Samsung Announces Galaxy S6, Galaxy S6 Edge and Samsung Pay

[wct097]

I'm disappointed. I was holding out on replacing my S3 until the S6 arrived, but now I'm not sure I want the S6. Sure, it's a great "looking" phone, but now it's missing all of the features that I really liked in the S3. SD card, removable battery, etc.

Those two features alone keep me from ever considering an Apple device, and pretty much have me convinced that I don't want the S6 either.

The SD card is important for a variety of reasons.

First and foremost, with an SD card, I don't have to spring for the extra cost of the 64 and 128gb phones when I buy. $100-200 extra for that storage is unreasonable when I can get a 64gb SD card for something like $30 or $45.

Second, when I change phones, I want to move my storage from one to the next without having to hook to a computer, rely on data usage to pull down from cloud storage, or wait for 20 mins while things copy.

Third, if something happens to my phone.... a dunk in the sink, beer spilled on it, screen destroyed, etc, I don't have to do anything fancy to get my data off of it.... I just grab the SD and swap it into the next phone.

I use the replaceable battery on my S3 a lot. They're cheap and easy to swap. I think I have 5 or 6 of them on chargers or in my laptop bag. The only time I ever plug my phone in is when I go to bed at night. Going out of town? Toss batteries in my bag. On a long flight and want to play games/read/watch videos the whole time? Swap batteries in flight. Going to the UK for a long week and don't have an extra adapter? Spare batteries for the win! At $5 per pop on Amazon for my current phone, it's really hard to let go of that feature.

 

[BigInDallas]

I love how the biggest Samsung bashers all joined within the last year or so.

Why is this posted on Macrumors? Its a Samsung phone.

 

[Stayfly2407]

Samsung Pay..

 

[sulpfiction]

Wow...I can't believe it.

I don't know why it makes me so angry, but it does. It just aggrivates me! Not only is the design a blatent copy of the 6...And all the features they bragged about having (removeable battery, Expandable storage, etc) that iPhone didn't...And curves, and headphone jack, and speaker holes...But "samsung pay"??? Really? It has to be the worst thing Samsung has ever done in terms of copying. I am sure it's done on purpose for some reason. But if I was a decision maker at Samsung, "samsung pay" would have been wiped off the idea board 2 seconds after it was written just because if nothing else, it's completely unoriginal and embarrassing.

 

[aerok]

I don't know why it makes me so angry, but it does. It just aggrivates me! Not only is the design a blatent copy of the 6...And all the features they bragged about having (removeable battery, Expandable storage, etc) that iPhone didn't...And curves, and headphone jack, and speaker holes...But "samsung pay"??? Really? It has to be the worst thing Samsung has ever done in terms of copying. I am sure it's done on purpose for some reason. But if I was a decision maker at Samsung, "samsung pay" would have been wiped off the idea board 2 seconds after it was written just because if nothing else, it's completely unoriginal and embarrassing.

Breathes... it's just a phone.

 

[thering1975]

I do love coming here when Samsung releases a product or supplies parts for the iphone, knickers get so twisted, and memories become very short

Everyone bashing samsung because they stated they were different because of changable batteries, sd cards etc, so now they are copying because they have moved in the direction of apple and also the nexus line which has never had an sd card

Yet none of these people spouting such trash ever point out the following:

Steve Jobs - "no one's going to buy a big phone"
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/jobs-no-ones-going-to-buy-a-big-phone/

Apple refused NFC for years yet whilst other phones had it and generally usefull, introduced it in their last phones - u turn again anyone.

ALL companies do u turns, all companies copy, Apple hardly invents anything but then rarely do we see companies actually invent anything, they just reimagine and perfect. Yes some shout loud about their pluses, but both parties and google have ripped ideas of each other its called Business

The only winner here is the consumer, both on android and ios fences and for that we should be thankfull otherwise we would still be rocking our Nokias.

 

[TheWaveable]

Samsung pay appears to be a 3 step process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnYtWWDor2s

1. Swipe to launch the app.
2. Authenticate with finger at bottom of screen. (Not home button)
3. Move phone near card terminal to use LoopPay magnetic transmission.

