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Samsung Announces Galaxy S6, Galaxy S6 Edge and Samsung Pay
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Guys, from what I know, Samsung Semi-conductor (the guys producing chips and DRAM for Apple) and Samsung Mobile (guys making these phones) are not really friends. Those are 2 business units with a very different agenda.
Generally, I came to the conclusion that Samsung somehow tries to be Apple. Not copy them, be them. Seriously.
But they are not Apple, and never will be. Maybe they'll find out about this once they hit the floor:
Chart from beyonddevic.es
Generally, I came to the conclusion that Samsung somehow tries to be Apple. Not copy them, be them. Seriously.
But they are not Apple, and never will be. Maybe they'll find out about this once they hit the floor:
Chart from beyonddevic.es
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They had hard times thinking of an original name
p.s: it couldn't sound funnier. Now let's wait for every brand to have their own "pay"
Just like how Apple couldn't come up with original name for their phone and steal from Cisco.
It's hilarious that the same people on here defending Samsung used to be the ones making fun of the iPhone for not having a removable battery, or expandable storage, or for having a fragile glass back, that plastic build was so practical.... and NOW that the Galaxy S6 has a non-removable battery, set storage options, and a glass/aluminum uni-body-like construction, ITS NOW COOL to have all of those things. Samsung, welcome to 2010.
Also I love how Samsung fans are all "Look at the specs, it has 4000gb of ram and with a 30 core processor and the camera has 50000 megapixels!!" Yeah and it still lags. Apple can make a phone with modest specs that still runs circles around these high spec "powerhouses". Samsung, that's all you've got? Samsungs slogan for the S6 ad should be "Is this close enough to an iPhone for you?"
Also I love how Samsung fans are all "Look at the specs, it has 4000gb of ram and with a 30 core processor and the camera has 50000 megapixels!!" Yeah and it still lags. Apple can make a phone with modest specs that still runs circles around these high spec "powerhouses". Samsung, that's all you've got? Samsungs slogan for the S6 ad should be "Is this close enough to an iPhone for you?"
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Probably because Samsung cheats at its benchmark scores, which has been documented quite extensively. When a Samsung phone detects certain benchmark software it overlocks its processors just to show a higher score. While it remans at a normal slower speed for most software.
I agree!
And as someone earlier stated, why not call it Samsung Wallet, or something completely unique or otherwise catchy. Calling it Samsung Pay just sounds fully like a "Me Too", to Apple Pay, when they could have drawn more attention to the fact that Samsung supported mobile payments (through Google Wallet) far before Apple Pay came out.
because where you guys are both wrong is that Samsung Wallet and NFC payments was already a thing.
this is more or less a re-branding, plus added functionality in order to take advantage of the re-resurgence of mobile payment technology in the US.
Samsung Wallet:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.wallet&hl=en
Google Wallet:
wallet.google.com
Edit: This is not to pass judgement on better or worse, or their subjective ease of use, or even how well it's implemented. Just that factually your statements are incorrect. I do personally believe Apple has the best implementation
Please do not take this a as a personal rant but a rant at what the problem is regards to apple and some misperceptions
You state
"Apple skates to where the puck where its going to be, not where it is right now"
We know this is a failed argument as a whole but not in part
Did they skate to large phones before everyone else, no they didnt, they only provided that option when they realised consumers actually wanted them and only the competition were making them and taking a small customer base from them
Did they skate to NFC inclusion before everyone else- again no they didnt
Did they skate to allow you third party keyboards - nope not this one either
Did they skate to basic widget notifications - nope
And the old argument they entered the market when it was right to and when they had perfected it, is just plain BS.
Samsung enters the payment market with a solution that can be used in nearly 87% plus stores from the off, who cares if the mag system is obsolete in years, the fact that they can be used virtually everywhere will be a great aid in transitioning. Who states all card reader replacements will have NFC. Not all do in the uk.
