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People mocking the 200MP feature but probably praise the useless pill notch on the 14pro series. Looking forward to the night photos which is where this new sensor may help with details. Would be nice if Apple copied Samsung's lens design. It's getting way too big now.
 
Samsung has passed the iPhone’s ability to take great photos. Check some of the latest side by side reviews. The Google Pixel as well…for some reason in many cases, it appears the processing of the iPhone is way off.
Yeah iPhone cameras are good, not great. They are capable of taking really good shots, but on the whole, nothing stands out with Apple’s cameras.
 
All those Galaxy's whistles and bells and yet STILL will get short OS updates & support which is why I brought iPhone 13 PM 256gb in October '22 because I know that it will get FIVE or more years of iOS updates.

But once the future iPhone gets the Space Zoom, I'm in!
 
So is the sensor 200 megapixels and they’re combining pixels to improve colors, low light, etc?

I think that’s what’s going on here. That gives a ton of headroom for a lot of computational photography, which is great, but it’s also a bit misleading. I don’t think this thing is outputting 200MP photos, those would be absolutely gigantic and have a huge amount of noise on such a small sensor (regardless of likely being one of the biggest on a phone) no?
 
As I like to say, there’s “competition”, and there’s meaningful competition. If you want to go up against Apple, it’s no longer enough to simply beat any one Apple product in one spec or another area. You have to match the entire ecosystem, and that’s a tall order for pretty much every other company out there.
It's not that difficult to do for Samsung. Their ecosystem includes everything Apple has and then some (like portable SSD drives, washers, dryers, refrigerators, etc.)
 
The image is only as good as the optical sensor. They are going after the uneducated customer. Also, image size, whether it's a good photo or not, will be ludicrous.

Width x Height, for easy math is approx 22,000 pixels by 12,500 to reach 200 MP. 24-bit JPEG is 40MB and lossless JPEG is 300MB.

No thanks.
 
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It's not that difficult to do for Samsung. Their ecosystem includes everything Apple has and then some (like portable SSD drives, washers, dryers, refrigerators, etc.)
That’s true. We have Samsung TVs, Samsung washer and dryer and like the integration with SmartThings. However, I would swap out the tv, washer and dryer in a NY second for something else or something better for that ecosystem is meaningless to me.

The iPhone ecosystem, very meaningful.
 
Nice and all, but it would take Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet taking out all iOS devices for me to use an Android device for anything other than occasionally for work (app/web testing).
 
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So is the sensor 200 megapixels and they’re combining pixels to improve colors, low light, etc?
Yes, but not only that.

Suppose you are drawing someone's face with a pencil.
Your reference photo looks blurry. You can "kinda" see the face, but not quite.

There are a few things you could do: grab another photo, or guess the overall structure of the face of the person you're drawing; borrow features from another person's photo; use a 3D model as a reference.

Will it look just like the original? Nope. But if you're very experienced and the conditions are just right, the results can look very close.

That's what cellphones do, but better. If the AI is there, they can guess the structure of someone's face and guess how the texture of your skin works, to a level that looks photorealistic – but the details aren't necessarily there, or if they are, they may not be 100% exactly like how things are in real life. But computers can be so close to real life it'll be hard for you to tell the difference.
 
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Samsung today announced the launch of its latest flagship smartphones, the 6.1-inch Galaxy S23, the 6.6-inch Galaxy S23+, and the 6.8-inch Galaxy S23 Ultra.


All three devices feature AMOLED displays with 120Hz refresh rates, and the Ultra has an edge-to-edge display similar to prior-generation models. The Galaxy S23 Ultra is equipped with a new 200-megapixel wide-angle camera, while the other two models use 50-megapixel cameras. There is also a 10-megapixel zoom camera, 12-megapixel ultra wide camera, and 12-megapixel front-facing selfie camera on each device.

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At 200 megapixels, the S23 Ultra surpasses the 48-megapixel camera in Apple's iPhone 14 Pro models, and it supports 8K video capture. As with the Galaxy S22 Ultra, the S23 Ultra includes 10x optical zoom through periscope lens technology, which Apple is rumored to be implementing with the iPhone 15 lineup.

