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Samsung Bashes iPad's Screen, Lack of Multitasking in New Galaxy Tab S Ads

kdarling said:
There's no dire need for audio on a football game, so yes that concept could be totally realistic.

However, that's not what was going on in the ad.

The child was watching a video, while the Dad was keeping track of the game on a web app:

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"You see, but you do not observe." - Sherlock Holmes
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You're one of the best commentators here, and as always have added something useful. I certainly didn't bother to look closely at exactly what was on the tablet screen; all I had time to notice was that the kid's movie was really small. I'm surprised he wasn't crying about that. :)

For what it's worth, I think being able to run two apps side-by-side would be great, and I hope iOS adds that feature. But I can't think of a worse example of how that would be useful than two people trying to watch video/animated content that overlaps for at least an hour and possibly up to an hour and half (however long a kid's movie can be).

Much better examples are mail and browser open at the same time, mail and calendar, chat app and any of those three, anything at all and baby monitor, and, well, like I said, just about any two other things you put together make more sense than what's in the ad.
 
Did Samsung really make a baby cry to advertise their product?!

If yes, it's child abuse.

If no (it's animation), then it's just false advertising (the baby would have been quite happy watching the football).

Checkmate Samsung.:p
 
Originally Posted by t76turbo View Post
Split screen would be awesome.

Email on one and Internet on other. I can see lots of other users. I wouldn't be bashing a feature like that.

I dont think anyone here is bashing that feature. Ive got an iPad Air, two split screens will be small, but I'm sure I would use that feature for a few things maybe. Not a biggie, but useful at times. The use case in the ad was ridiculous. If they want to bash Apple, at least give a useful example of a real use.
 
So Samsung is saying that on an LCD screen, you can't see a white shirt on a black background? :rolleyes:
 
shenan1982 said:
Yeah, Apple has such a rich history of such adult and non-attacking ads...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZSBWbnmGrE

How short memory people have. It was Apple who first made the attack-the-competition advertisement model in the tech industry. I laughed back then because half the features people wanted (decent battery) lacked back then every competitor had it.

How quickly people forget Apple's behavior. Oh thats right, they can do no wrong. Samsung can advertise competitive advantages, Apple can't. Samsung can't attack the lack of features of the competition, but Apple can.
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Thanks for the link. You reminded me how funny Apple's attack ads were, some of them hysterically funny and you also proved my earlier point.

That these Samsung ads are not funny, interesting, clever or even persuasive. I've seen better stuff in Advertising 101 LOL

The tech advantages are there, but the ads are just so lame that they're not going to help them sell anything but possibly to tech geeks.

In a nutshell, the ads are not catchy or funny. Whoever pitched the idea of a baby crying & a horror movie to sell a consumer product tech advantage should be FIRED!
 
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In my household we all have both an iPhone and an iPad. Looks like the paupers in the video can only afford one 2nd class device. No wonder the kid cries.
 
jarofclay73 said:
I love how that Samsung ad basically misinforms the public in believing that AMOLED is clearly superior to LCD IPS. Both have tradeoffs.

AMOLED has better blacks, as demonstrated in the Samsung ad. LCD IPS has better color reproduction and whites.
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Just saying: You don't watch the ad on an AMOLED screen, so they can't _demonstrate_ that it has better blacks in an ad. They have to create a very cleverly designed video that _makes the impression_ that one device has better blacks when viewed on a device that doesn't have better blacks.

It's like watching an ad for a phone with supposedly better sound on your TV. You can't hear the phone sound, you hear the sound of your TV. So they do things like increasing trebles to make you think you hear better sound.
 
alexburton1995 said:
If I don't do it on my computer which can multitask, I won't do it on my Tablet. Honestly do you multitask on your computer?:apple:
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I hardly do any multi-tasking on my computer.

