Samsung Bashes iPhone Battery Life, Calls Users 'Wall Huggers' in New Galaxy S5 Ad

[0dev]

Here, for your reading and viewing pleasure:

Galaxy S5 vs. the cheap Moto E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P9vDAY0U0A#t=325

So you can flash your Samsung. You can also flush it down the toilet, since it's waterproof.

Really, all devices can be modified, jail broken, etc. So what is your point?

But my personal all time favorite: it took *minutes* for the Gallery App to open on the Note 3. While at the same the benchmarks were tempered. That shows, where the priorities of Samsung were/are. Priceless.

Note 3 review - Ars Technica

I'm sorry, i know I am opinionated. After a total of 3 Galaxy devices in our household me and my wife came to the conclusion that there are better Android Choices out there. Not that overhyped, over marketed Samsung crap.

I see no major lag in that video. Like I said, .1 millisecond lag compared to stock Android. Who cares? Buy a GPE S5 or flash CM if you want stock on a Sammy. It's not difficult. Even if you can't get GPE in your country (as I can't in mine) the CM Installer will automate installing CM on your phone for you, you literally just need to download the app, plug it in, then wait.

That review comes across as ridiculous biased. Sounds like it was written by someone who was out to hate the Note 3 from the start. The initial bugs in the software that caused things like the gallery issue were fixed within a week or two of release. If you use that as a point against the Note 3 then can I use old, already patched iOS bugs as points against the iPhone?

I also don't see how Samsung is cheating benchmarks. In normal use of the phone, if you even just scroll through menus, the CPU clock will jump up to the top speed while it does that anyway. Using that top speed for benchmarks is not dishonest. Far too big of a deal was made out of that.

 

[Dave.UK]

iOS rules with 60.1 percent share. Android is way behind at 24.9 percent. Given that there are more Android devices out there, the data suggests that iOS users are disproportionately active online.

And as stated, its often mentioned. So, if iOS is one fourth the market share, but it is used 2.5 x more. Thats effectively a tenfold increase over the usage = market share of .25

More apps, thats interesting. Android apps are more buggy and most certainly more ad intrusive and lower quality. I'd expect that iOS app downloads would be one fourth Androids, based on market share. Download, bugger a crap app, delete and get another?

Android has 70% global share and 51% share of app downloads
iOS has 21% global share and 40% share of app downloads

Thus Apple users download more apps per phone

15 months old? So what? Has the demographic changed in that time? Most Android users stay on Android, same with iPhoners. Even variation sin market share are skewed by release dates, its relatively stable

What stats are you using to show that apparently ios rules the market?

In relation to apps, Android has a higher engagement compared to ios.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo...-ios-but-apple-drives-higher-ecommerce-sales/

Any evidence to show that Android apps are of a poorer quality or riddled with ads? All the mainstream apps I use dont have ads and I would say better then the ios equivalents as they have extra features.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...ios-vs-android-war-services-next-battleground

 

[Koziakauzu]

Not that overhyped, over marketed Samsung crap.

over marketed, yes. Over hyped? Lol who ever felt any hype for a Samsung product?

(I'm an android phone user, just in case...)

 

[0dev]

Where the hell are people getting this idea that iOS runs the market? Android has a much bigger marketshare than iOS. Even AOSP alone has more marketshare than iOS as of Q1 2014.

 

[btrav13]

There are just too many other options out there these days for charging solutions that it kind of makes Samsung look silly for ignoring them. Mophie Juicepacks are awesome. And there are dozens of portable batteries that are useful for more than just charging a phone (IE a tablet as well). I don't want to have to disable every feature in my phone to eek out more battery life. Sorry Samsung, you should have just done an add for this product for both companies:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EHEEFWY...lid=2IJ71Z5HK4E8J&coliid=I18Y06AGXSB8C3&psc=1

 

[Dave.UK]

There are just too many other options out there these days for charging solutions that it kind of makes Samsung look silly for ignoring them. Mophie Juicepacks are awesome. And there are dozens of portable batteries that are useful for more than just charging a phone (IE a tablet as well). I don't want to have to disable every feature in my phone to eek out more battery life. Sorry Samsung, you should have just done an add for this product for both companies:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EHEEFWY...lid=2IJ71Z5HK4E8J&coliid=I18Y06AGXSB8C3&psc=1

Why would I want to spend £25 on that device, when I can pick up a spare Galaxy battery for as little as £3?

I used to keep a spare battery in my work bag and one in the car for emergencies. In your scenrio I would have to carry around the charger all the time, or spend £50 buying two, instead of £6 for two spare batteries.

I dont know why ios users hate choice so much!

Galaxy S5
- Great battery life
- Power saving mode if required
- Option for spare battery if required

iphone 5S
- Adequate battery life

Personally I think its the lack of choice Apple gives its users, thats why the become so defensive on here. I can imagine they would be lapping it up if the situation was the other way round.

