Samsung Bashes iPad's Screen, Lack of Multitasking in New Galaxy Tab S Ads

[brewcitywi]

We'll see

When the "SF" stickers hit product boxes, we can see what the consumer thinks. Keep us informed and we will make the product choices.

 

[shenan1982]

With iOS 8, Apple is introducing some of the best new (to iOS) features they have in years. I'm not sure what you were looking for, but the update looks to be great- extensions, continuity, a new way of developing Apps, higher performance for games (Metal), 3rd party keyboards, iCloud drive, and a whole host of smaller improvements. Seems like a pretty exciting update. And Apple still has some of the best overall hardware and performance. So, "too late" for what, exactly?

I love how you even caveat'd the new "to iOS" because almost everything you've cited about being new in iOS 8 are features android has had for at least a year, some for years. By the time we're caught up with 2013, they're on 2015 features.

It's prime example of how Apple is just keeping up to stay afloat. It used to be people would look to iPhone and say "wow, a phone can do that?" ... and now they have androids and say "why doesn't your phone do that?"

 

[nando87]

When the "SF" stickers hit product boxes, we can see what the consumer thinks. Keep us informed and we will make the product choices.

If you use that kind of measure I have to tell you that consumers think that they prefer mid and low range androids above all, look at the market share.

 

[PocketSand11]

Two people using the same device at once: Works for an N64 controller, not a tablet.

 

[shenan1982]

You're simply wrong on this one.

Samsung should be and will be worried.

It's them (and not Apple), that are forecasting lower than expected earnings.

The Galaxy S5 has not been as well received as they would have liked and the iPhone 6 is likely to light up all of our TVs and radios come September, with reports that sales are (again) nothing short of astounding.

I completely disagree. The GS5 has done phenomenal... as did the 4 and 3 and 2, you just don't hear about people lining up to get them because nobody has to. They don't manipulate the supply (and leak articles about constraints and pie in the sky production figures). You can't compare the release hype, Apple is better at marketing.

If you don't see a shift in people's usage habits moving from iOS to Android, then you're living in a bubble, and certainly don't travel. If you go ANYWHERE outside the US\UK\France, you'll see the world has moved to Android (used to be Nokia, BB, then Apple). Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I still love my iPhone, my point is merely that you're fooling yourself if you don't see the continual decline in marketshare in comparison to Android if Apple doesn't kick the innovation train into gear.

It's disappointing to read all the comments on this thread. People have come to accept apple's complacency I suppose... which is bad because when you are ok with a battery that's substandard in the industry.... when you're ok with no screen options... when you're ok with a screen smaller and lower quality... when you're ok with not having features like no-touch voice activation, there's no motivation for a company to provide it. And that's a sad state. People complain about Apple not innovating, yet it's because people have become sheep (I too, because I bought iPhone 5S blindly even though there's clearly better hardware out there)... but like everything else in todays world, the future is driven by Chinese consumers... indian consumers, southeast asian and latin american consumers, and not Americans, and ALL of them are on the Android side.

 

[FieldingMellish]

Samsungs ads are just so stupid and childish.

 

[shenan1982]

Lots of ******** fanboys on this thread...

I hate Samsung as much as the next guy, and for the life of me I'll NEVER UNDERSTAND why most every hardware company out there relies on someone else to write s*** software for their products. That said...

- Mutitasking is a feature I'd love to see come to iOS. I applaud Samsung for advertising this, as it helps to force Apple's hand in implementing yet another long overdue feature.

- I personally LOVE AMOLED displays as well. Seeing how gray my blacks look on iDevices is very disappointing when you know something better is out there. Jobs seemed to have a personal beef with OLED technology. True those screens tend to be calibrated more bluish in hue, but that could easily be solved by LETTING ME CALIBRATE MY OWN SCREEN!!!

Samsung made a couple ads. Get over it. Maybe it'll help Apple improve their stuff.

