Is this the first time Samsung has designed and used its own processor in a smartphone? I'm curious how much advantage they've had by being able to get an inside-look at Apple's processor designs. Cutting out Samsung as a parts supplier would seem to be the biggest competitive impetus Cook should have right now. It makes no sense to have your closest direct competitor in the phone segment making your chips.
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Samsung Announces Galaxy S6, Galaxy S6 Edge and Samsung Pay
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So, I haven't read every single comment on this article since it is kind of blowing up a bit but I'm seeing a lot of Samsung copied Apple. True, it is obvious they are in many ways but they ARE doing something (well, bought) something that stands out and it COULD be a reason for some competition in this market.
Samsung bought LoopPay a company behind the magnetic transmission technology. Meaning, you don't need NFC to make a mobile transaction. They can now do mobile payments by sticking their phone close to the magnetic swipe and it'll make the transaction.
This makes it so you can do a mobile payment with almost everyone not just those that have upgraded to using NFC (or only have NFC turned on).
The catch with this is that I was under the impression that magnetic swipes are on their way out the door in the next few years. So it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Samsung bought LoopPay a company behind the magnetic transmission technology. Meaning, you don't need NFC to make a mobile transaction. They can now do mobile payments by sticking their phone close to the magnetic swipe and it'll make the transaction.
This makes it so you can do a mobile payment with almost everyone not just those that have upgraded to using NFC (or only have NFC turned on).
The catch with this is that I was under the impression that magnetic swipes are on their way out the door in the next few years. So it'll be interesting to see what happens.
But...but...but all I have been told by everyone is that expandable storage and removable battery is a MUST. Apple is laughable for not having that.
Samsung Pay, really?
Do they even try?
I almost want to sell my Note 4 just to get as far away from Samsung now. They can't even try to back this one up after making all those commercials making fun of Apple and their fans, and then making this and it goes against A LOT of those commercials.
Safely mount off your high horse before getting thrown off. Seriously, if you can't even see what the reality is, let me tell you:
- Built in wireless charging
- 3GB DDR4 RAM
- Minimum 32GB storage.
- Much improved camera (we shall see by how much)
- Industry leading 14nm 8 core processor.
- incredibly quick charging
- 2k Amoled screen
If you can't even remotely see the innovation here, because your so bent on hating, then please go ahead and sell your Note 4 if it makes you feel better.
Androids version works in way more places then apple pay.
Gap, Old Navy, 7-Eleven, Kohls, Lowes, Dunkin' Donuts, Sam's Club, Sears, Kmart, Bed, Bath & Beyond, Banana Republic, Stop & Shop, and Wendy's best buy and Walmart all don't support apple pay but using Samsung pay with tokenized magnetic strip will work at these places.
You serious? Samsung and arm,you know the people apple licensed the design for there cpus worked together making big little and that started years ago.
They also have been using exynos(there cpus)since the first galaxy phones.
ApplePay doesn't have to be supported in order for iPhone users to use NFC. I use NFC on my phone in every place that supports NFC payments. Many of which don't have Apple Pay.
In other words, I've used my iPhone 6 to make mobile payments with 7-Eleven, Dunkin' Donuts, Sam's Club, and Wendy's recently.
I go to dunkin every day and apple pay won't do cap there.you people are saying apple is the reason nfc took off when it don't work in half the places Samsung nfc works at
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Ding ding ding all those places had nfc installed and working before apple had nfc or apple pay
It's because of Samsung pushing nfc almost 4 years ago that you have those terminals now and the new Samsung pay will let your phone be used at mom and pop shops that have older magnetic strip machines and will be encrypted and safe with finger print and token.
Samsungs way is a million times better then apple pay
Exactly, not saying Apple is the cause of them supporting NFC. Just many people seem to think that ApplePay must be supported in order for iPhone users to use their mobile payments. We're not really as limited as some think.
In my town, I only have to pull out my wallet for my credit card at Best Buy as they are the only place I've found so far that don't support (actually they do but it is turned off here) NFC. More than half the places I use my iPhone for mobile payments don't even support ApplePay but it doesn't stop me from using my iPhone.
I think we're in agreement just looking from different points of views lol
Wireless charging isn't new.
3GB will be needed for a decent touchwiz experience.
32GB. Wow, such innovation.
Improved camera TBD.
Processor won't compete with Apple's and you know it, nothing does in the mobile space.
Wow fast charging? Really?
2K screen is like bragging about megapixels. You don't need that much in a mobile device. Dumb.
The amount of shameless copying by Samsung is so utterly pathetic. Will be funny when they lose in court. Again. It's just a shame suckers like you buy Samsung garbage. If you have any respect for design and innovation, you certainly wouldn't support them.
