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guessing you have never tried virtual reality on the s7 yet bud. You keep asking about 64bit apps? the whole reason to going 64bit is to allocate over 4gb of memory and be able to use it loading bigger code and apple is still not able to take advantage of 64bit with its limited ram they are using.

so please tell me what apps are over 4gb and using 4gb worth of code in memory to take advantage of 64bit

How can you tell when a person knows NOTHING about processor design or software development?

When they bring up the lame argument that 64bit is useless without 4GB of RAM.
 
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I've heard it all now, more ram is a problem lol. Of course it is.. so is the Ipad Pro a disaster with its increased ram then?
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Erm, not sure what you are on about but they release one note series a year. They skipped note 6, to tie in the 7 series with the s7.
The note 7 is released with the latest OS so again, not sure what you are banging on about.

Ah ok that explains the inflated numbers. 4 years passed by quickly, but it seems even quicker when they skip numbers.

As for what I'm "banging on about", in your haste to be as obnoxiously condescending as possible you appear to have missed my point. Indeed, the latest model will come with the latest OS - they tend to use it as a selling point. That's what I was getting at - the latest OS is a selling point for the new model so last year's model gets left in the cold for several months, at least in my past experience of Samsung and HTC.

Maybe they've improved since then, I don't know, I doubt it. I'd put money on the Note 7 either being released with Nougat or getting it within a week or two, and the Note 5 not seeing Nougat for much longer - maybe 6 months or more. That's what I was getting at. This can be very frustrating if you like to have the latest version as typically they also don't give a timeframe and just say they either don't comment or have no plans.

This won't matter to Note 7 users right now, as they'll have the latest and greatest. Next year when the Note 8 and Android "O" (8.0) are out? Expect to be waiting a long time for Android "O" to come to your Note 7, is all I'm saying.
 
How can you tell when a person knows NOTHING about processor design or software development?

When they bring up the lame argument that 64bit is useless without 4GB of RAM.

32bit code will run faster until you start loading over 4gb of code in the bus.
 
Did you even finished highschool?

Dont you know that being drunk will cause our iris to constrict and even changes the colour of them too? That just makes the phone more secure to not unlock for any drunks, the last thing that people want to use while they are drunk is to use their phone and cause dramas.

Can you please read some news to update yourself with some knowledge? Or maybe, I don't know, study?
Ah more ad-hominem attacks.

So you are basically admitting iris scanning is a gimmick as it won't work in certain circumstances. Got it.
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32bit code will run faster until you start loading over 4gb of code in the bus.
Compiled 64 bit applications will run faster than compiled 32 bit applications on a 32 bit processor due to wider bus optimizations etc. do you have any benchmarks on specific applications or are we just debating based on general knowledge?
 
Ha, well first you have to get the guy to have enough trust in you to fall asleep. But good point about the phone being not so secure to that type of "social" hack.


Actually being drunk changes iris color and even constrict them, I7guy just couldn't come up with a better argument. Lmao.
 
I've been an Apple guy since I worked there in the Gil Amelio days, and have owned all iPhones, etc over the years. This statement just isn't very true any longer. With cloud services like Google Photos, Spotify, Evernote, OneNote, and so many more, the device is just a delivery mechanism. The ecosystem is not as relevant as people try to believe. The only phone that matters is the one that an individual finds to be the best for them. I just don't get the phone bashing. Is it to make someone feel better about their own purchase? That's called insecurity.

While I agree with your comment about the phones being a delivery mechanism, I do believe there is a difference in quality of product and service that the device provides. Many of the services you mentioned require a subscription for full functionality. Apple provides many of the services for free. Apple's ecosystem is very relevant and Samsung would love to have it and is trying hard to emulate it versus relying on Google. #Facts

Not sure why you went to the insecurity comment? Online forums invite opinions, comments, and debates. My opinion and comments only matter if you take it personal and allow them to have power. Relax.
 
Ah more ad-hominem attacks.

So you are basically admitting iris scanning is a gimmick as it won't work in certain circumstances. Got it.
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Compiled 64 bit applications will run faster than compiled 32 bit applications on a 32 bit processor due to wider bus optimizations etc. do you have any benchmarks on specific applications or are we just debating based on general knowledge?

