lol... they still use a cable to charge there phone. and it takes more than twice as long to do it
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Samsung Announces Galaxy S6, Galaxy S6 Edge and Samsung Pay
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lol... they still use a cable to charge there phone. and it takes more than twice as long to do it
After looking at the Galaxy S6, I had to say to myself, "Where I have I seen this before?"
(Holds up my iPhone 6) Ah, that's where I seen it before.
Mind you, I do like the new camera and wireless charging, though Apple's excellent Lightning connector and pretty fast charging times even from half-discharged doesn't make me pine for wireless charging, though.
Apple copied the Samsung active s.it was out well before the iPhone 6.
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People are hiding card scanners within ATM card scanners to steal this information. I'm sure it would be easier to just capture the magnetic field then to tamper with an ATM. Not saying it will be common, but if Samsung Pay just sends out the info, without creating tokens or anything, then people will hack it.
Also a soccer moms credit card will probably have a higher limit than just the cost of milk.
If you own a product and I buy your company out right I have no obligation to keep your product under the same name. They could have called it Samsung Fort Knox if they wanted to, but I think that's what they call their security? I don't know they will take on a couple of letters and numbers after six months anyway.
Also about Samsung's claim about how secure their new phone is the data encryption option is turned off by default!
http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/02/android-lollipop-automatic-encryption
It trademark for the word "pay" isn't being debated, but the mantra that the word pay has created since Apple Pay is. Basically people view Samsung Pay as a me too effect when they had the chance to be more original.
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lol... they still use a cable to charge there phone. and it takes more than twice as long to do it
Technically its still uses a cable somewhere, until they come out with wireless electricity.
LoopPay is making deals with banks like Chase to allow them to modify the card's service code, to appear like a magswipe only account.
This will allow LoopPay / Samsung Pay to avoid the chip insertion request.
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Btw, has everyone here been reading the news about gangs using Apple Pay to make millions of dollars of fraudulent purchases?
As much as 6% of the amount of Apple Pay purchases are being done by criminals pretending to be someone else. They enter stolen credit card info into iPhones, get "verified", and then use Apple Pay on the phones to buy high dollar items.... ironically, often at Apple Stores... that are then resold.
The criminals even call the banks to let them know that they'll "be on vacation out of town", so that fraud alerts won't kick in. Social engineering at its best.
A banking industry consultant lays the blame on both Apple and the banks, for not setting up better verification ahead of time. He also mentions that Apple has been of little help tracking down fraudulent registrations, due to makeshift reporting methods.
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Yeah that is great that some consultant is laying blame on apple but the fact is that the only reason fraud is popping up related to apple pay is banks not doing a good enough job of verifying cards that are added to devices.
And thats the reason why the banks are still responsible for fraudulent charges. As mentioned it was due to not doing proper verification. Of course, this is a new payment system so some bugs need to be worked out.
That's exactly what I thought when I saw the iPad mini and the iPad Air first and then the iPhone 6 - the reference to them is pretty obvious, especially as they are completely flat. I agree, the Antenna breaks are a feature that the HTC had as well, but other than that there are no similarities at all in the phones (although it's obvious why those who see them want to see them, considering their background
).All in all everyone hates everyone, all of the sudden people flip flop like stupid over "no SD slot, no removable battery, glass back" and there's only one word for "pay", but also the apple people here are kind of entertaining too
. Neither Apple nor Samsung will stop making phones from one day to another. The whole "we hate each other" thingy that you can read here and on a lot of Android boards right now is irrelevant.
I said he laid the blame on both Apple and the banks.
As the consultant pointed out, the contributing problem is that Apple controls whether a card is forwarded to the bank to be verified or not... and they did not make it mandatory for banks to handle the verification path until just before Apple Pay came out, which left the banks unable to implement more complicated verification procedures in time.
Obviously, yes, the banks should've been more on their toes. Sounds like they were diverted by the idea of preliminary user authentication on Apple's side. (Apple says they use iTunes data, device ids and even device location at the time of registration.) They weren't prepared for the number of registration attempts that could not be verified by Apple.
No doubt they'll tighten things up as time goes on.
Precisely. But I would not worry as much this time. Apple is now much more that a Device Maker. Samsung Mobile is nothing but a Device Maker. Apple has made a VERY successful transition to a Platform Manufacturer.
Samsung is completely dependent Google. The Android versions on their devices are fragmented as all hell.