It becomes extremely slow when I have both Xcode and Safari opened with about 4 tabs in it. I see the beach ball after almost every click. (I have a late 2011 MBP).
 
vvswarup said:
The credibility of your post tanked the moment you put out the claim that Apple is manipulating supply. It's such an asinine notion to think Apple would do that because if Apple is purposefully limiting supply, they're only hurting themselves because that's revenue that they're not allowing themselves to earn.
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That's something I never understood. If my friend Joe goes to an Apple Store to buy an iPhone, and they've sold out, some people actually believe this would be positive for Apple and would make them sell more. It doesn't. Joe didn't get an iPhone. He might buy something else, best case he buys an iPhone later which is no gain for Apple because he wanted to buy anyway. And can anyone explain how the fact that Joe didn't get a phone would make me want to buy one? If I didn't want one, I'll surely not go to a store that doesn't even have them to buy one. If I did want one, hearing from Joe will in the best case make me wait, in the worst case make me buy something else.
 
Renzatic said:
But he (Bob Dylan) didn't trademark it like Steve Jobs did.
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Steve Jobs was a _huge_ Bob Dylan fan. Owned all his records. So he quoted lyrics from an artist that he was a huge fan of. Like he quoted Pablo Picasso, the great artist who would not copy, but steal.

johnnyinternets said:
Are you seriously asking if people multi task on their computers???
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There is more and more of a trend for a computer to display _one_ application. Right now, I see the Safari browser and nothing else on my Mac. I can switch to other applications very quickly. Like I can on my iPad (four finger swipe, which Samsung fans have never heard of).
 
nando87 said:
I live in europe, and I had a galaxy s1 and then a s3 before buying an iphone. I think I'm neutral, and in addition I tend to be critical, not fanboyish.

Talking about the galaxy s3, I noticed several problems of course, the most importants being their customer service, the performance decrease of the os and the build quality. I think the os problem would be solved installing a pure android rom.

Then I bought an iphone 5s. The customer service and the build quality were incredible from my point of view, and it was agile, BUT the software felt ancient and the os was kind of amateur since I can't manage directly its files and so on, the notifications were very weird and everything was less intuitive, even being an ipad user before. The screen size was also quite disappointing.

What I want to say is that if you do the maths, both have more or less the same number of defects.
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Exactly. For what the iPhone does do, it does it pretty much better than anyone. This is, of course, subjective.

But the issue is that some people want more, and since Apple is sitting firmly on the "we don't give you what you want; we'll tell you what you get" side of the fence, they leave users like me looking for alternatives.

Google (and Sammy/etc) are sitting on the other side of that fence, going: "You want this? You got it. It may (or may not) be crude-ish, or not as smooth at first, but you got it". "We'll improve on it as we go along".

For me, at least today, Note 3 > iPhone, hands down. Not as smooth, or stable, but I can do more with it. For me, it's worth the trade off. For others, not so much. I see the Note 3 as a pocket computer, vs the iPhone being an appliance. There are pros and cons to both.

One thing is for sure, Android is getting better and better exponentially, so Apple needs to do something. If they gave us a pocket Mac in addition to an appliance (the current iPhone), then, and only then, would they be really taking the fight to Android.
 
melendezest said:
One thing is for sure, Android is getting better and better exponentially, so Apple needs to do something. If they gave us a pocket Mac in addition to an appliance (the current iPhone), then, and only then, would they be really taking the fight to Android.
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Not really. I have been using Android 4.0 to now 4.4...
Don't think it's getting better "exponentially". That's an exaggeration.

And where are you for WWDC? Did you not see iOS 8?
Sorry. Desktop OS won't make it to the phone as of now.
 
69Mustang said:
Am I to assume you just overlook these types of disclaimers in Apple ads?:rolleyes:
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I suppose it depends on what it was that was being advertised.

If the feature being advertised and the enhancements being made were closely related, then it might be a problem (such as enhancing colours when advertising the colours of the screen, or enhancing transition speeds when advertising the speed and fluidity of the OS).

On the other hand, if the enhancements and advertised features aren't as closely related (enhancing colours or transitions but advertising wi-fi calling), it might not be as “grave”.

Who is this clown?

-Apple placing another component order from Samsung.
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Yeah... a little too much from him. Once would have been enough, but he repeated that SF thing so many times in the thread...
 
