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Just think, maybe someday Apple watches will finally be round too.
I like the s3 frontier and would buy one but the LTe doesn't work in the UK as none of the networks use the built in SIM thing. Guess it'll be the same for the LTE Apple watch in the UK....
 
Can't really compare the two since they cater to different segments of consumers.

...exactly, there are different types of wireless headphones that serve different segments of consumers, which means that your blanket assessment was incorrect: not all wireless headphones' purpose is to be hidden.
 
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In wearables? I don't think so.

If that was the logic to follow then how would news develop? Imagine if this was a phone forum in 2007 and you said the same about Apple releasing an upcoming phone? In this case Samsung is technically a competitor, albeit a weak one. I think it's a fair bet to say that a lot of people who are interested in Apple tech are also interested in the other big companies that share the market.
 
this is some hideous gear. I can not believe somebody would pay money for it, but maybe they give it for free as accessory?
 
If that was the logic to follow then how would news develop? Imagine if this was a phone forum in 2007 and you said the same about Apple releasing an upcoming phone? In this case Samsung is technically a competitor, albeit a weak one. I think it's a fair bet to say that a lot of people who are interested in Apple tech are also interested in the other big companies that share the market.

Your own example cites "a phone forum" which sounds inherently manufacturer agnostic. This is not what "Macrumors" sounds to me like. Look, I get that there are people who want to know about all of this stuff, but I don't think this should be the place for it. General tech sites (Verge, Engadget etc.) should be general, specific tech sites (Macrumos, Android Police ...) should be specific. IMO.
 
I don't see one example of bad design here. All of these are examples of design/form following function. There is no other/better way to quickly charge a pencil/stylus while on the go or away from a charger. Why compromise the design of a wireless mouse 99,9% of the time (i.e. while in use) with a front connector if you can hide the connector and make a short break while it charges? The battery case feels amazing in hand. And a bulge is a small price to pay for a better camera. Think different.


Or you could just buy a mouse that you can use when charging..

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That is form following function..
 
Your own example cites "a phone forum" which sounds inherently manufacturer agnostic. This is not what "Macrumors" sounds to me like. Look, I get that there are people who want to know about all of this stuff, but I don't think this should be the place for it. General tech sites (Verge, Engadget etc.) should be general, specific tech sites (Macrumos, Android Police ...) should be specific. IMO.

I really don't think you have much of an argument, since you have been A forum member since 2002, Then you should inherently know how MacRumors reports various forms of technology through out. Furthermore, there likely is not enough iMac, MacBook Pro and/or other related news just strictly talk about those topics all the time. Even the authors themselves have commented that they try to branch out on different topics that would appeal to a mass demographic, not just one target topic for a specific audience.
 
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I don't like the look of those Gear Sport. The Gear S3 Classic and Frontier watch looks way better.
I have an Apple Watch 2 and my son has a Samsung Gear S3 Frontier. I have to admit I like his better than my AW2.
 
Your own example cites "a phone forum" which sounds inherently manufacturer agnostic. This is not what "Macrumors" sounds to me like. Look, I get that there are people who want to know about all of this stuff, but I don't think this should be the place for it. General tech sites (Verge, Engadget etc.) should be general, specific tech sites (Macrumos, Android Police ...) should be specific. IMO.

It looks like at least the one of the watches can run on iOs, I'm guessing all 3 of these products actually can but not sure. Even if you don't feel Samsung wearables are enough of a competitor, which I think I have to disagree especially with how wearables are still in its infancy, at minimum one of these products can be used with ios so plenty relevant enough to be on Macrumors.
 
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Wow, Samsung. Definitely have to make some new purchases soon. The new Samsung Gear Sport and Bluetooth Gear IconX earbuds are must haves. The offline Spotify is a great addition as well. Technology at its greatest IMO. Once again, Samsung never fails to give customers what they actually want. BTW the airpods are the ugliest earbuds on the planet; the design looks like it came from the 90s and one hideous white color with far less capabilities than Samsungs new IconX earbuds (read those specifications and then come back and complain).
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I don't like the way those Watches look at all. I can appreciate the round design, but those look very minimalistic for Those who may appreciate that.

The Gear S3 Frontier had a bold style to it that I found more appealing:

Then buy the Gear S3 Frontier...it will not be discontinued anytime soon.
 
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I don't like the way those Watches look at all. I can appreciate the round design, but those look very minimalistic for Those who may appreciate that.