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Samsung says that the camera in the Ultra is tailored for "nearly any lighting conditions," and is designed to provide "incredible detail." Nightography has been improved for sharper images and videos that have less noise in low-light conditions, and there is a new image signal processing algorithm that enhances color and detail.

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The selfie camera on the device includes fast autofocus, with Samsung referring to it as a "Super HDR selfie camera" with 60 frames per second video recording. Other camera features include doubled optical image stabilization, 360 audio recording, and object-based AI that analyzes each detail in a frame to "carefully reflect a person's dynamic characteristics.

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Up to 1TB of storage is available, and the battery in the S23 Ultra comes in at 5,000mAh. Other Galaxy S23 Ultra features include IP68 water resistance, Gorilla Glass Victus 2 for the display, an accompanying S Pen, Wi-Fi 6E support, a fingerprint sensor, and facial recognition.

The smartphones use the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 Mobile Platform from Qualcomm, which means they will be compatible with the satellite connectivity feature that Qualcomm announced last year.

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Colors this year include Phantom Black, Cream, Green, and Lavender, with pre-orders available on Samsung's website, with Samsung offering free storage upgrades and bonus Samsung Credit for use on additional purchases for those who pre-order. Best Buy is also offering special carrier promotions on the new phones.

Pricing on the S23 Ultra starts at $1,200, pricing on the S23+ starts at $1,000, and pricing on the S23 starts at $800.

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Article Link: Samsung Announces New Galaxy S23 Ultra With 200-Megapixel Camera
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Samsung relies on suckers that don't understand how megapixels work and assume that 8K resolution means better video. More numbers mean it must be better right? Seriously I get if you don't want to spend money or are going through hard times you'd buy an Android phone but I have never understood why someone chooses to buy a Android over iPhone.
 
Pretty impressive phone and tech! Apple really showed them how to do it! Even their presentations follow Apple keynotes so closely. Why is that?

The Snapdragon Gen2 outperforms the A16 in benchmark tests, but runs hotter, which means more wasted energy! From a pure performance-per-watt basis (less heat), the A16 still rules the roost.
 
Samsung relies on suckers that don't understand how megapixels work and assume that 8K resolution means better video. More numbers mean it must be better right? Seriously I get if you don't want to spend money or are going through hard times you'd buy an Android phone but I have never understood why someone chooses to buy a Android over iPhone.

That's true — more does not equal better. The same goes for the RAM addicts. BUT, by pushing the boundaries of technology, all ships rise with the tide. We end up with better tech in the end, so I have no problem with them boasting about 200 megapixel cameras.
 
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It's not that difficult to do for Samsung. Their ecosystem includes everything Apple has and then some (like portable SSD drives, washers, dryers, refrigerators, etc.)

There are some great things Samsung can do in their own ecosystm. But for Apple, I like the little things. Like that you can pair bluetooth devices once and they will be paired automatically with any iOS or Mac device. Or that you can make a true, complete backup of your phone or iPad, then restore it another device, and every app, screen layout, everything, is there as you left it. Just a few passwords have to be re-entered. It make moving to s new phone every year easy. Android won't back up to 99 percent like Apple, unless you root it. Which then can make OS upgrades a pain.

Plus, I have a video library of thousands of movies and TV shows, much of it based on iTunes downloads. No DRM issues with putting them on iOS devices. For Android, I have to rip DRM out of them to use them. I always thought Apple made a mistake by not allowing Android devices to play Apple DRM content or port Apple TV over. They are missng out on millions more subscribers.
 
Companies that make actual cameras gave up on the megapixel wars long ago. 100MP on a medium-format sensor is all the detail you'll ever need. 200MP in a sensor the size of a pinky fingernail is just.... noise.

Those 200MB raw files must be fun though!
 
Samsung relies on suckers that don't understand how megapixels work and assume that 8K resolution means better video. More numbers mean it must be better right? Seriously I get if you don't want to spend money or are going through hard times you'd buy an Android phone but I have never understood why someone chooses to buy a Android over iPhone.

The same can be said of Apple, who rely on suckers to keep upgrading minimally changed devices year after year.
 
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