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Here's the difference between Apple and Samsung. If Samsung releases something first, Apple takes their time and makes their own version and they make it RIGHT. When Apple releases something first, Samsung tries their best to directly copy it, they rush it, and it never even works correctly.
 
-Multi-user, I don't really see the purpose

Seems pretty obvious to me. More than one person uses the device, they all want to be able to check their separate email, Facebook, etc. It's not rocket science. Not to mention having some privacy on those accounts instead of having them open on the device or having to login every time they're used. Fingerprint is perfect for user switching, too bad Apple let someone else get to it first.
 
At WWDC. The difference is that its on a tablet now, not a device in 3-5 months time, so technically samsung is first with it.

Aside from all of the bickering about who invented what first, and whether Samsung has a little army of engineers sitting in a dark room watching Apple Keynotes to reverse engineer stuff as soon as they see it, and that Samsung is shipping (next month) while Apple is still developing, let's keep this fact in mind:

All of the features announced by Apple at WWDC will be available on existing Apple hardware with a free software update once it's released, and will not require EVERYONE in the ecosystem to buy a new piece of hardware in order to get the features.

Additionally, and this is just an assumption going off of Samsung's track record:

  • They won't even come close to getting it right the first time.
  • When they do improve on it they will likely leave last gen hardware purchasers behind, going down another fork in the road. That's their MO.
 
The gold trim is idiotic, but the different user profiles is something that I get disappointed about at every iOS release. Why can't I just have an admin and public profile on my iPad. That's all I want.... waaaaaa!
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Here's the difference between Apple and Samsung. If Samsung releases something first, Apple takes their time and makes their own version and they make it RIGHT. When Apple releases something first, Samsung tries their best to directly copy it, they rush it, and it never even works correctly.

Indeed.

If Apple and Samsung were vacations, Apple would be a leisurely tour of the world's great capital cities to marvel at architecture done right.

Samsung would be a dirty weekend in Vegas!

Fine for some, I'm sure.:rolleyes:
 
The hidden feature is that it crashes every other day for no apparent reason. At least, that’s the hidden feature on MY Samsung tablet. Oh, another nifty feature they don’t advertise is that the Android kernel they’ve got on there uses 70% of the RAM when the tablet isn’t doing anything. Leaving less than a gig for my apps. Samsung really knows what their customers want! False advertising, unreliable hardware, and useless apps you can’t uninstall!

Long Live Samsung! :rolleyes:
 
Yet people walk in the store and come out with their product of choice every day. Wonders never cease. Even if someone was confused, there's a handy sales person right there.

People definitely do not always come out with their product of choice everyday, but whatever was pushed to them by the "handy sales person" that pushes the product that pays the highest spiff that week.

Case in point: My friend's father in law came home one day with a Galaxy S4 because he was told by the Verizon sales guy that it was better than the iPhone because it had twice the battery life of the iPhone 5 when in fact it's the other way around.
 
People definitely do not always come out with their product of choice everyday, but whatever was pushed to them by the "handy sales person" that pushes the product that pays the highest spiff that week.

Case in point: My friend's father in law came home one day with a Galaxy S4 because he was told by the Verizon sales guy that it was better than the iPhone because it had twice the battery life of the iPhone 5 when in fact it's the other way around.

I can give 100 anecdotes in the opposite direction and I am sure you can come back with 150 that are the opposite of mine. It makes no difference.

Your case in point above has nothing to do with the original point regarding confusion with Samsung lines. If someone is confused about the different lines a simple "What's the difference between the Tab Pro and Note Pro?" would be sufficient to get them headed in the right direction.

I'm not quite sure what point you were trying to make with that case. Totally unrelated.
 
So I guess thinner and lighter is innovation when someone other than Apple is announcing it.


Why don't you answer your own question? If thinner and lighter is innovation then both Apple and Samsung have innovated, if it isn't, then both Apple and Samsung have claimed a falsehood, so, which is it?

Or do you want to load it just the one way as you normally do?
 