On the other hand, Wired magazine found it to be an attractive fitness watch.

I wonder where they got the ring idea from..

Could be from the same place Apple did: the donut chart with concentric rings, which has been around since at least the turn of the century.

look, we have activity bars on samsung now, circles and all.

Circles make more sense on a round watch.
 
On the other hand, Wired magazine found it to be an attractive fitness watch.

Naturally there will be different opinions, but form wise, I don't find them attractive, as I did list the Gear S3 Frontier being more robust and bold in style. But that's just my preference, as other opinions will vary, even that over another tech site.
 
More the other way around, I think. AirPods just make you look very silly. The whole point of going wireless is to hide the ear pieces, and these do just that.

I've seen a number of these out in the field now, and they look fine on some people, not great ind you, and on others they look ridiculous. I've narrowed it down to Apple not updating the design of the EarPods to accommodate the AirPod's new wireless look. The stems would be fine if they simply curved and fit the counter of the face a little better. They no longer need to be straight, as receptacles for the wires, they can now mold to the face a bit better, likely enhancing the function in the process. Black APs might look slightly better, but again, it's the sticking out from the head that makes them look odd. It's even worse when one side sits differently than the other, for no apparent reason than the shape of one's ears, or placement at that moment. Then it just looks cock-eyed.
 
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Yeah no.
The fitness tracker doesn’t look too bad, but that round abomination ...they need to forget that form factor and leave it to timex and the last century
 
Rather than potties... the Gear IconX earbuds made me think of an aquatic avian society.

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Ha! I thought that, too!

I own some IconX earbuds. Thank goodness they came free with the S7 my husband ordered me for Christmas because I'd hate it if he had paid hard-earned money for them. They don't just fall out of my ears, they sort of eject themselves and go flying no matter which tips I've tried on them. And the sound was weak and tinny. Another forum member had said theirs were good so maybe I got a bad set of earbuds but if so, I am not alone according to reviews I've read. AirPods may look kind of goofy but they stay put and do work well. Let's hope they've really improved this generation.

Tizen is a good OS for watches. My husband and I have no complaints about the software aspect of any of the Samsung watches we own. Where they've failed so far with their previous sport model is the band and how it attaches to the watch. It's weak and awkward and prone to breaking. I find myself slightly more prone to mild heat rashes in the summer when wearing their watches. I think Apple is just more attentive to materials selection and practical design than Samsung, so far. But I'd like to take a look at these new watches, see what they're made of and how practical they are. The blue one looks like fun. Samsung does learn from customer feedback and adjusts their designs accordingly.
 
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square watches are much cooler then round. looks more modern with the form following the function. apple has already learned it will not be a 'high fashion' (aka $6k) device.
 
I've got a pair of the original version which I only use for running and they're excellent for that - the built in memory means I can play music without my Phone (I use a Garmin running watch) and they are very small and very comfortable.

I've also got a pair of AirPods which are much better for general use, but the Icons beat the AirPods hands down for running IMO

I've been seriously looking into a fitness smartwatch and thought the Samsung Gear Fit 2 would be nice to have because I'm a fencer and walk a lot. The heartbeat sensor is vital for me because I suffered pneumonia two years ago with blood oxygen dropping that gave me a scare, although the oximeter is more important ( I'm quite angry at Apple for not having an oximeter built in the Watch. That's something people need ). Although I've read that the Apple Watch heart rate sensors aren't as accurate as they're claimed to be.

Plus being deaf, having notifications with vibrations are handy to have. I discovered that the Gear Fit 2 works with iOS and Android which is nice but the drawback was that certain features would be limited. The Tizen OS for the Gear Fit 2 is beautifully rendered and this device is something that Apple should have done a few years ago with a simplified watch that's more focused with a 3-4 day battery instead of 12 crappy hours.

Plus, it's far cheaper than the Apple Watch. And more practical without the 'fashion house' crap.

The other option I have been looking at is the Garmin Vivosmart 3 which is more comfortable and has better sensors compared to, say, Fitbit Charge 2 ( although that one is something I was looking into ).

But I'm glad Samsung's got the Gear Fit 2 Pro out now which should have some significant improvements and have better battery life, more improved iOS features unlocked, etc.

Here's the interesting thing I noticed. In Apple Watch, you can do quick replies via text messages on it but on Samsung's Gear Fit 2, you can't and it only works for Android ( I read Apple closed it off to them or restricted the company to certain things ). It makes me wonder if Pebble back then already figured out how to do the text replies on their watch for iOS and Android, how hard can that be for Samsung to open it up for iOS, or Apple, vice versa, to Android?