Freida said:
Is it true about the AMOLED? Can we expect it soon from Apple too or is Samsung just doing a marketing gimmick?
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It is true about AMOLED. It uses less power because it doesn't need a backlight. It also has a much higher contrast ratio and richer color saturation.

As far as we know Apple has no plans to use AMOLED screens.

People an criticise Samsung all they like, but they have the best consumer display technology in the world.
 
talk about kids becoming unable to concentrate. Imagine them splitting an 11 inch screen with a father that's incapable of reading a newspaper or a book while letting his child watch a film in peace. Looks like a very stressed family.
 
shenan1982 said:
I completely disagree. The GS5 has done phenomenal... as did the 4 and 3 and 2, you just don't hear about people lining up to get them because nobody has to. They don't manipulate the supply (and leak articles about constraints and pie in the sky production figures). You can't compare the release hype, Apple is better at marketing.
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"Phenomenal" yes?

Samsung Smartphone Sales Plummet As Company Issues Earnings Warning

Samsung Smartphone Sales Plummet as Company Issues Earnings Warning
Samsung smartphone sales in the second three months of 2014 have plummeted as the company says its earnings will be "not that good".IBTimes UK

Samsung has said earnings this quarter will be "not that good" as smartphone shipments are expected to drop by almost 10 million units compared to the last quarter - despite the launch of the company's flagship Galaxy S5 smartphone.

The comment - first reported by the South Korean media and since confirmed by Samsung - is attributed to the company's chief financial officer Lee Sang Hoon who was asked about the company's second quarter earnings, which are not due to be reported for another month.

However some reports suggest the electronics giant could report preliminary figures as soon as next week.

According to estimates from IBK Securities Samsung's smartphone shipments in the second three months of 2014 fell to 78 million units, down significantly from the 87.5 million units it shipped in first quarter of 2014.

"Strengthening competitiveness of local players in emerging markets are hurting sales of Samsung's lower-end smartphones," Jin Sung Hae, an analyst at KTB Investment & Securities, said in a report today according to Bloomberg, after cutting profit estimate by 10% to 7.99 trillion won (£4.6 billion). "The main reason behind the lowered earnings estimate largely stemmed from weak smartphone sales."

Galaxy S5 sales

While shipments have dropped compared to last quarter, they are likely to be flat when compared to this time last year, though this will be seen as a problem considering that the smartphone market is continuing to grow.

Samsung is the world's biggest smartphone manufacturer but has seen growth in this market slow in the last year, with sales of its flagship Galaxy S4 smartphone not meeting expectation.

The company launched its Galaxy S5 smartphone at the end of February at Mobile World Congress and the phone went on sale around the world in April. While there were reports that the company sold 10 million units in under four weeks, these have not been confirmed by the company.

According to a recent graph published by @SomosPostPC, Samsung has cut the price of its Galaxy S5 smartphone much faster than it has done with any of the previous two Galaxy S or Note models, offering discounts of up to 30% less than three months after launch.

Samsung has also been trying to boost sales by offering free accessories worth hundreds of pounds - including the company's Gear Fit tracker - as an incentive to buy the Galaxy S5, something it has never done before this close to launch.
Samsung is being challenged at the premium end of the market by the likes of Apple, HTC, Sony and LG while at the budget end of the smartphone market it is facing increased challenges from low cost Chinese manufacturers like Xiaomi, who are expanding fast and offering premium hardware at budget prices.
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Try as I might, I don't interpret any of that article as describing "phenomenal" sales.

shenan1982 said:
If you don't see a shift in people's usage habits moving from iOS to Android, then you're living in a bubble, and certainly don't travel. If you go ANYWHERE outside the US\UK\France, you'll see the world has moved to Android (used to be Nokia, BB, then Apple). Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I still love my iPhone, my point is merely that you're fooling yourself if you don't see the continual decline in marketshare in comparison to Android if Apple doesn't kick the innovation train into gear.
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You appear to be confusing Samsung with the Android O/S.