Yes Apple has innovated in other areas, their processor design is great, the fact the os can run on 1gb ram is testament to their os optimisation, their cameras and software have always produced great pictures, their hardware build is nearly always of the highest quality, But as a company they sometime make mistakes and play catchup, just like Samsung,Sony motorola and all other companies. The difference is for good or bad Apple has a strong customer base, who refuse to see when they do bad or when they make a misstep.
Android has the same problem with the nexus line, the inbuilt arguments between stock android and skinned can be just as fierce.
Personnaly i dont care about what anyone wants, what i want is what matters. I could buy an Iphone tomorrow but i choose not to, purely as i dont like IOS. However i also choose not to buy Samsung for other reasons.
Apple is not perfect, but then no Company has ever been
the context of the statement "skate to where the puck will be" requires knowldge of hockey in order to understand.
The one thing that is disigenous about using it in this regard is that saying "Skate to the puck will be" means that someone has passed the puck.
who passed it
Hockey is a team sport. using it as a metaphor here is implying that someone passed Apple the puck and they're skating to where it will be.
but now i'm just splitting hairs because I'm a hockey nutjob (and fanboy, Golf Leafs Golf). if using Hockey Metaphors, I find Apple to be like Phil Kessel. One of the leagues top most prolific scorers. But is selfish with the puck. Only really seems to care and try on the ice when he can get points, and doesn't really help out the team very much outside of his own personal stats.
The one thing that is disigenous about using it in this regard is that saying "Skate to the puck will be" means that someone has passed the puck.
who passed it
Hockey is a team sport. using it as a metaphor here is implying that someone passed Apple the puck and they're skating to where it will be.
but now i'm just splitting hairs because I'm a hockey nutjob (and fanboy, Golf Leafs Golf). if using Hockey Metaphors, I find Apple to be like Phil Kessel. One of the leagues top most prolific scorers. But is selfish with the puck. Only really seems to care and try on the ice when he can get points, and doesn't really help out the team very much outside of his own personal stats.
How am I wrong? I am well aware that they had a mobile payment system before, I even mentioned that they were using the framework of Google Wallet. I think they should capitalize, and market the fact that they had it first, as opposed to sounding like a "Me too" product, by naming it similar to the later Apple Pay product from Apple.
Google Pay
What are the thoughts on Samsung Pay and Google Pay being on the same Samsung device? Will it be allowed by Samsung?
What are the thoughts on Samsung Pay and Google Pay being on the same Samsung device? Will it be allowed by Samsung?
Good question, They had a choice. Make a phone that looks like an iPhone with a glued in battery and non expandable memory (although at least they start with a reasonable 32GB) and see how it does. At the end of the day, they need cheap phones to overcome the low end competition, not mee too flagship. Listen, I travel extensively for work, if any of their executives would look up in an airport to see the iPhone 5 AND 6 owners hugging those ridiculous charge poles, they would have perhaps figured out that putting out a phone with all plastic case and a solid 24 hours of battery under heavy use would have been a motivator for anyone. I tried a Phone 6 for about 4 weeks back in October because I really wanted the "Continuity" feature. Motorola it turns out offered a similar feature called connect, I ordered the Moto X 2014 in cognac leather and make sure to grab 20 minutes of quick charge before heading to the Airport. Say what you want boys, but my phone does things even your 6S won't do and, surprisingly I have managed to avoid both AD and BC in 2015!!!
What is BC / AD?
Let me explain - when all the "professional / expert reviewers" get done convincing everyone that so and so's phone just doesn't feel as "premium" as the iPhone (BC = BEFORE CASE) an argument rendered useless because anyone with half a brain is going to add a case to an iPhone that would cost $800-$1000 to replace (or anyone that realizes what a screw job a subsidized $199 iPhone or Samsung phone is and pays for it in full) And I don't care if its iPhone, Sammy or my little piece of crap Moto X, all are going to take serious damage to the tin case and or glass when it squirts out of someones hand! Premium feel, are you people rubbing one out against these things??? Yea the AD = AFTER DROPPED... Turns out I love the feel of the leather back on my Moto X and I have not added a case (I'm sure today will be the day I drop it) BUT My Google play edition with the black friday credit only cost me $300 with leather and 32GB - My goal, to make it until the Moto X 2015 comes out.
