Samsung Announces New Galaxy S23 Ultra With 200-Megapixel Camera

[dk001]

Samsung relies on suckers that don't understand how megapixels work and assume that 8K resolution means better video. More numbers mean it must be better right? Seriously I get if you don't want to spend money or are going through hard times you'd buy an Android phone but I have never understood why someone chooses to buy a Android over iPhone.

While I can understand your viewpoint I think your focus is off point. The majority of the photo you see from your smart-device these days is software, not hardware. For the new Samsung 200 MP I can see it being a definite benefits for low light and extreme zoom. That leads to the bigger question: did Samsung improve their camera software?

 

[dk001]

Pretty impressive phone and tech! Apple really showed them how to do it! Even their presentations follow Apple keynotes so closely. Why is that?

The Snapdragon Gen2 outperforms the A16 in benchmark tests, but runs hotter, which means more wasted energy! From a pure performance-per-watt basis (less heat), the A16 still rules the roost.

Love them or hate them (or somewhere in the middle), Apple does do great most cases when it comes to marketing. If it works, copy shamelessly.

 

[dk001]

True... there should be a separate, unlinked site for this: SamsungRumors.com or SamsungCopiedRumors.com
Keeping MR clean from these advertorials.

I find it pretty cool I can get some basic competition news on this site. As a user of both OS’s, I appreciate it. Guess it cuts down on my flipping back and forth between here and competing websites.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

It could be 1.21 gigapixels, but it's still not an iPhone.

That will a positive or a negative depending on who you are I would assume.

 

[dk001]

My only response is to ask how many Apple-provided apps are uninstallable. It's really the exact same situation.

Many people don’t take the time to think about this. One of my big “wish Apple would allow” I have for my iPhone.

 

[dk001]

Just decided to look and see on iOS 16.3 I can’t delete

1. App Store
2. Messages
3. Phone
4. Photos
5. Safari
6. Settings (if you want to count that as an app)

I’m at work so I don’t have my Samsung Tablet with me so I can’t check that.

Don’t forget Siri. Or conversely Bixby.
I’d rather have Google Assistant.

 

[dk001]

Interesting.

But there’s zero chance I’d ever run an OS provided by a company whose business model is egregious tracking at data brokering. Blows my mind how people seem oblivious to this because of the shiny new thing in front of them.

Topic for another thread, think there are a couple already out there, but what do you think Apple does with your data?

btw - don’t ask me as Apple isn’t saying.

 

[dk001]

This is a fabulous phone. Anyone who thinks that Samsung OS is laggy are stuck about 10 years ago and probably haven't used one but are just putting the comment down after hearsay and don't really know. Shame really, phone lagging is well in the past. Before the flaming starts, have a look at what I own in my sig, I have also owned Samsung, Pixel and before that, Nexus products.

I haven’t owned a Samsung since the Note 5, but the wife really loves her Flip 3. Have to admit it is fast based on the occasional fix I have to do for her. She’s a classic install/uninstall app just because it looks cool person 😂

 

[dk001]

Yes, that's fair enough, I can't really comment because I have never used their mid range offerings and accept what you say. I have used Pixel and Nexus which could (price wise) be classed as mid range and these work/worked flawlessly with no lag or stutter so, you are probably right, Samsung could/should up their game in the mid range. I bought my iPhones simply because it integrated better (much) with my hearing aids and now, although I would be tempted to go back, am rather stuck because I was tempted to buy the most excellent Apple Watches, having said that, I still have a Garmin Fenix which is probably a step up (in my opinion, I know others will disagree).

Have to agree on the watch side. AW Ultra and Fenix 7. AW is more recreational. Garmin is more serious.

Think part of Samsung mid-range issue is the business model. Throw a whole bunch of devices to the wall and see what sticks. If it don’t stick it doesn’t get much in the way of TLC.

 

[AdamNC]

If you had to buy an Android phone what one is the best comparable to the iPhone in 3 areas, build quality, performance, and user experience. Just curious.