Precisely. Too many people defending a company they can see doing no wrong? How's your all day battery? Good if you have SGS5. How's the no-touch voice activation? Good if you have SGS5. How's those widgets? Good if you have SGS5. How's the complete customization without root\jailbreak? Good if you have SGS5. How's the screen? Good if you have any high end Android. But then again you could say Samsung is a terrible company for releasing a "what we have: benefits" ad... I guess they should hi light their apps like Apple does... good to know I can look at the constellations on my Apple phone, can't do that on Android.. oh wait, yes I could... but what about all those other fancy apps in the iOS commercials? What, there's a piano app for Android too? No way?

 

[avanpelt]

"It's not a Super AMOLED..."

Yeah, I'm sure that's going to resonate with the average consumer.

Samsung -- I love their TVs, but their phone and tablet commercials are awful. Come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I saw a commercial for a Samsung TV. Maybe they should adopt that strategy with their phones and tablets, as well.

 

[shenan1982]

Samsungs ads are just so stupid and childish.

Yeah, Apple has such a rich history of such adult and non-attacking ads...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZSBWbnmGrE

How short memory people have. It was Apple who first made the attack-the-competition advertisement model in the tech industry. I laughed back then because half the features people wanted (decent battery) lacked back then every competitor had it.

How quickly people forget Apple's behavior. Oh thats right, they can do no wrong. Samsung can advertise competitive advantages, Apple can't. Samsung can't attack the lack of features of the competition, but Apple can.

 

[nando87]

Yeah, Apple has such a rich history of such adult and non-attacking ads...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZSBWbnmGrE

How short memory people have. It was Apple who first made the attack-the-competition advertisement model in the tech industry. I laughed back then because half the features people wanted (decent battery) lacked back then every competitor had it.

How quickly people forget Apple's behavior. Oh thats right, they can do no wrong. Samsung can advertise competitive advantages, Apple can't. Samsung can't attack the lack of features of the competition, but Apple can.

Yes but those were different because nonsense this nonsense that and apple this and apple that and jony ive has a stylish british accent you know. They can't be compared as all of we know....

My respect for samsung increases every time I enter this forum...

 

[shenan1982]

Yes but those were different because nonsense this nonsense that and apple this and apple that and jony ive has a stylish british accent you know. They can't be compared as all of we know....

My respect for samsung increases every time I enter this forum...

HEHE. At first I thought you were defending that Apple did it first, yet people only seem to go after Apple for bashing the competition. Then I kept reading and realized your sarcasm, hehe.

I agree... Samsung is doing it right. They're innovating. They are doing exactly what Microsoft is doing.. creating a product to fill the gaps where iPad and iPhone fall short. Responding to what consumers want is critical to long-term success. See Blackberry? Prime example of apple-like behavior. "We will do what was successful TODAY and last year because it worked... no need to change" ... and look where that got RIM... lol.

Apple's already lost the war in the rest of the world. The US is the last small pocket of hold-outs that haven't gone Android by the masses, likely partly because of carrier subsidy availability.... but that's becoming less and less of an issue as more carriers promote non-contract or at least non-2 year discounting models.

 

[Trapezoid]

I completely disagree. The GS5 has done phenomenal... as did the 4 and 3 and 2, you just don't hear about people lining up to get them because nobody has to. They don't manipulate the supply (and leak articles about constraints and pie in the sky production figures). You can't compare the release hype, Apple is better at marketing.

Your statements are so funny. You just state things as facts when the facts disagree with you. The S5 did great at first and now it's not selling. You know how I know that? Cuz Samsung said so: http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-orders-2014-7

The iphone is still selling like hotcakes. They just sold 51 million in the past qtr.

I'm not sure where you're getting your information from but you've been lied to blatantly.

If you don't see a shift in people's usage habits moving from iOS to Android, then you're living in a bubble, and certainly don't travel. If you go ANYWHERE outside the US\UK\France, you'll see the world has moved to Android (used to be Nokia, BB, then Apple). Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I still love my iPhone, my point is merely that you're fooling yourself if you don't see the continual decline in marketshare in comparison to Android if Apple doesn't kick the innovation train into gear.

The marketshare decline indicates NOTHING other than more competition for Apple. There is no other proof out there that people are leaving Apple, especially when their sales are growing not declining.

