Samsung Announces Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge With Expandable Storage, Larger Battery

[Padaung]

This is exactly what Apple introduced with the iPhone 6, in case anyone was wondering.

Nope, Apple introduced a different technology. http://thenextweb.com/apple/2014/09...us-pixels-sensor-optical-image-stabilization/

Dual-pixel is technology developed by Canon for their DSLRs. It would appear Samsung have licensed it from Canon.
http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/cameras/digital_slr/dual_pixel_cmos_af/

Dual pixel is pretty damn amazing. And it is amazing Samsung have managed to put it into a device as slim as a mobile phone.

 

[iMember]

The multi core is impressive. But the single core, no

well it's still faster than iPhone 6s, and I'm taking about in daily day use not the geekbench scores
It definitely feels like Tim Cook is now hiding behind hardware and software optimization something that Steve Jobs created back when OS X Tiger was released, with those mobile cpu becoming more powerful each day..light mobile OSs are able to run smoothly on smartphones, making optimization between hardware and software less useful, after all i rather have faster performance based on hardware (100% real) instead of some tricky software, so i can delete the current iOS and install a different one like Android while still is able to run smoothly

 

[trifid]

Has anyone fully realized the ridiculously awesome battery capacity Samsung packed in S7?

S7: 3000 mAh
iPhone 6s: 1810 mAh

To get close to S7, suppose you buy Apple's embarrasing and expensive case, which has an extra 1877, it'd get you in total 3687mAh which is a bit more than samsung's 3000, but you are spending more (ie Apple profits) and making the iPhone more bulky.

 

[joueboy]

Amazing spec only iPhone user like me could only hope for. Unfortunately I'm heavily invested on Apple's ecosystem. SD Card slot is really the one I wish we have, but it's not gonna happen. That's couple hundred millions of dollars Apple makes for a few cents investment. Obviously we customers are not the priority but the investors. SMH!

 

[marcsoler]

Has anyone fully realized the ridiculously awesome battery capacity Samsung packed in S7?

S7: 3000 mAh
iPhone 6s: 1810 mAh

To get close to S7, suppose you buy Apple's embarrasing and expensive case, which has an extra 1877, it'd get you in total 3687mAh which is a bit more than samsung's 3000, but you are spending more (ie Apple profits) and making the iPhone more bulky.

The S7 Edge has 3600mAh.. so there's that...

 

[iManic]

well it's still faster than iPhone 6s, and I'm taking about in daily day use not the geekbench scores
It definitely feels like Tim Cook is now hiding behind hardware and software optimization something that Steve Jobs created back when OS X Tiger was released, with those mobile cpu becoming more powerful each day..light mobile OSs are able to run smoothly on smartphones, making optimization between hardware and software less useful, after all i rather have faster performance based on hardware (100% real) instead of some tricky software, so i can delete the current iOS and install a different one like Android while still is able to run smoothly

Great comment so now you know a product is better in real world and daily usage that hasn't even been released yet you must be a wizard. The 6S is blazing fast and has the hardware to back it up it was the only phone on the market with much faster NVME internal flash memory I did not hear anything about Samsung using this on the s7. Not to mention the lagwiz skin Samsung runs doesn't give it much of a chance
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Amazing spec only iPhone user like me could only hope for. Unfortunately I'm heavily invested on Apple's ecosystem. SD Card slot is really the one I wish we have, but it's not gonna happen. That's couple hundred millions of dollars Apple makes for a few cents investment. Obviously we customers are not the priority but the investors. SMH!

Also has a lot to do with the much slower speeds the SD cards read/write apple can't guarantee people will use them the right way. I have seen people keep apps on the SD card which then makes them load very slow in comparison to having them on the internal flash. id bet a good majority of iPhone users wouldn't know about it and would complain then how slow it was.

 

[Gudi]

Has anyone fully realized the ridiculously awesome battery capacity Samsung packed in S7?

Thank you, I'd rather have a smaller phone. There's no point in making handheld devices bigger and bigger again.

 

[Blujelly]

Wow looks awesome. Wireless charging, waterproof, OLED, expandability, start your copying machines Apple.

As it has been for many years, Apple introduce something and Samsung start there 'copying machines'.....

 

[BvizioN]

So even Samsung saw 3D Touch and said its not worth copying.

Actually you are right. It won't matter on Android powered device, unless all other phone makers did implement it.

 

[miknos]

At least Samsung is reading macrumors to see what people want. I not saying it is what people need though.

 

[username:]

Generally speaking, this place is more pro-Android and anti-iPhone than most Android forums. Looking at things through that lens provides a frame of reference for some of those posts you quoted.

That said, Android is far better than iOS for some people, and iOS is much better for others. If the Galaxy S7 provides more useful features for a person than the iPhone does, said person has received a "complete product" in their eyes. In my case, it boggles my mind that people paint the iPhone 6s as some sort of substandard product compared to the S7. The 6s is perfect for my needs... and the S7 is perfect for the needs of others.

