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Completely ignoring the megapixel count, which is just absurd and pointless, that pink one with the three camera lenses arranged in a vertical row looks fantastic.

Apple is still lightyears ahead when it comes to software, and I'm not even the least bit tempted by these, but the latest Samsung and Google phones have had far superior exterior hardware designs.
 
That's true — more does not equal better. The same goes for the RAM addicts. BUT, by pushing the boundaries of technology, all ships rise with the tide. We end up with better tech in the end, so I have no problem with them boasting about 200 megapixel cameras.
Maybe the real innovation should be in how to do more with less (eg: optimise software to make more efficient use of less ram), rather than do more with more?
 
Pretty impressive phone and tech! Apple really showed them how to do it! Even their presentations follow Apple keynotes so closely. Why is that?

The Snapdragon Gen2 outperforms the A16 in benchmark tests, but runs hotter, which means more wasted energy! From a pure performance-per-watt basis (less heat), the A16 still rules the roost.
Just GPU @ 3DMark. Otherwise A16 is wiping the floor in NPU/CPU department. The Snapdragon is still using pretty low amount of cache which is funny. 8MB SLC vs 24MB in A16. Pretty sure the prime core is also not with 16MB (like Everest) which is on par with average desktop CPU.
 
Was it nonsense also when apple released their 48 Mpixel camera iPhone? These cameras are not meant to produce a 48 (or 200) megapixel output, but to over sample so the output 12 mega (or whatever) picture is less noisy.
Apple’s 48 megapixel is exactly that. Samsung’s megapixel count is significantly lower by the way the megapixels are utilized.

Proving once again, Samsung advertises fluff and flashy specs that make headlines. Too bad their implementation sucks.
 
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That's really sad actually.

I mean my next phone is going to be another iPhone for sure for reasons that have nothing to do with the camera, but there's so much amazing stuff out there. To deliberately blind yourself because of the logo is sad.
Not really. Their hardware is decent, but the OS is trash. Because of that, I will not even consider Samsung for a second.
 
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Doesn't this increase the file size, processing power needed for the software pipeline to process the photo, battery power needed when taking and browsing photos, time needed to take a photo? I was under the impression that if your sensor is picking up noise, increasing megapixels just records the noise at a higher resolution, it doesn't clean up photos or increase the detail of the photo unless the sensor can keep up.

Maybe it's a future proofing move? I just feel like it's not appropriate for todays phones, even the high end ones.
 
I'd prefer a larger image sensor with larger pixels so it can absorb more light.

A super telephoto focal length would be nice too.
 
Looks like a taller iPhone with a vertical camera array.

More megapixels are good, means more zoom without needing a telescopic lens, which apparently iPhone will have next year. I wonder if by next year the iPhone Pro Max will have a huge megapixel count and the telescopic lens, giving it unrivalled zoom.
 
Was it nonsense also when apple released their 48 Mpixel camera iPhone? These cameras are not meant to produce a 48 (or 200) megapixel output, but to over sample so the output 12 mega (or whatever) picture is less noisy.
They’re talking a 4x upgrade since 2015 vs the big number game that Samsung has been playing for the fourth year in a row if I’m not mistaken.
 
All those Galaxy's whistles and bells and yet STILL will get short OS updates & support which is why I brought iPhone 13 PM 256gb in October '22 because I know that it will get FIVE or more years of iOS updates.

But once the future iPhone gets the Space Zoom, I'm in!
samsung offers 4 years of OS and 5 years of security updates. Basically one year difference from apple. So is that 5th year really that important?
 
Think of the file sizes! I really don't want a 200M pixel camera, I have no use for it: no one does Post processing will be a nightmare and you'll need a huge amount of memory for nothing.
A printer can't use more than about 8Mp it throws away the rest. 8K video only needs 33 (and on a small screen you won't see that).
It must have reached the Nyquist limit a long time before 200M pixel and all those transistors must be making a massive amount of noise (assuming it has a lot of transistors and if not then what's the point?)
You could get really gorgeous results out of 3mp if you had a big sensor and good glass. (The Canon D30 was a good example. A slow camera but the image quality was sublime)
This will give you a lot more cropping (if your machine has the memory to post process it) but if it's over sampling and applying masses of noise reduction to eliminate the noise from all the transistors, then it will be a mess.
There's no way you can get enough information from a small sensor to warrant it.
Take a sheet of paper and cut it into 12. Now cut it into 200 and when you stick it back together you've still got the same piece of paper and it's the same with the sensor. The light that falls on it is what you have to work with and you can cut it into as many pieces as you like but it doesn't improve the light you've got and in fact, it reduces it because all those edges and corners between the photosites aren't collecting any.
There's a point where there aren't enough of course but there's a point where there are too many and I'd argue 50 is already too many.
A bigger sensor with better signal processing and 12Mp will do me. Better then the $5 plastic glass on the other end and less noise reduction and it'll be a lot better.
 
Let’s see… 1000 for 3 years of updates, that’s 333 per year. If I buy an iPhone that’s 1100 for 6 years of updates, that’s 183 per year. Seems an easy calculation to make?
 
I do like how the camera bumps are done, not that big a fan of the 3 tier square bump iPhone has. Doesn't really matter though because I don't look at the back of my phone.
 
The more the megapixels, the worst the camera is. It's a known fact nowadays, please Samsung, don't take us for stupid.
explain the A7RV then, not always higher megapixel equals worse quality. But on a really tiny sensor I can say then yes it would be but any sensor larger than a apsc higher megapixel though it might get more noise it does definitely get more detail
 
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