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I have no idea what their design meetings must be like. I bet they literally sit there and look at all the things Apple have done, rage with jealousy and then think of all the ways to best copy them. I'm liking the somewhat original design of this new phone, but blatant copying of Apple Pay? Unbelievable. I wouldn't trust Samsung with my card details and neither should you. They'll happily share them with third parties.
 
In Indonesia, Magnetic card function is already been disabled for years.

Probably they will enabled magnetic card again after samsung release this phone.

Anyway, the camera seems nice and got wireless charging built in. Might change my iphone 6+ to 6 edge. The only main problem is Handsoff (redirect call to other apple device), the function I frequently use, and the OS is Android, not iOS.

All my android device tends to noticeably slow down over time even without upgrade, unless you reformat it. iOS tends to slow down when you upgrade it (iPhone 4 on ios 7)
 
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I'd like some of this NFC payment tech to make its way to Britain, please. (and not contactless cards, something a bit more safe!).
 
I assume the strip is for fallback purposes for older machines. I'm honestly not sure.

Last year, the chip failed on my (UK) card, and the cashier was advised to swipe it by his till. We both commented how that was the first time we'd done it that way in years. I wondered if I could insist on using a swipe transaction? I'm guessing not unless the chip has registered as a fail.
 
Wow they're not cheap with the RAM, 3GB is a lot especially when you think that Apple is shipping it's iPhone 6/6+ with 1GB, yes you need more than 1GB for a smoother experience stop fooling yourself. I think the S6 is a decent phone and sports a lot of great specs, i'm a fan of the design approach i also like Android so i have no problem with the OS being a Google product nor suffer from Samsuphobia. I'm definitely considering getting one.
 
(snip) Seems that this article think this is merely a kludgy stopgap to fill a big feature hole

That's repeating the obvious. Of course the LoopPay option is a stopgap to cover places in the world without NFC. That's the whole point and the great advantage of it.

and Samsung will replace this with something better by next year.

No need. Where there is NFC, Samsung Pay uses that instead.

Even my corner convenience store had it 5 years ago. So, not sure were those 17% of terminals are hiding...

I did not say terminals. I said non-chip transactions. In other words, according to the backers of chip&pin, there's still plenty of purchases being made the old way.

Samsung Wallet might have been a better choice, given that Samsung wants you to use their payment system over the default payment system on Android (Google Wallet).

Yeah, except the problem is that Samsung already used "Samsung Wallet" a couple of years ago for their Passbook type app.

Besides, there's nothing wrong with using "Pay" to describe a payment method. Otherwise Apple should have avoided the word because PayPal already used it.

The backward compatibility with magnetic stripe systems is legitimately useful, at least for now. That said, there must be a reason BOTH Google AND Apple passed on the opportunity to buy LoopPay. My guess is that the card issuers really want to give retailers an incentive to upgrade to new payment systems rather than keep their old systems around for any longer.

Card issuers want people to spend money. Anything that allows quicker and easier payments is a plus to banks.

That's why they support NFC. And it's why MasterCard supports LoopPay with tokens, and we'll soon see if others do so as well.

Umm. There's something else that might be going on. Reportedly Samsung met with PayPal a few days ago. They've worked together in the past, and of course we all know that Apple dissed PayPal in Apple Pay because of that. (Talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.) I'd not be surprised if we see a Paypal - Samsung Pay hookup.

I think the Galaxy S6 will sell well, and it represents the phone that the S5 should have been. I do wonder whether it is a day late and a dollar short.

I'm glad the so-so S5 reception gave them a kick in the pants. Their Note series are still tops, of course.

I'm just waiting for the end of this year, when they promised to bring out their first consumer folding phones. To me, such devices will be a game changer like no other.

Regards.
 
Even less reason to switch now

I switched from an iPhone 4s to a Galaxy S4 Active a year before the iPhone 6 came out. The primary reason was for the display size. Since owning the S4 Active I've learned I really like having an: IR Blaster, removable battery, and SDXC Card Slot.

So the distinguishing characteristics now seem to be IR Blaster, Edge Display (not sold on that), and wireless charging. Ok.. I like the IR Blaster and wireless charging. That might be enough to keep me on a Samsung, but I bet Apple will address that soon enough.
 
That funny how all you are talking about the iphone . But iphone is still way behind . Come one iphone still using 1g of ram and a dual core and low pixal camera's . Really . And that article is wrong both phone come with micro card slots. Samsung still have a 8 core processor 3g of ram and a really good camera. Iphone still sucks and is still way behind. And to set the record straight Samsung help apple with there phones . Apple stole samsung ideas so get that straight people.
 
It's obvious that Apple is working on wireless charging...they filed enough patents regarding that but Samsung was like...yeah let's beat them to that and be first

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That funny how all you are talking about the iphone . But iphone is still way behind . Come one iphone still using 1g of ram and a dual core and low pixal camera's . Really . And that article is wrong both phone come with micro card slots. Samsung still have a 8 core processor 3g of ram and a really good camera. Iphone still sucks and is still way behind. And to set the record straight Samsung help apple with there phones . Apple stole samsung ideas so get that straight people.

You serious? Maybe 'cause iPhone doesn't need over-specced hardware to function. Ever thought of that or are you just running after numbers to feel good
 
Welcome back to 2012 Samsung. Seriously.