It's disappointing to read all the comments on this thread. People have come to accept apple's complacency I suppose... which is bad because when you are ok with a battery that's substandard in the industry.... when you're ok with no screen options... when you're ok with a screen smaller and lower quality... when you're ok with not having features like no-touch voice activation, there's no motivation for a company to provide it. And that's a sad state.

Or people like the iPhone. What a concept.

People complain about Apple not innovating, yet it's because people have become sheep (I too, because I bought iPhone 5S blindly even though there's clearly better hardware out there)... but like everything else in todays world, the future is driven by Chinese consumers... indian consumers, southeast asian and latin american consumers, and not Americans, and ALL of them are on the Android side.

All of them? You sure? Source?

 

[nando87]

HEHE. At first I thought you were defending that Apple did it first, yet people only seem to go after Apple for bashing the competition. Then I kept reading and realized your sarcasm, hehe.

I agree... Samsung is doing it right. They're innovating. They are doing exactly what Microsoft is doing.. creating a product to fill the gaps where iPad and iPhone fall short. Responding to what consumers want is critical to long-term success. See Blackberry? Prime example of apple-like behavior. "We will do what was successful TODAY and last year because it worked... no need to change" ... and look where that got RIM... lol.

Apple's already lost the war in the rest of the world. The US is the last small pocket of hold-outs that haven't gone Android by the masses, likely partly because of carrier subsidy availability.... but that's becoming less and less of an issue as more carriers promote non-contract or at least non-2 year discounting models.

I live in europe, and I had a galaxy s1 and then a s3 before buying an iphone. I think I'm neutral, and in addition I tend to be critical, not fanboyish.

Talking about the galaxy s3, I noticed several problems of course, the most importants being their customer service, the performance decrease of the os and the build quality. I think the os problem would be solved installing a pure android rom.

Then I bought an iphone 5s. The customer service and the build quality were incredible from my point of view, and it was agile, BUT the software felt ancient and the os was kind of amateur since I can't manage directly its files and so on, the notifications were very weird and everything was less intuitive, even being an ipad user before. The screen size was also quite disappointing.

What I want to say is that if you do the maths, both have more or less the same number of defects.

 

[Lancer]

Its always the same with Samsung, can't beat them so bash them.

Apple always does there ads with humor, even the I'm a Mac ads from years ago, they mostly said 'we can do that' letting people know that yes a Mac can run Office or go online and do email. I still can't believe people thought they couldn't.

Eve though it wasn't highlighted at the WDC I really hope the multi-tasking comes to the next iOS, to put that to rest once and for all.

 

[bearboy]

I fail to see why these Samsung ads are bothering people that much. Either it's a slow news day or some hardcore Apple enthusiasts have a really thin skin.

Let it go, it's a silly commercial. If it bothers some you that much I suggest getting another hobby.

 

[vvswarup]

I completely disagree. The GS5 has done phenomenal... as did the 4 and 3 and 2, you just don't hear about people lining up to get them because nobody has to. They don't manipulate the supply (and leak articles about constraints and pie in the sky production figures). You can't compare the release hype, Apple is better at marketing.

The credibility of your post tanked the moment you put out the claim that Apple is manipulating supply. It's such an asinine notion to think Apple would do that because if Apple is purposefully limiting supply, they're only hurting themselves because that's revenue that they're not allowing themselves to earn.

And you can't prove that Apple is responsible for leaking news about supply constraints or production figures. Apple can't control what a journalist or analyst writes.

Samsung was also fined for astroturfing wherein they paid bloggers to write negative reviews about competitors' products. Apple has never been fined for such practices.

Also, Samsung announced that it sold 11 million S5 units in the first month. Apple sold 9 million iPhone 5S units within the first three days of launching it. I'll let you be the judge of which product has done phenomenal.

 

[dec.]

Lots of ******** fanboys on this thread...

I hate Samsung as much as the next guy,

 

[theanimaster]

I'm pretty sure we'll see multi-tasking screens in iOS soon -- after all the same thing happened with notifications, right : P ?

As for the second commercial -- that was just purely retarded and moot. The iPad screen is nowhere near as crappy as they portray it. Contrast my ass. It'll only look like that if you had a crappily encoded video -- which you probably would if you had a Samsung product pirating crappy TS video torrents...