I think we can all agree that Apple and Samsung's ongoing competition is great for everyone.

Let me rephrase. Samsung don't make the software. Apple and now Microsoft are showing how much better products are when the company designs both the hardware and software. Samsung has some control over the software probably but they don't make it which means their product will always have a hard time working as well as the iPhone.

For example, how could Samsung ever do something like 3D Touch? Not possible for them because they need the software as well.

You have to admit in the hardware department this thing blows iPhone out of the water. This is important to me because it means, if nothing else, that realistically it's possible to put out such impressive hardware, and it sets the bar higher for what to expect from Apple.

No I don't admit that at all. I don't need any of the gimmicks that the S7 has. I need a phone that works well.

 

[dragje]

That Edge is pretty sexy.

It's nothing more then a gimmick to me.

 

[BvizioN]

Samsung pay worked 100% of every place I tried it. Apple, I can't even remember the last time I used it. Samsung - you literally dont need to bring your wallet.

Doesn't that depend on which country? In UK I have not used my visa card for months and hardly ever I take my wallet with me. It has worked flawlessly both on iPhone and Apple Watch for me. How awesome is to take the underground and not even bother to purchase a ticket.... simply just tap your watch or phone. I have yet to see any Samsung phones being used for contactless payment, or any Android phone for that matter.

 

[dragje]

Wow looks awesome. Wireless charging, waterproof, OLED, expandability, start your copying machines Apple.

Wireless charging: nope, you need to put the device on a plate or other device that provides it with power. Hardly wireless at all.

Waterproof: not really, just an half an hour.

OLED: true, Apple should work on this, they will, in 2018 on massive scale so I have heard.

Expandability: true but also a security risk. Very easy to remove the extra storage disk.

If I where Apple I would leave the copy practices to Samsung, they are master in this.

 

[dr4stic]

What I love about this phone are due to 5 things
1) Camera- I'm so confused as to why they go with 1.7f aperture. Put something like 4..and we got camera killer on the loose. Not only that...when i re-watched the commercial...I was surprised that they have a good low light capability....at least from watching the commercial. I wonder how high the iso can go. The bad part: Why did they DOWNGRADE from 16 mp to 12 for rear? I wonder how many mp is on the front? I hope not 8mp. Then again..it's 12mp dual pixel.

I can't tell if you're joking or not, so I'm answering... A lower f number in aperture is actually better. It means more light is getting through. An f stop of 4 would be far (FAR) worse than 1.7

As for the pixel count... The sensor is a fixed size. Larger pixels can collect more light and reduce noise in low light. Larger pixels means you can't fit as many pixels on the sensor. Samsung is sacrificing pixel count for better low light performance. That sacrifice payed huge dividends on the recent Nexus phones whose cameras perform amazingly well. The average person truly doesn't need more than 5-8MP. Going from 16 to 12 is thus not seen as a big deal.

Add in OIS and the much faster focus times and that camera is going to be a killer.

 

[trifid]

Thank you, I'd rather have a smaller phone. There's no point in making handheld devices bigger and bigger again.

I'm not sure how that image is relevant at all. Did you even look up the S7 dimensions?

S7 5.1": 150.9 x 72.6 x 7.7 mm (5.94" x 2.86" x 0.30") 3000 mAh
6s 4.7": 138.3 x 67.1 x 7.1 mm (5.44" x 2.64" x 0.28") 1715 mAh

S7 5.5": 150.9 x 72.6 x 7.7 mm (5.94" x 2.86" x 0.30" ) 3600 mAh
6s+ 5.5": 158.2 x 77.9 x 7.3 mm (6.23" x 3.07" x 0.29") 2750 mAh

They are almost the same size, but Samsung's actually has a 5.1 screen vs iPhone's 4.7. And in the case of the 5.5" phone, Samsung's is actually smaller.

Edit: added battery capacities.

 

[iManic]

Doesn't that depend on which country? In UK I have not used my visa card for months and hardly ever I take my wallet with me. It has worked flawlessly both on iPhone and Apple Watch for me. How awesome is to take the underground and not even bother to purchase a ticket.... simply just tap your watch or phone. I have yet to see any Samsung phones being used for contactless payment, or any Android phone for that matter.

Also for the 100% success rate A lot of stores especially smaller private owned stores have the card reader behind the counter. So now you have to hand your brand new slippery curved Samsung to some half asleep high school student to complete the transaction for you. Good luck explaining it to them if they don't know how to use it and holding the line up. Moral of the story Always bring your wallet lol

 

[trifid]

Wireless charging: nope, you need to put the device on a plate or other device that provides it with power. Hardly wireless at all.

Right, some people find that extremely convenient you know, similarly to how people charge their Apple watches

And by the way, Apple is rumored to do this for iPhone in the near future

 

[dr4stic]

Benchmarks make for interesting reading.