Swiping an EMV credit card is faster and more secure.
Plus, not sure how reliable bottom of screen is for fingerprint sensor.

Time will tell.

Or just use the built in NFC in your credit card...

 

[thering1975]

Expect the credit card thieves to make this their go-to device. Now they won't even have to bother cloning the cards onto plastic.

Really, if mastercard have tokenised payments and "stolen data " is worthless, if visa follow suit then where the issue

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Or just use the built in NFC in your credit card...

Exactly,

I must of used tap to pay on my debit card about ten times ove the weekend, no app opening, no fingerprint reading, nothing, simplicity at its best

 

[JayIsAwesome]

I can't wait till the drop tests start showing up.

Meh, couldn't be any worse than the iPhone's drop tests or bend tests for that matter.

 

[thering1975]

Apple didn't rush anything, Apple pay is exactly what they wanted it to be and it's more than what samsung mobile payments can do. Apple pay isn't just about mobile payments, it's about in app and website payments too.

But whats the super special benefit for in-app payments, i mean i do an iap on android and its charged to google wallet, ive never seen applepay listed on any site but then im in the uk and its not available yet. and paypal takes me like 2 seconds to pay so again wheres the benefit there

 

[rmendol1]

The real reason to buy the new Samsung phone is if you want an Android phone that runs the latest OS. I have a few friends that have Android phones and it's laughable how long they have to wait to get the latest OS after it's been released. My friend with a Samsung S3 had to wait almost 2 years to get KitKat...pretty sure he doesn't have Lollipop...pathetic.

If you're going to bother to pay the money for a premium smartphone, you might as well buy an iPhone and actually get a premium experience. There are more apps, more accessories, more frequent OS updates, and the phone just works.

I would only buy an Android phone if I were dirt poor and even then I'd be tempted to buy a Windows Phone instead.

How dare someone like myself buy a Galaxy phone on an engineering salary... Seriously the comments on these forums...

Having more apps and accessories are only relevant if you intend to use them. Im guessing 95% of Android and iOS users have enough apps to satisfy their needs without having a need to switch platforms.

 

[JayIsAwesome]

I don't know why it makes me so angry, but it does. It just aggrivates me! Not only is the design a blatent copy of the 6...And all the features they bragged about having (removeable battery, Expandable storage, etc) that iPhone didn't...And curves, and headphone jack, and speaker holes...But "samsung pay"??? Really? It has to be the worst thing Samsung has ever done in terms of copying. I am sure it's done on purpose for some reason. But if I was a decision maker at Samsung, "samsung pay" would have been wiped off the idea board 2 seconds after it was written just because if nothing else, it's completely unoriginal and embarrassing.

It's just a phone dude. Why some of yall are so "ride or die" for Apple is beyond me. As if either company honestly gives a damn about us

 

[thering1975]

open your eyes (instead of copy pasting nonsense specs from samsung website) and you will see.
the specs you mentioned means nothing.
the arguments is about copying design and built of this device,which is clearly and obviously a copy of iPhone6.
or maybe you excpected their 2015 flagship model not having top of the line inside hardware specs? that's the norm,that's what a flagship model is made of,that doesn't change the fact it's a hopelessly un-original and shamelessly copied product.

Seriously?

Lets take a look at the main points if i were to go into a shop to buy a phone as a general consumer and they had placed a s6 edge next to an iphone 6 or +

The first thing i see will be the screen this covers the majority of the front of a phone. SO one has a higher proportion of screen to bezel ratio, the other doesent.

One has a curved edge screen to the flanking sides, the other doesent.

So from the front how have they copied? My eyes are open i suggest if you think they look the same you need glasses.

Lets look at the Back

One is clean shiny glass backed, the other is not. One has aerial marks due to poor design, the other does not, Do they look the same from the rear no? SO again how have they copied the design

Yes, headphone port has moved to the bottom which i never understand, otherwise i cant see how its a copy. They couldnt be further apart.