But yeah, even if you did pirate your stuff, you'd most probably have enough brains to be able to choose a good quality video -- oh but I forgot -- the content optimised for iPad is already good quality video.

Samsung needs to fire the moron who did the second commercial. It's just downright untrue -- they could have done a different angle that isn't so retarded.

 

[Trapezoid]

I'm pretty sure we'll see multi-tasking screens in iOS soon -- after all the same thing happened with notifications, right : P ?

As for the second commercial -- that was just purely retarded and moot. The iPad screen is nowhere near as crappy as they portray it. Contrast my ass. It'll only look like that if you had a crappily encoded video -- which you probably would if you had a Samsung product pirating crappy TS video torrents...

But yeah, even if you did pirate your stuff, you'd most probably have enough brains to be able to choose a good quality video -- oh but I forgot -- the content optimised for iPad is already good quality video.

Samsung needs to fire the moron who did the second commercial. It's just downright untrue -- they could have done a different angle that isn't so retarded.

Ah but remember they werent talking abuot the iPad, their biggest (and only competitor). So we can't really judge them on that.

Yes. People in this thread actually said that lol

 

[69Mustang]

I guess "insulting" by association? Because I can't see how making a commercial where "PC" gets more viruses somehow means that PC users contract more viruses. Apple was saying they catch the flu more or something in your view?

Could you do me a favor. Could you tell me how these PC's actually get these viruses? Osmosis? Photosynthesis? Because if these PC's spontaneously get viruses I'm going to unplug mine and run to get another MBA tomorrow.

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In the small print at the end of the video.

Certain images and video may be enhanced.

Am I to assume you just overlook these types of disclaimers in Apple ads?

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Companies just need a small SF on the outside if their products, as small as a TM or R. The small SF just assures customers that their product is, "Samsung Free."

If this could extend to all portable devices and even appliances, it would allow customers to truly be happy with their purchase, content that there are no Samsung parts inside.

We can also push Apple to make "Samsung free" products. I would love this, and I think that a lot of customers would search these products out...like an energy saver sticker.

Who is this clown?

-Apple placing another component order from Samsung.

 

[dazed]

I like many samsung products but these ads are terrible. I think it's the voice over artist. he just doesn't suit the material.

 

[RobertMartens]

Cause Mac VS PC commercial worked so well for apple!

Why do we keep getting this response?

Did you watch the PC vs Mac commercials?

They were adorable. The PC Guy was very nice guy, sometimes nicer than the Mac guy. (Sometimes not)

The message was always the same.

Some people are stuck with Windows. But it doesn't have to be you.

 

[RobertMartens]

I actually don't need a Samsung Ad to tell me that most Apple users are idiotic fanboys. For that, i only need to read some of the comments in here.

Wow you registered at this site just to tell us that?
We are all honored by your presence.
BUt I am afraid we won't be returning the favor.

 

[taptic]

Dear Samsung,

Go take a long walk on a short pier.

-Everyone with any amount of sense

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[tdale]

I live in europe, and I had a galaxy s1 and then a s3 before buying an iphone. I think I'm neutral, and in addition I tend to be critical, not fanboyish.

Talking about the galaxy s3, I noticed several problems of course, the most importants being their customer service, the performance decrease of the os and the build quality. I think the os problem would be solved installing a pure android rom.

Then I bought an iphone 5s. The customer service and the build quality were incredible from my point of view, and it was agile, BUT the software felt ancient and the os was kind of amateur since I can't manage directly its files and so on, the notifications were very weird and everything was less intuitive, even being an ipad user before. The screen size was also quite disappointing.

What I want to say is that if you do the maths, both have more or less the same number of defects.

Fair points. Post SJ its changing, not right away, but it is now, yes we are catching up with features, screen size, but its happening. iOS will get two screen multitasking although thats big for some and meh for others. May be great for some uses, though. We wont get the air thing that Samsung does as its useless, and while it seemed cool, it isn't useful in the end, and their implementation failed.

There are pros and cons both ways and its fair to criticise Apple for lagging features, but that lag is disappearing.