I digress, Sammy blew their chance at a gain in high end phones with these ridiculous phones. They still make a large part of the iPhone though so I predict they wont go out of business this year. I happen to work in the electronics industry and I can tell you that they make most everyones TV's as well. Question to you guys, I did not keep my iPhone long enough to try "Apple Pay" Google wallet works everywhere but I get pop ups for all the reward cards I have stored in my phone. i.e. I walk by a Best Buy, Starbucks etc and I get pop ups to the stores so if I choose I don't have to unlock my phone (Reminds me of Minority report) did they add that to Apple pay? Its a convenient cool feature - As is the always listening feature (I think iPhone has that too - if you have it plugged into something.
Their smart TVs listen to the private conversations that happen within your own home, turn them into written dialog and send them off to third parties who'd just love to listen in to your private conversations.
Who's to say they'll deal with payment information any differently? They're just as likely to send your card details and transaction information after every purchase, to the highest bidder. I wouldn't trust Samsung with any of my information in a million years. They're a shameless, corrupt company who treat users as the product. All these phones and products they release are just new ways of accessing more and more people's data to do with what they please.
That's the whole basis of Android and that's why I'll have no part in it. Google realised they couldn't stalk enough people with their search engine alone, so they created a service to get themselves into everybody's pockets. Android = more user data they can collect. I've been given no reason to trust Android or Samsung, but Apple are clearly very openly dedicated to my privacy and the protection of my sensitive information...a point they stress at least once in every keynote. Samsung'll say whatever makes them look good in the press, but behind closed doors...it's a very different story.
thi was a myth that was taken out of context by a bad quote
everyone was so quick to jump on the misquote that the story generated a life of it's own allvoer the internet before samsung was forced to clarify their statement
The TV's do NOT by default record / translate text and send it. For MOST models of Samsung TV's, you must press a button on the remote BEFORE it listens. On some models, it does not start transmitting or listening till you activate it via saying "hi TV"
Large screens are not indicative of just Samsung. We've had larger screen tv's/monitors for years. Apples reluctancies of large screens had a lot to do with using it with one hand. Large screens & phablets often have to be used with two hands. Once Apple solved the one hand useage problem with a software solution ( Reachability option, that lowers the screen down so you can reach the rest of the screen ) they were more accepting of a larger screen device.
When NFC first came out, it was more of a novelty in most cases. Until it had setup its Apple Pay system first. ( TouchID, Secure enclave M7 chip, Tokenization ) It actually made NFC more useful. Apple does not just add things for a wow factor. It has to actually be useful enough to be added.
Apple had widgets on the Mac desktop years before having it on a mobile device.
No its not, they perfected many things better then their competitors. ( Finger print scanner, mobile payment system, better mobile processors, the concept of an ecosystem ) The list goes on & on.
Sure a lot of things they come out with do not work out. But the majority of what they do come out right and why they are one of the most money making companies out there.
Just like Apple, Samsung collects data on their uses but it is not sold.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/09/technology/security/samsung-smart-tv-privacy/
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Good because there is nothing blatant here.
sheep go baaa, just like anti apple android fanatics go:
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I first read "does it blend"
Irony?
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I first read "does it blend"
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Most of those things had already been used by Apple in non mobile devices (unless you think patents for obvious things done on desktop is a brand new patent when done on mobile), or even in IOS Jailbreaks even before they wound up in Android phones...
As for NFC, NFC makers 4 years ago, didn't skake to were the puck would be; they mostly failed, so I guess the "puck" wasn't there after all.