Does anyone really thing Samsung Pay will be as secure as Apple Pay? If you do, I suggest you inform yourself ASAP on App Fragmentation.
Let Samsung copy. Tim won't go "Thermonuclear." Apple no longer competes with Samsung Mobile. Let samsung sell millions of S6's. Big deal. Android is the largest Mobil OS from being on $19 Pay Phones from Dollar Tree.
Not competing with Apple.
Well Samsung actually have their own operating system (TIzen) so they are more than a device maker. Also in terms of devices their portfolio is much greater than Apple's they make washing machines and fridges and TVs amongst other devices.
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That's exactly what I thought when I saw the iPad mini and the iPad Air first and then the iPhone 6 - the reference to them is pretty obvious, especially as they are completely flat. I agree, the Antenna breaks are a feature that the HTC had as well, but other than that there are no similarities at all in the phones (although it's obvious why those who see them want to see them, considering their background
All in all everyone hates everyone, all of the sudden people flip flop like stupid over "no SD slot, no removable battery, glass back" and there's only one word for "pay", but also the apple people here are kind of entertaining too
Now that they (in theory) offer 128GB of internal storage then lack of an SD card slot is a mute point imo. However the omission of the removable battery remains to be seen. If the S6 gets the battery life of say the iPhone 6 plus then I'd also say it's not a big deal.
I say the S6 will offer 128GB in theory as I'm not sure if carriers in the UK will actually have anything above the 32GB variants in stock.
It will be interesting to see what adverts Samsung come up with now.
I laugh at some of the comments in this thread. Why do you care who copied who? I could give a rats ass if Samsung copied apple or vice versa. That's not my fight. I don't own either apple or Samsung to care. I own a few hundred apple stocks but I'm not going to cry foul because a Samsung phone looks like my iPhone. Let cook do it. Lol.
That looks nothing like the iPhone 6 and 6 plus and looks just like an iPhone 5 please try again.
The Samsung active s has round soft edges just like the iPhone 6
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The headphone jack is on the bottom of my Samsung galaxy nexus.
Came out in 2011
I never said they invented stylus on a phone. I said first pressure-sensitive stylus on a mobile device.
Stop telling me to look and just give me a link.
Irrelevant because it was in the 20th century? Seriously? Mind you LTE is in the 21st century.
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Which was announced after the Ativ S. Please do your research
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After looking at the Galaxy S6, I had to say to myself, "Where I have I seen this before?"
(Holds up my iPhone 6) Ah, that's where I seen it before.
I think you need new glasses.
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Ya know?!
Thats fair.
I am not sure if the its fair to compare USB to Lightning, USB is a widely available standard while Lightning is an Apple standard. Manufacturing a cable to generic standard would seem easier than an Apple specific standard. IMHO - Early aftermarket Lightning cables were really bad and just within the past 6mo - 1 year have the aftermarket Lightning connector cables become reliable.
If I wanted to say iPhone 6 was was not the first rounded side phone then I would have included not just Samsung but other rounded phones including the original iPhone. Not including anything else but Samsung Ativ S smells fishy.
Antenna breaks are not a design feature but a functional necessity for antennas. iPhone4 had it and so does the HTC One, I don't understand how can one translate that to copying HTC.I agree, the Antenna breaks are a feature that the HTC had as well, but other than that there are no similarities at all in the phones (although it's obvious why those who see them want to see them, considering their background
What's missed here is that Samsung made fun of iPhones in their ads for having a headphone jack on the bottom.
Are we suggesting that because Samsung annouced Ativ S couple of months before the iPod touch release, Apple had the time to copy Samsung? What is the point of the statement?[/COLOR]Which was announced after the Ativ S. Please do your research
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No, someone posted an image of the iPod Touch 5th generation to say that Apple had rounded sides before Samsung, I'm just saying Samsung had rounded corners in the past too. Read above, I also stated that the iPhone 6 looks nothing like the Ativ S.
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How is this disappointing you?
How does this in any way affect your personal life?
Not sure what you mean by they can do a thing without Apple. Of course they can?
iPhone on Android? Usually the software goes on hardware.
I probably won't be buying one but rest assured, it will sell plenty. A huge telecom company in my area already sold out on preorders.
Desperation. I've spent enough time in the thread bickering with people that can't do their research. Didn't you know that it only takes 2 months and pics of an unreleased phone to create a new generation of an iPod touch? And that Apple never made an iPhone (3G
) that has rounded corners before so surely it must have come from the highly successful Ativ S?No I really couldn't type it with a straight face...