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People definitely do not always come out with their product of choice everyday, but whatever was pushed to them by the "handy sales person" that pushes the product that pays the highest spiff that week.

Case in point: My friend's father in law came home one day with a Galaxy S4 because he was told by the Verizon sales guy that it was better than the iPhone because it had twice the battery life of the iPhone 5 when in fact it's the other way around.


Bingo. The carrier stores push Android phones because their profit is higher, and Android allows the carriers to go back to the bad old days of making deals with hardware manufacturers to put software on the devices that users don't want, and can't take off without rooting the phone.

Nothing would make the carriers happier than for the iPhone to just disappear from the face of the earth. You might say, "But they sell so many iPhones. Why would they want them to go away?" Because if the iPhone were gone they would be able to sell more Android at a higher profit, and continue to push us back to the bad old days. They only sell iPhones because their competitors sell them.

It's sort of like selling liquor on Sundays. In my state there were blue laws that outlawed liquor sales on Sundays. It took many years after the ridiculousness of those laws were recognized, and people started pushing for their repeal before it finally happened. You want to know the biggest lobby to keep the laws in place? The liquor store lobby. Why? Because they made plenty of money on 6 days a week, and didn't want to be open on Sundays. But they knew that once the law was changed and the market was available their competitors would open, and they would have to do the same, or risk losing sales.

Same thing is happening now with car dealerships. There have been pushes in our state legislature to make selling cars two days a weekend legal. The car dealer lobby is the biggest opponent.

The point to all of this is that Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Best Buy, etc. would love it if the iPhone were not available to you and me, because they don't make as much money on it at sale, and they know that Apple is not going to give them the same control over the handset that Android manufacturers will.

So complain about the "walled garden" all you want. I am happy that Apple is working hard to keep a consistent experience for me. I don't need them to protect me from myself. I can make my own decisions, and I do so with my eyes wide open about Apple's practices and policies. I want and need Apple on that wall to protect me from the cell carriers.
 
Aside from all of the bickering about who invented what first, and whether Samsung has a little army of engineers sitting in a dark room watching Apple Keynotes to reverse engineer stuff as soon as they see it, and that Samsung is shipping (next month) while Apple is still developing, let's keep this fact in mind:

All of the features announced by Apple at WWDC will be available on existing Apple hardware with a free software update once it's released, and will not require EVERYONE in the ecosystem to buy a new piece of hardware in order to get the features.

Additionally, and this is just an assumption going off of Samsung's track record:

  • They won't even come close to getting it right the first time.
  • When they do improve on it they will likely leave last gen hardware purchasers behind, going down another fork in the road. That's their MO.

If you are talking about the sidesync, this one is available for use by any galaxy phones old or new for 2 years at least. It is an app. And there are many 3rd party ones as well.

It sure takes long time for Apple to come out with something that's so old. Did I hear somebody said Samsung copied apple?
 
They confuse me and I wouldn't consider myself the average consumer! I wanted to try a Samdung tablet and had a difficult time deciding which one to go with. The specs/differences weren't that clear when at a Best Buy store looking.

In the end I just ended up with a rMini which is fine, but Samdung needs to condense their tablets and phones a little. We don't need THAT many different choices...

I hope you never have to go into a food supermarket, buy a car or a watch, or look through a holiday destination catalogue.
They would blow your mind.

Parents make choices for their children as they are not educated/mature enough to make many choices themselves.

As Adults, you are then expected to decided exactly what you would like, and of course it's nice if you have the option.

Would you cut choices down in all aspects of life?

3 brands of coffee or tea.
car makers only making 5 models

I know having to make a choice what you want is quite alien to many Apple fans.
They make what they want to, and then persuade you, that's what you want.

Most of the normal world thankfully does not work like this, and no one would want it to. Unless you were a little child. You want to be offered a wide range of items, so you may select the one that most meets your needs.
 
I hope you never have to go into a food supermarket, buy a car or a watch, or look through a holiday destination catalogue.
They would blow your mind.