And let me point this out, i loved Samsung phones upto a year ago then they made them developer unfriendly, even more so now they use Exynos so i wouldnt buy another one,

But the way people on here get all upperty over a blooming phone is humorous.

Neither Apple nor Samsung invented anything, they just tweak copy tweak and thatsfrom all sides

 

[antbikerjl]

This is why Samsung chose to go all internal memory.

Androbench Storage Throughput (S6 vs S5)

Sequential Read 1.78x faster, 314.87 MB/s vs 176.5 MB/s
Sequential Write 5.75x faster, 139.08 MB/s vs 24.2 MB/s
Random Read 5.64x faster, 77.2 MB/s 13.7 MB/s
Random Write 11.06x faster, 19.8MB/s vs 1.79 MB/s

Wow...

 

[JayIsAwesome]

I know this is an Apple rumor site, but the fanboyism here is pretty disgusting sometimes. I've been on these forums for a long time, and something I've seen over and over again is people trash anything that comes out that isn't made by Apple. The moment Apple makes it, its the best thing ever.

Both phones are good looking devices with a ton of power packed into them. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm not a fan of touchwiz and I can't develop Google Play apps that I can test directly on a Samsung device (has to be a Nexus), I'd buy one. I can care less who copied who. It's like people here forgot that most Apple products that came on the scene weren't the first of their kind.

Nice job Samsung.

Great post, dude. Totally agreed #

 

[nia820]

I like how Apple fanboys here are calling foul for samsung copying Apple yet they said nothing when Apple added NFC, phablet sized phone, control center, 3rd party keyboards and the list goes on. They all copy from each other.

 

[840quadra]

I do love coming here when Samsung releases a product or supplies parts for the iphone, knickers get so twisted, and memories become very short

Everyone bashing samsung because they stated they were different because of changable batteries, sd cards etc, so now they are copying because they have moved in the direction of apple and also the nexus line which has never had an sd card

Yet none of these people spouting such trash ever point out the following:

Steve Jobs - "no one's going to buy a big phone"
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/jobs-no-ones-going-to-buy-a-big-phone/

This isn't the first, and I don't believe last, quotable line from Steve Jobs which stating something wasn't ever going to come from Apple, yet later it was put into production anyway.

Apple refused NFC for years yet whilst other phones had it and generally usefull, introduced it in their last phones - u turn again anyone.

I am sure that NFC was a conceit, as evidenced by it being completely locked down for use by anything outside of Apple Pay. I can imagine Apple was working hard to have Bluetooth LE incorporated into merchant terminals for Apple Pay, however merchants likely pushed back (for good reason), due to many of them having invested into terminals that feature the already popular NFC system.

ALL companies do u turns, all companies copy, Apple hardly invents anything but then rarely do we see companies actually invent anything, they just reimagine and perfect. Yes some shout loud about their pluses, but both parties and google have ripped ideas of each other its called Business

The Cell phone arena is starting to look a lot like the Automotive market. Car manufacturers incorporate features their competition all the time. Sure in some ways it is copying, but also moving forward with the times.

If This wasn't the case, we would all need to be driving an S-Class Mercedes to have a car equipped with ABS, Seat belts, Airbags, Adaptive cruise control, etc..

The only winner here is the consumer, both on android and ios fences and for that we should be thankfull otherwise we would still be rocking our Nokias.

Agreed! Though I did like my old Nokia phones

I like how Apple fanboys here are calling foul for samsung copying Apple yet they said nothing when Apple added NFC, phablet sized phone, control center, 3rd party keyboards and the list goes on. They all copy from each other.

FWIW, many of the features you mention were in early jailbreaks of Apple iPhone OS, with some being in the Cydia store before Android was mainstream. This doesn't mean that Apple invented them, it just means that someone else thought of those features before Android or iOS incorporated them natively.

