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This is such blatant copying of the industrial design and "Samsung Pay" as well that Apple should file immediate global lawsuits. :apple:
 
My god... I don't even know where to start. They DO finally look better. Dare I say they look like real phones that compete with already established brands on the market? Yes, I dare, because they copied a certain already established brand. The fact that they took away features that they used to think put them over Apple in order to blatantly rip them off is just adorable. And I'm barely a fan of Apple...

And Samsung Pay. Just... wow. They're not even trying anymore; an embarrassment to the entire Android platform.
 
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Looks like a great phone. Both look nice and the specs are great. HTC, LG and Motorola have some serious competition to deal with. I wonder if those companies can afford to make a comparable product again this year? Didn't they all lose money in 2014 on their handsets?
 
My god... I don't even know where to start. They DO finally look better. Dare I say they look like real phones that compete with already established brands on the market? Yes, I dare, because they copied a certain already established brand. The fact that they took away features that they used to think put them over Apple in order to blatantly rip them off is just adorable. And I'm barely a fan of Apple...

And Samsung Pay. Just... wow. They're not even trying anymore; an embarrassment to the entire Android platform.

But apple copied the Samsung galaxy nexus (first phone on the planet )to have nfc and mobile payment.who gives a crap what you name it.Samsung had nfc mobile payments first.well it was actually the first cell to do it so who copied who?

Like I'm serious right now.you do know Samsung was the first on this very planet to use nfc mobile payments on there galaxy nexus right?

I just took a picture of my galaxy nexus that I got in 2011 that uses nfc and I clearly remember using Google wallet 3 years ago buying a pair of sneakers at my local mall before the iPhone even had lte 4G
 

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Name 3 things that Windows is much better at for you than any other NIX. Thanks.

Throwing *Nix out there makes things very complex, no? Linux on the desktop has <1% global marketshare. That means the only "usable" *Nix for consumers is Mac OS X. I admit I use Windows over OS X because I have a familiarity with the keyboard shortcuts and I consider the windowing system to be more user-friendly. I suspect millions of others feel the same way. Windows 10 is bringing many OS X/Linux features like:

* virtual desktops
* package manager
* Task View which is Expose-like

and even ones that doesn't exist on any other desktop OS:

* digital assistant(Cortana).
* universal apps
* Project Spartan browser
* Continuum

we'll see if MS can deliver on the promise of all this later in the fall.
 
Yes less users who are willing to pay is better than more users who are not.

Again android has comparable revenue then ios and then you are forgetting ad income which is about 40 billion this year.

For developers android is just as interesting, it shows in the number of developers (android has more) and it gets more apps released .

But do please think all those got it wrong .
 
I guess they figured it was better than S Pay.

Not that it matters. :apple: Pay is already becoming the defacto standard in retail. S-Pay or whatever will never be something retail integrates with except in South Korea.
 
Again android has comparable revenue then ios and then you are forgetting ad income which is about 40 billion this year.

For developers android is just as interesting, it shows in the number of developers (android has more) and it gets more apps released .

But do please think all those got it wrong .

Where did you get $40 billion net income for ad revenue? Google & Facebook make the bulk of it and the total might be $12 billion/year including iAd for Apple.

The fact is the real mega-profits are still in 4 areas:

* premium hardware(iStuff, Surface Pro 3, Galaxy Sx)
* commercial software licensing(MS servers, Oracle DBs, IBM stuff, VMWare)
* Online ads(mainly Adwords & Adsense and Facebook ads)
* desktop processors from Intel

that's it.
 
My god... I don't even know where to start. They DO finally look better. Dare I say they look like real phones that compete with already established brands on the market? Yes, I dare, because they copied a certain already established brand. The fact that they took away features that they used to think put them over Apple in order to blatantly rip them off is just adorable. And I'm barely a fan of Apple...

And Samsung Pay. Just... wow. They're not even trying anymore; an embarrassment to the entire Android platform.

exactly
 
I'm not talking about actual size I'm talking about pipe line and architecture design.they are made to do a lot of work per clock cycle but hit a wall past 1.6ghz as they would burn up or run hot as hell and consume more power.

There is no optimization going on here.both cores are using arm v8 64 bit instruction code and the new exynos is made to clock up to 2.3ghz and fit in a cell phone thermal envelope.

You can't make an a8 into an 8 core.it would throttle and literally melt the phone.it would need a heat sink like the ones in a computer.

Apple will follow with more cores or might stick with 2 cores on a9 but use arms next instruction set and make another very power single thread core.

You can't have both! Rediculus single core and 8 of them lol.

Samsung is using 4 cores almost as strong as a8x but the whole package together does well.

Like the new laferrari it's got a v12 making 860hp but also an electric kers motor helping it hit 1000hp because gas emissions (power efficiency) is regulating them so they need the electric motor for the extra boost

Or man, serious. Off course, Apple will sit on its ass for an entire year and let Samsung do whatever... I'm going to save this post for when the A9 on 14nm (yes, made in Samsung fabs, come out).

That will be amusing.

Considering that currently the A8 barely throttles at all, stays cool too, and all other chips throttle like mad; I think your characterization of the A8's thermals are really out of left field. On a new process, with a slightly higher clock speed and some optimisation (there quite a few still to be done), A9 will do just fine without 8 or 16 cores...

Or could give even more space to the massive cache or the very big power VR GPU coming... Whatever works... Well, you get the drift.
 
