a single/multicore score of 1520/5478. It has 8 cores. The iPhone 6 has a score of 1612/2885. Now, if it had a third core, using the A8X as a guideline, it would have a score of about 4300 at the A8's 1.4 GHz, which would mean the performance increases from 80 to 90% with each additional core. I can make this inference because the Apple processors are basically identical except that the A8X has an additional core and is only clocked 100 MHz higher. On the other hand, the S6 has a performance increase of about 45% per core.
Conclusion: in-house software developed for in-house hardware will always win. That's what makes an outstanding product, and that's how it works in the aerospace software/hardware industry.
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I'm not talking about actual size I'm talking about pipe line and architecture design.they are made to do a lot of work per clock cycle but hit a wall past 1.6ghz as they would burn up or run hot as hell and consume more power.

There is no optimization going on here.both cores are using arm v8 64 bit instruction code and the new exynos is made to clock up to 2.3ghz and fit in a cell phone thermal envelope.

You can't make an a8 into an 8 core.it would throttle and literally melt the phone.it would need a heat sink like the ones in a computer.

Apple will follow with more cores or might stick with 2 cores on a9 but use arms next instruction set and make another very power single thread core.

You can't have both! Rediculus single core and 8 of them lol.

Samsung is using 4 cores almost as strong as a8x but the whole package together does well.

Like the new laferrari it's got a v12 making 860hp but also an electric kers motor helping it hit 1000hp because gas emissions (power efficiency) is regulating them so they need the electric motor for the extra boost
 
holydude said:
You are comparing apples to oranges. How many android devices are out there ? and how many apple devices ?
Now do the math. Apple with far less devices is much more profitable than android and is much more pleasant to develop for and have to support only certain set of resolutions and HW.
Go to sleep.
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Who cares? You are actually saying LESS users is more atractive for a developer? LMAO

Oh please one day you will get over this apple love thing you have and laugh with yourself. Until then, do think twice before posting things like this.
 
k995 said:
Who cares? You are actually saying LESS users is more atractive for a developer? LMAO

Oh please one day you will get over this apple love thing you have and laugh with yourself. Until then, do think twice before posting things like this.
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Yes less users who are willing to pay is better than more users who are not.
 
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