 

[The Economist]

I do love coming here when Samsung releases a product or supplies parts for the iphone, knickers get so twisted, and memories become very short

Everyone bashing samsung because they stated they were different because of changable batteries, sd cards etc, so now they are copying because they have moved in the direction of apple and also the nexus line which has never had an sd card

Yet none of these people spouting such trash ever point out the following:

Steve Jobs - "no one's going to buy a big phone"
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/jobs-no-ones-going-to-buy-a-big-phone/

Apple refused NFC for years yet whilst other phones had it and generally usefull, introduced it in their last phones - u turn again anyone.

ALL companies do u turns, all companies copy, Apple hardly invents anything but then rarely do we see companies actually invent anything, they just reimagine and perfect. Yes some shout loud about their pluses, but both parties and google have ripped ideas of each other its called Business

The only winner here is the consumer, both on android and ios fences and for that we should be thankfull otherwise we would still be rocking our Nokias.

The quote about big phones would make a point if it had been said a couple of months ago. Steve said that over four years ago. Four years is a very long time in the technology industry.

 

[JediZenMaster]

I didn't say the list was not innovative because Samsung made it, and if Apple added something like wireless charging to the iPhone it wouldn't be innovative either. The only epic fail posts are those like yours which put words in the mouths of others to help promote your Apple fanboy agenda.

Apple fanboy agenda? I think you have it quite twisted and don't know what that term actually means. Anyway i plan on getting the galaxy S6 to go along with my iPhone 6. If you don't think its innovative i don't care.

 

[Thierry ba]

That funny how all you are talking about the iphone . But iphone is still way behind . Come one iphone still using 1g of ram and a dual core and low pixal camera's . Really . And that article is wrong both phone come with micro card slots. Samsung still have a 8 core processor 3g of ram and a really good camera. Iphone still sucks and is still way behind. And to set the record straight Samsung help apple with there phones . Apple stole samsung ideas so get that straight people.

iPhone will provide better user experience with dual core cpu and 1GB of ram than samsung with 16cores cpu and 6GBs of ram. Have a look at gaming and frame drops on premium samsung devices. You cant see that on iPhone. Specs on paper dont matter.

 

[Steve121178]

Honestly, are fellow Apple product owners that insecure? Apple make great products (and the occasional poor one) but they didn't invent the world and everything in it.

Most smartphone designs are pretty derivative now, Apple included. The iPhone 6 is hardly an original design as much as Apple PR would want you to believe. The reality is that unlike the early days of the iPhone most manufacturer's are taking design cues from each other now.

Biggest problem with the s6 is the price, I don't know how that'll be reflected on contract but it's going to be at the very top end.

It has nothing to do with insecurity and you're a fool for mentioning insecurity. Do you think I'm 15 or something?

Look at the speaker grill, the advertising, the packaging, the way Samsung are copying Apple's strategy. It's pathetic, but it's what Samsung do.

 

[RoccoFan]

Sad

I have purchased 4 iPads and one iPad mini. My iPad is the first thing in my hands in the morning and the last thing in my hands at night (sorry wifey). That said, I never saw the value proposition of the iPhone. I LOVE Samsung Galaxy phones. This is why the new GS6 phones are such a disappointment. I really like being able to swap out microSD cards and batteries if needed. Without that, there really is no reason not to seriously consider an iPhone. Samsung has taken away what is differentiating it from the iPhone and it can't hope to win against Apple without serious differenences.

Plus, putting the headphone jack at the bottom is stupid. It looks stupid on the iPhone and it looks stupid on any phone. Again, no difference in the hardware basics, why would I not choose an iPhone?

Sad.

 

[prowlmedia]

Hold on a mo... Samsung PAY. You are kidding right.

Did they not even right click on PAY and do apple look up?

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Samsung Wad. Sounds about right.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Don't be blinded by your love for a particular brand. Competition is always good.

It isn't competition, it's a half baked rip off.

 

[jtmarine73]

Nice looking hardware but.....

same UI as what I had on my Galaxy 2, 5 years ago. Way to innovate Samsung! Touchwiz is hideous and showing it's age. I'm surprised they did just go all the way and name the phone "iGalaxy"