Where did you get $40 billion net income for ad revenue? Google & Facebook make the bulk of it and the total might be $12 billion/year including iAd for Apple.
http://www.emarketer.com/Article/Driven-by-Facebook-Google-Mobile-Ad-Market-Soars-10537-2013/1010690

2013 it was 18 billion worldwide, and iad was a failure doesnt show up anywhere as any significant source.


The fact is the real mega-profits are still in 4 areas:

* premium hardware(iStuff, Surface Pro 3, Galaxy Sx)
* commercial software licensing(MS servers, Oracle DBs, IBM stuff, VMWare)
* Online ads(mainly Adwords & Adsense and Facebook ads)
* desktop processors from Intel

that's it.

So you just ignore a 40billion market (one that will double before 5 years) to persue already crowded well entrenched ones?

Why do you think google made android and apple launched iad?
 
The first Samsung phone I could actually see myself buying. Well done!

Because it looks like a copy of iPhone 6? Why just not getting iPhone, it's a much better phone. :rolleyes:

On another news, I don't expect there would be Bendgate? Or people don't care because it's not iPhone.
 
I only got thru like 5 pages of comments so I don't know if this was touched on, but I saw a lot of people preaching about how Loop... sorry, "Samsung Pay" (srsly?) works with more retailer hardware. On paper that's true, there's just one problem: call me when it actually FUNCTIONS properly on more than 15% of attempts.
 
Apple Pay (and Google Wallet) currently work in far less stores in the US than LoopPay (aka Samsung Pay).

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Interestingly, Mastercard teamed up with Samsung Pay to enable tokenized transactions even from the magnetic side of things.

Time will tell whether it was the right horse to bet on. Magnetic stripes are obsolete in pretty much every country except the US and even there it is phased out. Visa will stop offering fraud protection to merchants and proprietors of ATMs this year, while MasterCard will follow next year (I think they did this for Maestro already). The only reason why Samsung would do this is to hope for quicker initial adoption of Samsung Pay and a smooth transition to NFC.

Apple would have never implemented technology with such prospects.
 
Or man, serious. Off course, Apple will sit on its ass for an entire year and let Samsung do whatever... I'm going to save this post for when the A9 on 14nm (yes, made in Samsung fabs, come out).

That will be amusing.

Considering that currently the A8 barely throttles at all, stays cool too, and all other chips throttle like mad; I think your characterization of the A8's thermals are really out of left field. On a new process, with a slightly higher clock speed and some optimisation (there quite a few still to be done), A9 will do just fine without 8 or 16 cores...

Or could give even more space to the massive cache or the very big power VR GPU coming... Whatever works... Well, you get the drift.

I just said the a9 will use arms next instruction set witch is,said to have 30-40% more clock for clock then a57 found in the new galaxy.

do you even know what apples cores are based off of?

And no a9 will not just do fine staying dual core as Samsung and Qualcomm will also follow apple and use the next hen instruction set but stay using big little the way those cores were designed to run.

The exynos 7 does not throttle at all and is beating out a8x. Do you think the iPhone 6s is going to beat out the iPad air 2? and exynos 7 without going 3 or 4 core?
 
Considering that currently the A8 barely throttles at all, stays cool too, and all other chips throttle like mad; I think your characterization of the A8's thermals are really out of left field. On a new process, with a slightly higher clock speed and some optimisation (there quite a few still to be done), A9 will do just fine without 8 or 16 cores...
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/09/iphone-6-and-6-plus-in-deep-with-apples-thinnest-phones/3/

A8 does throttle in the A6 a lot less in the A6 plus.

And not a lot of different then recent other SOC's .
 
But apple copied the Samsung galaxy nexus (first phone on the planet )to have nfc and mobile payment.who gives a crap what you name it.Samsung had nfc mobile payments first.well it was actually the first cell to do it so who copied who?

Like I'm serious right now.you do know Samsung was the first on this very planet to use nfc mobile payments on there galaxy nexus right?
You realize that it doesn't matter who copied who first, but who is transforming a technology to market maturity and the mass market? That's usually Apple and not Samsung. Apple is not inventing the world, but they are probably the best in the IT-industry in just that. Apple is leading, the others are following.
It's "great" that Samsung/Android phones had the technology implemented already a few years ago, but what does this matter? They all didn't really know what to do with it until Apple came up with Apple Pay. And suddenly the market is moving... And while Samsung at least could have come up with a more unique name, they just change the Apple in Apple Pay into Samsung. That's really worthy of applause!
 
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Throwing *Nix out there makes things very complex, no? Linux on the desktop has <1% global marketshare. That means the only "usable" *Nix for consumers is Mac OS X. I admit I use Windows over OS X because I have a familiarity with the keyboard shortcuts and I consider the windowing system to be more user-friendly. I suspect millions of others feel the same way. Windows 10 is bringing many OS X/Linux features like:

* virtual desktops
* package manager
* Task View which is Expose-like

and even ones that doesn't exist on any other desktop OS:

* digital assistant(Cortana).
* universal apps
* Project Spartan browser
* Continuum

we'll see if MS can deliver on the promise of all this later in the fall.

Don't get me wrong but I'm actually excited for Windows 10 coming out. However, your list of "doesn't exist on any other desktop OS" with Continuum? You do realize that Continuum isn't really any different than Continuity/Hand-Off in OS X right?
 
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