 

[mantan]

Anyone who goes to an airport knows how true the premise of this advertisement is.

That's the part I don't get about the people who are bashing this ad.

Walk through ANY airport and this is what you see. That's what makes the ad effective.

I travel a lot for work and see it all the time..heck, I almost always try to 'charge up' if I have a long layover between flights. There has to be a way to improve batter life at least a little bit.

I'm not asking for Blackberry battery life. (I can literally charge it once every 3 days on a trip), but I'd love an iPhone that I could expect to make it through the day without a charger at my desk/phone and a separate battery pack 'just in case.'

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There are just too many other options out there these days for charging solutions that it kind of makes Samsung look silly for ignoring them. Mophie Juicepacks are awesome. And there are dozens of portable batteries that are useful for more than just charging a phone (IE a tablet as well). I don't want to have to disable every feature in my phone to eek out more battery life. Sorry Samsung, you should have just done an add for this product for both companies:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EHEEFWY...lid=2IJ71Z5HK4E8J&coliid=I18Y06AGXSB8C3&psc=1

So Samsung looks 'silly' for pointing out a shortcoming of their competitor and should have spent their advertising dollars on promoting another company's product? Huh?!?

 

[knewsom]

It's funny because it's true. God, I long for the days of replaceable batteries...

 

[Tech198]

Yes, and i bet the iWatch will be non-replaceable battery as well...

Thus, anyone wearing an iWatch when it comes out would basically be saying good bye to their local watch repair dealer..

I'd be amazed if Apple DID stick a user-replaceable battery in.

 

[Max Book]

They can bash all they want. It's utterly RIDICULOUS to NOT be able to change your own damn battery in a phone in 2014. The ONLY reason you cannot is simple GREED on Apple's part. They want to charge you $100 to change your batteries in the iPhone and iPod Touch (over 1/3 the cost of the whole damn device with the Touch). It's a real problem too. My battery in my iPod 4th Gen Touch never did get the kind of life I thought it should and while my 1st Gen iPod Touch keeps on kicking with 10+ hours of battery life doing basic things plus music, my 4th Gen iPod Touch can die in as little as 10 minutes with the display on just showing photos! $100 to fix the problem? I can get a new 5th Gen one for $299!

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When the battery in my iPhone 5 started to deteriorate, I was able to take it into an Apple Store where they said they could swap it out for a new battery in 30 minutes. They actually ended up noting a problem with the screen as well so they just gave me a new phone when I came back 30 minutes later. The cost? $0.

I'm sharing my experience not to "prove you wrong" or attack your honor, but simply to show that your experience is not the same as other people's.

 

[Technarchy]

Yes, and i bet the iWatch will be non-replaceable battery as well...

Thus, anyone wearing an iWatch when it comes out would basically be saying good bye to their local watch repair dealer..

I'd be amazed if Apple DID stick a user-replaceable battery in.

How many smart watches have replaceable batteries?

 

[tomtendo]

I don't care what people say about this Samsung ad. But this ad is brilliant! Even tho I disagree- It's so true no matter what phone people use.. Airports are a mad house looking for plugs!

 

[zioxide]

Where the hell are people getting this idea that iOS runs the market? Android has a much bigger marketshare than iOS. Even AOSP alone has more marketshare than iOS as of Q1 2014.

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That's like comparing apples to vegetables. Obviously android has higher market share, there are thousands of android devices out there and 5 (iphone 4, 4s, 5, 5s, 5c) iOS devices.

 

[Tech198]

How many smart watches have replaceable batteries?

Not smart watches, i was talking any watch.... why should we single out the rest of the non-smart watches.

oh wait, we are... because u must go to Apple to get it done.

 

[APlotdevice]

Yes, and i bet the iWatch will be non-replaceable battery as well...

Thus, anyone wearing an iWatch when it comes out would basically be saying good bye to their local watch repair dealer..

I'd be amazed if Apple DID stick a user-replaceable battery in.

A watch repair dealer is a technician, not a user. Many watches are not meant to have their batteries replaced by users... the mechanisms are too small and delicate to be messing around with without the proper tools and experience. That's why you take them to someone who has that!

The iPhone's battery can easily be replaced by the appropriate technician. So would the iWatch's.

 

[Snowy_River]

All iPhone users wish they could swap out the battery, but with the plethora of externals which can be used on ALL devices...it is a mute point for Samsung...

Not all. Wish for better battery life? Sure. Wish for an exchangeable battery? Nope.

Anyone who goes to an airport knows how true the premise of this advertisement is.

Well, yes and no. The premise of the ad is that iPhone users are the only ones who are crowding around the plugs. That's the flaw. When I go to the airport, I see iPhone users, Android users, Windows laptops, MacBook users, and so on, all crowded around the outlets. The need for power is not exclusive to Apple products.