But using two sources for chips is something Samsung's done before to satisfy demand for their phones. I've purposely bought an International Galaxy and the identical model for the USA, just to compare and then resell.

Day to day heavy usage reveals no discernable difference. A fact backed up by a few experts.

It isn't to meet demand. Samsung has quite often sourced the Qualcomm chips for the US market due to the radios being more capable in that scenario. Had the snapdragon 810 not sucked so horrendously, the s6 wouldn't have been Exynos for the full line. As it was the Exynos had an external radio (from Qualcomm I think) which only served to be less power efficient.

More proof that it's not about demand: Samsung is manufacturing the 820's for Qualcomm.

Additionally, on the hacking side, Qualcomm CPUs get FAR more support from AOSP replacement ROMs. Devs and enthusiasts tend to stay away from things with Exynos chips in them because of the lack of resources to port. Qualcomm is quite loved by CM.

 

[kdarling]

Thank you, I'd rather have a smaller phone.

The end result of that progression was, of course, this:

There's no point in making handheld devices bigger and bigger again.

Apple made theirs bigger, and it paid off in huge sales stolen from their competitors.

The next big thing (no pun intended) will probably be folding phones which expand into mini tablets.

Expandability: true but also a security risk. Very easy to remove the extra storage disk.

Same can be said for storage on most cameras. And they get stolen all the time.

However, if it's a big deal to you, simply turn on SD card encryption.

 

[BvizioN]

If people didn't buy them, Apple would probably do something about it.

Exactly what I kept saying for years. Sure there must be people buying them for Apple do still produce them (even though I do agree that is pathetic, even more considering it does not support expandable memory) But if people didn't buy them, Apple would move to a higher entry level.

 

[iManic]

Right, some people find that extremely convenient you know, similarly to how people charge their Apple watches

And by the way, Apple is rumored to do this for iPhone in the near future

apple is not going to do the standard wireless charging for the iPhone otherwise they would have already done it it's not some ground breaking technology. They are researching real wireless charging with no pad but there's no guarantee seems it's in early development phase. I have wireless charging on my Lumia 950 xl work phone it's pointless. I'd rather plug my usb-c in and charge away at 15 Watts instead of laying it on a huge pad that's wired itself for hours

Samsung missed the boat by not including Usb c and sticking with the infuriating micro Usb just a real head scratcher.

 

[trifid]

apple is not going to do the standard wireless charging for the iPhone otherwise they would have already done it it's not some ground breaking technology. They are researching real wireless charging with no pad but there's no guarantee seems it's in early development phase. I have wireless charging on my Lumia 950 xl work phone it's pointless. I'd rather plug my usb-c in and charge away at 15 Watts instead of laying it on a huge pad that's wired itself for hours

It's not pointless, there is so much wrong with your post I'm not sure where to start. First of all, people keep assuming that in order to have inductive charging you need to give up a cable, this is not true, look at Samsung's phone you can use inductive charging or cable, your choice

Secondly, why does Apple offer an iPhone dock? For convenience right? Well with inductive charging it'd be even more convenient, same as the Apple Watch pad.

Third, inductive charging would be awesome on car mounts, you could dock your car in your car and use it as GPS etc, less cable clutter and much more convenient.

Fourth, even if Apple does 'true' wireless technology, you'll still need some kind of pad or device that transmits the signal.

 

[dragje]

Right, some people find that extremely convenient you know, similarly to how people charge their Apple watches

And by the way, Apple is rumored to do this for iPhone in the near future

I don't find it convenient to drop a phone on a specific place to enable recharging. With the same amount of energie you plug your phone in that enables a much faster charging.
And Apple is working on true wireless charging, an idea that it doesn't require your phone to put on a specific place but that it will be powered up when entering a specific area. If Apple would succeed in doing so then this is true innovation and a major breakthrough for charging devices in general.

 

[Truefan31]

It's not pointless, there is so much wrong with your post I'm not sure where to start. First of all, people keep assuming that in order to have inductive charging you need to give up a cable, this is not true, look at Samsung's phone you can use inductive charging or cable, your choice

Secondly, why does Apple offer an iPhone dock? For convenience right? Well with inductive charging it'd be even more convenient, same as the Apple Watch pad.

Third, inductive charging would be awesome on car mounts, you could dock your car in your car and use it as GPS etc, less cable clutter and much more convenient.

Fourth, even if Apple does 'true' wireless technology, you'll still need some kind of pad or device that transmits the signal.

It's not giving up a cable it's why place my phone on a pad that charges slower than if I just plugged in and I can still use my phone while plugged in? The supposed wireless charging isn't really wireless.

What Apple is trying to do is short area true wireless charging. So get in ur car, it'll charge without any plate to put it on. Use phone freely while charging. Get home just place phone anywhere on a desk it starts charging. Pick it up send a text or call it's still charging. That's the definition of convenient.