shenan1982 said:
It's disappointing to read all the comments on this thread. People have come to accept apple's complacency I suppose... which is bad because when you are ok with a battery that's substandard in the industry.... when you're ok with no screen options... when you're ok with a screen smaller and lower quality... when you're ok with not having features like no-touch voice activation, there's no motivation for a company to provide it. And that's a sad state. People complain about Apple not innovating, yet it's because people have become sheep (I too, because I bought iPhone 5S blindly even though there's clearly better hardware out there)... but like everything else in todays world, the future is driven by Chinese consumers... indian consumers, southeast asian and latin american consumers, and not Americans, and ALL of them are on the Android side.
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That's right-"All" of them, every single last one of them. :rolleyes:
 
shenan1982 said:
I completely disagree. The GS5 has done phenomenal... as did the 4 and 3 and 2, you just don't hear about people lining up to get them because nobody has to. They don't manipulate the supply (and leak articles about constraints and pie in the sky production figures). You can't compare the release hype, Apple is better at marketing.

If you don't see a shift in people's usage habits moving from iOS to Android, then you're living in a bubble, and certainly don't travel. If you go ANYWHERE outside the US\UK\France, you'll see the world has moved to Android (used to be Nokia, BB, then Apple). Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I still love my iPhone, my point is merely that you're fooling yourself if you don't see the continual decline in marketshare in comparison to Android if Apple doesn't kick the innovation train into gear.

It's disappointing to read all the comments on this thread. People have come to accept apple's complacency I suppose... which is bad because when you are ok with a battery that's substandard in the industry.... when you're ok with no screen options... when you're ok with a screen smaller and lower quality... when you're ok with not having features like no-touch voice activation, there's no motivation for a company to provide it. And that's a sad state. People complain about Apple not innovating, yet it's because people have become sheep (I too, because I bought iPhone 5S blindly even though there's clearly better hardware out there)... but like everything else in todays world, the future is driven by Chinese consumers... indian consumers, southeast asian and latin american consumers, and not Americans, and ALL of them are on the Android side.
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You are the one that lives in a bubble. Not only did Apple never sold as many products, especially phones, but in Europe iPhones are still a novelty, only starting to take off, while Android is everywhere thanks to Galaxy Ace and Y kind of models.

There's not even an Apple Store in some countries. Few years ago, absolutely no one had a Mac.

Now my university looks like a orchard.

Oh, and if you agree or disagree is irrelevant, Samsung Mobile is really going down (be it sales or profits), as mentioned. In fact, you are so full of ****, that your whole post is irrelevant.

You talk like if Apple is selling less, they are on the decline, iPhone was the thing but now it's Android, when factually is the opposite. Apple was 0 outside of the US, UK and France. Now, despite market share numbers, they are only going up in sales. You can't justify that, because you are lying.

Apple: Selling more and more phones, only high end, going up.
Samsung: Was the best selling phone maker in the US prior to 2010, second worldwide. Now, after explosive growth in smartphones (especially low end, as mobile phones started to become smart phones), they (the whole gigantic electronics devision, that includes samsung mobile) are in the third straight quarter of huge yearly declines, blaming almost exclusively Samsung Mobile (phones and tablets).

Then People talk about the myth of subpar battery life on iPhones, when they have the best on high end phones (or close) on WIFI browsing, 4g browsing, every task with screen on. How's that? It's just that on Android people quickly learned (since 1.6) that they have to disable everything (GPS, mobile data, tracking, BT, sync and more than ever, on this generation: Brightness). Most iPhone users don't bother, as I experienced when some Americans came to Portugal (ERASMUS?) for studying and asked me to set their WIFI. They never turned those things off.

Do that on any galaxy, and look at those amazing 2 hours of battery life.
 
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Samsung adds

Well, Samsung appears to be the new Panasonic. We all know where Panasonic went: the average, mainstream stuff from microwaves to batteries or TV-sets. I don't like to see the same logo on my smartphone while I'm looking at my fish dish or when I'm opening the door of my wash machine. Missing that bit of dedication and specialization also killed Pananonic and brought them into a 'too big too fail' kind of financial picture. God, save Apple from going that same way, ever.
 
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