The gist of this forum thinks that all of a,sudden apple comes out with nfc and in like 5 min it's the reason it took off and it's complete bull crap.
Nfc is where it is today because of SAMSUNG
And no doubt they have to be able to do that.... Android requires it....
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I bigger problem with sales than they already have?
It's not about the very long term. It's about the present and near future.
It'll be years before magstripes disappear in the US, and in a lot of other places around the world.
In the meantime, Samsung Pay reportedly works with both NFC and mag swipe terminals automatically. It acts like Apple Pay / Google Wallet where there's an NFC terminal, and like a tokenized magnetic card otherwise.
For the next few years, that makes Samsung Pay the most universal contactless payment method on the planet.
(As long as US carriers don't try to block the NFC side like they did with Google Wallet.)
Which is not a good thing for their customers, who will be limited for a long time both by which places take NFC, and by which banks are willing (and able) to pay the Apple purchase ransom.
It's funny when apple wins benchmarks you guys go crazy and blab about it and then when android comes out and whoops it's as you go back to well it needs it cause it's android and it's just specs etc and big deal is runs fine and is optimized but the second apple has a faster cpu you guys are the first to brag about it.
Well guess what? Samsung at the moment has the fastest soc out and it's even faster the tablet socks like the k1 and a8x
Let's not forget that half the storage will be taken up by touchwiz.
Apple's SoC hasn't been whooped in a long time. They trade blows every gen sure. Apple's SoC is more advance than what Samsung, Qualcomm, and Nvidia is producing. What the benchmarks don't show you is that their chips thermal throttle.
The A8 can sustain its performance over long periods. It's a beast.
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I think the only reason most people have the notion that Apple has had a major impact is that once Apple introduced NFC in their devices mobile payments have increased drastically.
Sure, they were not the first to use NFC as we all know Android devices have had it and Google Wallet has been around for years. As you stated, Samsung being the first manufacturer (I don't really know the facts on that but I'll trust what you are saying). However, there is something to say when Apple comes late into the game with mobile payments and end making a bigger impact than the companies first behind it.
We see this with the mobile payment numbers coming out but also with the craziness with CurrentC. Gotta ask, why was it, despite that Android phones have had NFC for years prior, that ONLY when Apple introduces NFC into their phones does this company, CurrentC, attempt to block NFC payments by threatening contract breaking terms with retail companies offering NFC payment methods?
You keep saying this but all the sources I've read say it's 0-50% in 30 minutes. Any links?
You forgot networking gear. Cisco makes better margins (60%) than all of the above except maybe high-end SW. That's a $50B market, too.
No, they have been designing chips for a while. However, the current design is based on a stock ARM design, as is the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810. Apple uses a custom design.
My guess is that Apple is a lot less worried about Samsung now than it was in 2012. The Galaxy S6 is a nice phone, to be sure, but it's not the only nice Android phone out there anymore. 2014 was an eye-opener for the market.
There is no innovation. There is evolution (except maybe for the quick charging, that one could be innovative if it doesn't affect long term the battery). Maybe stop quoting Samsung's marketing material next time.
Even Apple has very few innovation in the last 10 years; popularizing biometrics to the masses was their last one (previous implementations were poor), the 64 bit A7 processor was another one. The 5S was their most innovative phone since the initial Iphone of 2007.
As for the rest:
You realize this phone is released 6 months AFTER the Iphone. If it hadn't a bit better specs, well then that would be an epic failure by them. But, the S5 also had better specs than the 5S and look were that got them.
So, 3G... And? 2G mem Android phones right now have a bigger latency (you know, the stat you care about for user experience) than the Iphone. Does that fix that?
The A8 already beats 8 cores CPU's right now and the A9 will also get the 14nm when it comes out... A 12 year old desktop with 2 cores also beat that 8 core. Why mention those cores at all?
As for the camera... Has Samsung reinvented physics? If not, this will be incremental upgrade like all that came before and it may be slightly better camera than the 6+.
Unless 2K screen doesn't degrade user experience, and actually produce a noticeably better user experience, unlike in the LG G3... Why should I care.
Even on black on white paper, resolution past 500PPI are quasi useless, on a phone with a lot worse contrast than that printed page (no contest), its plainly a marketing bulletpoint.
You are really in love with specs aren't you. But, how does that phone actually work day to day? Is it much better than the S4, let alone the Iphone 6.
It's coming out 6 months after the A8, and relies on brute force since it is using a stock ARM design. My guess is that Apple's A9 will be fabbed on the same 14nm FinFET process and reclaim the lead.
Samsung is saying only that it is 20% faster than the chip in the S5. That pegs it slightly faster than the A8.