It sounds like there was a mutual agreement 'behind the scenes' between Samsung and Apple to restrict certain features even though they could easily open them up if they wanted to. This is one reason why I don't like Apple Watch because of feature 'overkill' and the high price tag. EDIT: And especially the 'entrapment' of a walled garden by investment. If Apple Watch was Android compatible, that would have opened up more doors for them. Closing the watch off to just iOS is, honestly, the stupidest thing they've ever done.

If Apple had went with a cheaper activity band like Samsung Gear Fit 2, I think it would have done better with less crap thrown in the watch.

The design for the Gear Fit 2 is subjective and I think it looks fine. It makes sense due to the large screen size for readability and the touch gestures for it. Same goes for the S3's rotating bezels which is genius. I can't believe Apple missed out on that design, opting for the crown which I think defeats the purpose of a touchscreen watch.

I know that Watch OS 4 is supposed to have more activities listed which has fencing in it, but I'm very leery on how accurate it can be in detecting the movement automatically. I don't care about checking emails, using siri, and other trivial apps on the watch when I can do it on the phone. I think Gear Fit 2's longer battery life had to do with it having fewer applications with more focus even though it's a color screen while Apple Watch had too many apps at once which sucks a lot of juice, even GPS.
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Or you could just buy a mouse that you can use when charging..

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That is form following function..

THIS is exactly what Apple should've done with their Magic Mouse for charging on front of it. It's shocking that Jony approved the other design, getting the greenlight from Cook. That shows sheer laziness coming from Apple. They're getting away with stupid design choices without getting called out by the consumers. And Cook and his execs know it.

That, right there, is a proper mouse.
 
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While I truly love my S3 LTE, Samsung’s impeccable complacency towards updates and enhancements will have me looking elsewhere for a smartwatch now!
 
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Apple can make the ugliest and non logical products and they won't be doomed because right now Apple is cool. Also a lot of people don't like change and stick with Apple products because that's what they know how to use and are used to it.

Not saying Apple products aren't good but they sell no matter what because a lot of their customers will buy them because it's an Apple product. Not necessarily because it's the best device on the market.

I don't know about you, but I find charging the Apple Pencil via the lightning port very convenient and clever. It's the only way I charge it. The lightning adaptor is still sitting unwrapped in the original packaging.

I guess i don't see what all the fuss is about. Seems I get a lot of lazy and alarmist reactions about how Apple is supposedly losing the plot when it comes to design and innovation, then I get the actual product and try it out and the experience is so completely opposite of what the critics and detractors here would have you believe.
 
Apple can make the ugliest and non logical products and they won't be doomed because right now Apple is cool. Also a lot of people don't like change and stick with Apple products because that's what they know how to use and are used to it.

Not saying Apple products aren't good but they sell no matter what because a lot of their customers will buy them because it's an Apple product. Not necessarily because it's the best device on the market.
That's not true. It's just that Apple understands their customers and their customers relate to Apple's design. Obviously most of the world doesn't buy Apple for one reason or another. But hundreds of millions do because Apple taps into design cues that set and then also buck the trends. They don't follow fads and copy like Samsung typically does. And I'm not talking about specs.
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How about it!!!!! You think Samsungs are monstrosities?????? Come on!!!!!
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There are two photo's of really nice wireless headphones. They are form fitting, stay secure in your ear, almost mold to ear canal. Then you have two pictures of what a monstrosity really is!!!!! You got one pair that look kind of like Uhura's ear piece in Star trek, that sticks out of your ear and falls out. And you have Apples awful design of hard plastic. Even if it didnt have that stupid piece, it would be nice to have something that kind of form fit to my ear. You know, like every other in ear head set in existence!!!!! Im not saying they have to go with the crowd but there's a reason for certain designs. It just sucks that we dont know how long we have to wait until Apple admits this design sucks and chooses something that "just works"
I'm not seeing your point. Samsung's look like giant Uhura earpieces to me too. That's why Apple's look so sleek, because they are compared to all others regardless of fit. If the don't fit you then that's not good for you but that doesn't mean they don't fit millions of customers' ears like mine. I honestly think they're ahead of competition by a few years. After all, it's not like any brand of earbuds are going to get larger the way phone screens do over time. That turns off some people but I don't see them changing the AirPods design anytime soon. It's already iconic.
 
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