Parents make choices for their children as they are not educated/mature enough to make many choices themselves.

As Adults, you are then expected to decided exactly what you would like, and of course it's nice if you have the option.

Would you cut choices down in all aspects of life?

3 brands of coffee or tea.
car makers only making 5 models

I know having to make a choice what you want is quite alien to many Apple fans.
They make what they want to, and then persuade you, that's what you want.

Most of the normal world thankfully does not work like this, and no one would want it to. Unless you were a little child. You want to be offered a wide range of items, so you may select the one that most meets your needs.

I did decide what I liked. The iPad. Thank goodness Apple gave me several choices on which one I wanted! I mean I got to pick out the color, capacity and screen size! Yay! Choices! I even got to pick out which case I wanted from all the available selection at the Apple store!


:rolleyes:
 
When will there be a 12" NotePRO S with LTE and at least 128GB of built-in storage?
 
Same wifi network

"Sidesync allows the Galaxy Tab S to answer phone calls routed through a Samsung Galaxy S5 smartphone if both devices are on the same WiFi network."

There is an important technical difference here which is that most of the features that are now being used to tie together a constellation of Apple devices (play video from your laptop to an AppleTV, use an iPhone with a game controller to play a game on OSX, answer phone calls using your iMac, etc) operate using a network constructed on the fly, NOT the local WiFi network.
[This was true in the past for Airdrop but not most other features; but it's pretty much all the way through iOS8/OSX10]

It's not clear technically exactly how this is done --- it might be that a WiFi network is constructed on the fly, it might be through a BT network, it might be a combination [the BT 3 spec allows for using BT to set up a WiFi network which is then used for heavy duty transport] --- and the details may differ depending on the exact properties required and the HW involved.

Regardless of the tech details, the Apple solution provides a superior user experience because it allows your "personal network" to move with you and to work without having to validate. eg your phone should still just talk to your laptop in a hotel room, even if you have not paid for hotel WiFi; or you should be able to go to a mutual friend's house and stream a movie from your phone to their Apple TV without having to connect your phone to the mutual friend's network. (I say mutual friend --- someone you're unlikely to visit again --- because, sure, a friend you'll probably connect your phone to the WiFi network for other reasons since you'll frequently be over.)

Now that Samsung knows the direction they want to copy, it's not clear to me if they can, at least not right away. Depending on the exact HW involved, it may take another refresh round for all their various pieces (phones, tablets, Galaxy Gear, their inevitable equivalent to ChromeCast, etc) to get good enough BT/WiFi HW. There may also be a problem with APIs. Done incorrectly this sort of ad hoc networking is obviously a security disaster waiting to happen --- you don't want random phones walking by to be able to connect to your laptop --- and it's possible (I don't know the details) that most of Apple's work has actually been not in getting the HW to work but in the OS and APIs to get everything to work SECURELY. Airdrop (which has more user intervention) may, in fact, have been a deliberate prototype for the whole system --- a test case that could have been shut down fairly easily if it was discovered that there was some overlooked conceptual security flaw.

While one can probably trust Google to get the upper layers correct when they get around to copying his, you're a braver man than I am if you're going to trust Samsung's legendary attention to detail and concern with providing timely updates to this sort of aggressively new security environment.
 
Sidesync allows the Galaxy Tab S to answer phone calls routed through a Samsung Galaxy S5 smartphone if both devices are on the same WiFi network.

So has to get the latest to use sidesync then?

Apple allows older devices to use the latest features.
 
Mac Rumors: not talking about anything except Samsung products since 2012.

That is not true. They write a lot of articles about Beats, Burberry, wearables, thermostats, random mockups, patent wars, and celebrities, too.
 
I never understood why this site macrumors cares so much about what others are doing. If I want Androidrumors I'd go their website.

Because...

A. Apple doesn't exist in a bubble.

and...

B. Considering Apple only officially releases info about two or three times a year, and everyone gripes about the frequent little rumor and mockup posts, Macrumors has to do something to fill all that empty space. Might as well talk about what the competition is doing.
 
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