Ironic that when they were in their most successful period in the S2/3 days they had the most hardware differentiation from Apple, and now when they are failing at all fronts they are trying to be as Apple as possible. Because the average consumer looking for a high end phone is really going to buy a copycat Android device than simply buying the real fruit product. *sarcasm*
 
People should all be aware of your sarcasm. Btw you're being sarcastic, right?

of course. When I got my iphone 5s, its was twice as good as my iphone 5. Reality being, one could hardly notice any difference.
 
Honestly, when I heard for the first time that iPhone 6 and 6 plus had 1 GB memory, I wanted to burn all Apple products I have. But after I got the phone, I was almost flummoxed because of the performance, and not just me, all my friends who have been using iPhone 5 or 5s since they were launched.
Apparently engineering is all about doing more with less.
 
Obviously nothing is an innovation because its samsung right?

Built in wireless charging - Written off as crap but as soon as the iPhone has it there will be hosannas about tim cook being sung in the street

14nm - Since A8 is 20 nm - of course this means nothing as well because its samsung.

This entire thread is full of epic fail.

I didn't say the list was not innovative because Samsung made it, and if Apple added something like wireless charging to the iPhone it wouldn't be innovative either. The only epic fail posts are those like yours which put words in the mouths of others to help promote your Apple fanboy agenda.

Reminds me a bit of the Blackberry Storm with its clickable touchscreen. Sounds neat, but in practice it was a bit of a pain.

Consider which you think is easier to always get right: pushing harder to bring up a context menu, or the current method of a long press.

A long press is easy to define. It's time based. Pressure press is more difficult to define universally. I know some people who jab hard at their screen all the time, for example.

OTOH, it should help people trying to use an inactive stick stylus on an Apple device to paint. (Whereas on some competing devices, there's a Wacom digitizer built-in and pressure sensitive active styluses.)

You're right it does remind me of that device too, and I see your point about the time delay method we use now, but this could become a natural gesture like pinch to zoom was 8 years ago.
 
They both look great phones, but Samsung really need need to design their own phone and not take cues from Apple all the time.

If anyone is looking to buy an Android phone, then these are the two to choose from.
 
Obviously nothing is an innovation because its samsung right?

Built in wireless charging - Written off as crap but as soon as the iPhone has it there will be hosannas about tim cook being sung in the street

14nm - Since A8 is 20 nm - of course this means nothing as well because its samsung.

This entire thread is full of epic fail.

I didn't say the list was not innovative because Samsung made it, and if Apple added something like wireless charging to the iPhone it wouldn't be innovative either. The only epic fail posts are those like yours which put words in the mouths of others to help promote your Apple fanboy agenda.

Reminds me a bit of the Blackberry Storm with its clickable touchscreen. Sounds neat, but in practice it was a bit of a pain.

Consider which you think is easier to always get right: pushing harder to bring up a context menu, or the current method of a long press.

A long press is easy to define. It's time based. Pressure press is more difficult to define universally. I know some people who jab hard at their screen all the time, for example.

OTOH, it should help people trying to use an inactive stick stylus on an Apple device to paint. (Whereas on some competing devices, there's a Wacom digitizer built-in and pressure sensitive active styluses.)

You're right it does remind me of that device too, and I see your point about the time delay method we use now, but this could become a natural gesture like pinch to zoom was 8 years ago.
 
Whilst the name is the same, Samsung Pay formely loop pay will be accepted at nearly all the terminals regardless of NFC capability

The fact they can do Tokenised secure transaction using magnetic field instead of NFC which tricks magnetic swipe readers in believing a card was present is a far better solution right now.

So in this case whilst apple pay will make millions for apple, on this instance it looks like Appled rushed out the gate first whilst Samsung through the buy out of Looppay have provided a far better solution for the short term

The only winner here is the customer

Expect the credit card thieves to make this their go-to device. Now they won't even have to bother cloning the cards onto plastic.
 
They both look great phones, but Samsung really need need to design their own phone and not take cues from Apple all the time.

If anyone is looking to buy an Android phone, then these are the two to choose from.

Honestly, are fellow Apple product owners that insecure? Apple make great products (and the occasional poor one) but they didn't invent the world and everything in it.

Most smartphone designs are pretty derivative now, Apple included. The iPhone 6 is hardly an original design as much as Apple PR would want you to believe. The reality is that unlike the early days of the iPhone most manufacturer's are taking design cues from each other now.

Biggest problem with the s6 is the price, I don't know how that'll be reflected on contract but it's going to be at the very top end.
 
That funny how all you are talking about the iphone . But iphone is still way behind . Come one iphone still using 1g of ram and a dual core and low pixal camera's . Really . And that article is wrong both phone come with micro card slots. Samsung still have a 8 core processor 3g of ram and a really good camera. Iphone still sucks and is still way behind. And to set the record straight Samsung help apple with there phones . Apple stole samsung ideas so get that straight people.

You forgot to add the sarcasm disclaimer to the end of your post.
 
The iPhone 6 has a glass back? :eek:

No but the 4 and 4S did. 5/5S too to a smaller extent.

Not to rain on the joke parade, but you guys do realize that Android phones with NFC had a mobile pay option way before Apple introduced it, right?

Mobile payments in the current iteration (NFC + Fingerprint authentication) is not a Google wallet invention. Contactless payment in Japan/Europe also uses NFC and predates Google wallet if we're being pedantic.
 
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