Why would I want to spend £25 on that device, when I can pick up a spare Galaxy battery for as little as £3?

I used to keep a spare battery in my work bag and one in the car for emergencies. In your scenrio I would have to carry around the charger all the time, or spend £50 buying two, instead of £6 for two spare batteries.

I dont know why ios users hate choice so much!

Galaxy S5
- Great battery life
- Power saving mode if required
- Option for spare battery if required

iphone 5S
- Adequate battery life

Personally I think its the lack of choice Apple gives its users, thats why the become so defensive on here. I can imagine they would be lapping it up if the situation was the other way round.

I really appreciate the mindset behind the non-exchangeable battery. What this discussion is really lacking is the perspective of asking why Apple set the iPhone's target usage period at around 1 day of moderate use. Clearly, there is a balance to be had between keeping the device compact and providing plenty of power. Arguably, the iPhone could be built with a 50% higher capacity battery! and it would add something like 1.5 mm to the thickness. On the other hand, to keep the same battery power, but make the battery user removable would probably require significantly more additional thickness (the casing for the battery, the additional hardware for the power connection, the latching mechanisms for the battery compartment cover, etc., etc.). So, while I will grant that the iPhone could have a better battery, I will not grant that it needs (or, from my perspective, even would be desirable to have) a user changeable battery.

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Here's an interesting thought. I wonder if this ad will make S5 users embarrassed or ashamed if the feel like they need or want to plug in while at the airport...

 

[Technarchy]

Not smart watches, i was talking any watch.... why should we single out the rest of the non-smart watches.

oh wait, we are... because u must go to Apple to get it done.

Apple doesn't sell a smart watch.

Lots of other people do.

How many have replaceable batteries?

 

[0dev]

That's like comparing apples to vegetables. Obviously android has higher market share, there are thousands of android devices out there and 5 (iphone 4, 4s, 5, 5s, 5c) iOS devices.

Because Apple manufactures so few iPhones?

 

[Dmunjal]

Not all. Wish for better battery life? Sure. Wish for an exchangeable battery? Nope.



Well, yes and no. The premise of the ad is that iPhone users are the only ones who are crowding around the plugs. That's the flaw. When I go to the airport, I see iPhone users, Android users, Windows laptops, MacBook users, and so on, all crowded around the outlets. The need for power is not exclusive to Apple products.

I think you missed the point of the ad. Of course, all mobile technology users are in this predicament, not just iPhone users. But Samsung users don't have to if they don't want. They have that option. It's easy to carry a couple of very small batteries and get to 100% in seconds.

 

[zioxide]

Because Apple manufactures so few iPhones?

Apple currently sells 4 models of the iPhone.

How many different android devices are on the market? Hundreds if not thousands.

 

[APlotdevice]

Apple doesn't sell a smart watch.

Lots of other people do.

How many have replaceable batteries?

The only one I'm aware of that does is the Cookoo, which is non-rechargeable and barely even qualifies as a smart watch. You certainly can't replace the Gear's battery without taking it apart.

 

[0dev]

Apple currently sells 4 models of the iPhone.

How many different android devices are on the market? Hundreds if not thousands.

They're sold in the same markets, don't see why that matters. Unless you're saying Android's range of choices it provides for the customers is a plus and gets more sales in which case I agree. But I don't see how that mitigates the simple fact iOS is a tiny spec in Android's rear view mirror.

 

[zioxide]

They're sold in the same markets, don't see why that matters. Unless you're saying Android's range of choices it provides for the customers is a plus and gets more sales in which case I agree. But I don't see how that mitigates the simple fact iOS is a tiny spec in Android's rear view mirror.

It matters because you're comparing something that runs on products made by one company to something that runs products made by many companies.

No different than when this debate was "Windows" vs "OS X". Yeah, obviously Windows has a bigger market share when it's installed on products made by Dell, Gateway, Sony, HP, Compaq, eMachines, etc. when OS X runs only on Apple's.

You're still comparing different things. Exactly why I said you're comparing apples to vegetables.

 

[saba01]

Strange, I charge my iPhone 5s every 2 to3 days and never run out. Moderate use even real time stocks always running, but I never play games..

 

[NY Guitarist]

I think you missed the point of the ad. Of course, all mobile technology users are in this predicament, not just iPhone users. But Samsung users don't have to if they don't want. They have that option. It's easy to carry a couple of very small batteries and get to 100% in seconds.

Again, a battery case does exactly the same thing with the advantage of also being attached to the phone so as not to have to remember the extra battery or possible lose it when traveling. For those unaware, a Mophie will power the phone while it recharges it, so waiting to recharge is not a problem.

For probably the vast majority of smartphone users I really don't see an enormous advantage of a swappable battery in daily use. For special circumstances an extra battery might be useful.

I really see this as great marketing hype. Bravo Samsung!