 

[VampyricGentleman]

Don’t forget Siri. Or conversely Bixby.
I’d rather have Google Assistant.

Thanks I had because I don’t use any digital assistants

 

[SactoGuy18]

I think the Galaxy S23 models are excellent phones but I do express concern about what happens when the security patches and Android version upgrades are applied over the next few years. I also think the Galaxy S23 is gotten a bit too big, too.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

An optical sensor is as good as the optics in from of it.
For a 200 MP Sensor, I hope they are using very good lenses.. otherwise, it's a waste.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

Thanks I had because I don’t use any digital assistants

You must have Igor as your assistance...🤣

 

[Taipan]

Was it nonsense also when apple released their 48 Mpixel camera iPhone? These cameras are not meant to produce a 48 (or 200) megapixel output, but to over sample so the output 12 mega (or whatever) picture is less noisy.

I still have to read an explanation why combining the photons falling on four separate pixels should result in a less noisy picture compared to the photons falling on one single pixel that takes up exactly the same space (I know the nomenclature is off, but you know what I mean).

 

[VampyricGentleman]

You must have Igor as your assistance...🤣

Just as reliable as saying “Hey Siri” I guess

 

[dk001]

Thanks I had because I don’t use any digital assistants

I mostly use mine while driving (Android Auto)

 

[dk001]

You must have Igor as your assistance...🤣

 

[Rafterman]

True... there should be a separate, unlinked site for this: SamsungRumors.com or SamsungCopiedRumors.com
Keeping MR clean from these advertorials.

Ten pages of comnents. So a lot of people apparently care.

 

[sman789]

If you had to buy an Android phone what one is the best comparable to the iPhone in 3 areas, build quality, performance, and user experience. Just curious.

Samsung and Sony. I'm still using a Note 20 Ultra and I would upgrade but have no need or craving.

I also still have an LG G8 and if they were still making phones with a headphone jack and SD card slot, I'd get that next.

 

[StellarVixen]

Whee, imagine! 200 megapixels? You can zoom into low light photo and discern every single noise grain, even the smallest one! Impressive

 

[dk001]

This event was interesting. Seeing the direction in design that Samsung is taking compared to a lot of other Android OEM’s - especially the current round camera bump vs the square. Samsung’s design is much cleaner.

btw - for that camera system, RAW is limited to the 50MP and lower. You cannot take RAW with the 200MP.

 

[pilotpat]

Just guessing, but those 200Mp might be pretty useful for low-light photography. If you are 'condensing down to 12MP', you can 'bin' pixels (average the signal around the pixel that you're interested in) - this would be noise-cancelling for CCD's at the extreme end of their sensitivity.

That's exactly why they are doing it. Their big push for this generation is "Nightography". Low light photography on a phone is hard to do well, and they are trying to fix it with the bump in MP. I'm interested to see if it works out in real world use vs. the surgically designed environments these companies use to tout their camera performance.

 

[Joe Dohn]

That's exactly why they are doing it. Their big push for this generation is "Nightography". Low light photography on a phone is hard to do well, and they are trying to fix it with the bump in MP. I'm interested to see if it works out in real world use vs. the surgically designed environments these companies use to tout their camera performance.

The bump in megapixels has nothing to do with it. What matters is how sensitive the sensor is to light – the more sensitive, the less light you need.

There are ways to circumvent the need of light with the use of AI to guess the 3D shape of an object, noise reduction, and infra-red sensors. Maybe Samsung is using these to get better photos.

 

[pilotpat]

The bump in megapixels has nothing to do with it. What matters is how sensitive the sensor is to light – the more sensitive, the less light you need.

There are ways to circumvent the need of light with the use of AI to guess the 3D shape of an object, noise reduction, and infra-red sensors. Maybe Samsung is using these to get better photos.

Or maybe it's a combination of all of the above? I mean, what I said is coming from what Samsung said in their marketing on the new sensor they are using. I'm just guessing because i'm not a photographer, but it seems logical to me. At any rate, I guess we'll see what the results are when we see real world images from the camera.