Omg! I'm so happy when you say this! So you admit that fingerprint scanner aka touch ID is a gimmick too for not working with wet fingers?! Hahaha. Oh, you just couldn't surprised me more. What an irony. Lmao :D:D:D

Oh! And making a phone more secure and not letting people to hack while someone is drunk proves that iris scanner is more secure. You get it?

Also, please just use one account here at macrumors. Using more than one account (Black magic) is just not working anymore lol
 
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I thought this site was called MacRumors not SamsungRumors. At this point are new phones from Apple competitors really that newsworthy?

If the competition starts creating better products, it's critical for Mac users to be aware of this. The reason Windows was so successful despite being so poor is almost all Windows users didn't ever know about anything else, so they just assumed Windows was the best it gets. If Mac users don't stay informed, they can't put pressure on Apple to provide a better experience.

Notice, Apple went against Steve Jobs and finally offered bigger screen options because so many people wanted them. Maybe at some point they will have to offer a headphone jack again, too. The fact that other phones still have one puts a huge amount of pressure on Apple by showing us customers that it is still technically feasible to do so.

So in summary - yes - I would consider competing products of great interest to Mac Rumor readers. They're not even rumors - they're really here. :)
 
Brand new i was getting 10-11 hours on my 6+
Apps crashing and reloading is a curse of the bigger screen and not enough ram. It drives me crazy that apps refresh. But i heard the 6s and 6s+ is fixed with the 2gig of ram.
I used to get much better battery time also, especially when new, but also with 9.3.1. Then iOS 9.3.2 happened. I've tried doing some things to remedy but nothing has worked so far.
 
Yeah, there are some nice shots in that gallery that play well with the excessive sharpening, but if these are untouched photos I agree that there's way too much sharpening happening. And I'm really tired of the argument that megapixels aren't important. Yes, the lens and sensor are obviously bigger image quality factors, but more megapixels = larger images, and larger images offer greater editing flexibility and will be more future-proof for displaying online as screen resolutions continue to increase. 12mp is fine, but it still feels like a step backwards for Samsung from 16.

As far as the phone is concerned, I think it looks really nice. Watching the "first look" video someone linked, the back doesn't seem to be the greasy fingerprint magnet the S6 models were (I wasn't paying attention to the S7 release). I'm still happy with iPhone, though, and I'm not tempted to switch. iOS is fast, stable, secure, offers a top quality selection of apps, and I think its a great mobile operating system. If you like Android, more power to ya! The competition benefits us all, and at the end of the day they're just smartphones!

It'll be interesting to see what Apple has in store for the 7. A lot people around here talk like it's already been released, but all we have are rumors and I'm sure Apple still has some suprises up its sleeve.


Agreed. Looks like the military agrees as well..

http://9to5mac.com/2016/07/18/us-army-switching-from-android-to-iphone-6s/
 
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While I agree with your comment about the phones being a delivery mechanism, I do believe there is a difference in quality of product and service that the device provides. Many of the services you mentioned require a subscription for full functionality. Apple provides many of the services for free. Apple's ecosystem is very relevant and Samsung would love to have it and is trying hard to emulate it versus relying on Google. #Facts

Not sure why you went to the insecurity comment? Online forums invite opinions, comments, and debates. My opinion and comments only matter if you take it personal and allow them to have power. Relax.
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Omg! I'm so happy when you say this! So you admit that fingerprint scanner aka touch ID is a gimmick too for not working with wet fingers?! Hahaha. Oh, you just couldn't surprised me more. What an irony. Lmao :D:D:D

Oh! And making a phone more secure and not letting people to hack while someone is drunk proves that iris scanner is more secure. You get it?

Also, please just use one account here at macrumors. Using more than one account (Black magic) is just not working anymore lol
Idk, my 6s works when my fingers are wet. Or the scanner has coffee on it. I'm happy to hear you agree iris scanning is a gimmick. Have a drink and it doesn't work. However I suppose in your vein of logic I could get a hold of pupil dialing drugs, get my friend drunk and hack his phone by putting drops in his eyes. There is no end to the deviousness, is there?
 
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I must admit that the Note7 looks like a solid phone and it's most certainly a step up from my Note5 and I presume in a few ways it'll be better than the iPhone 7 in terms of display, HDD, and the improved stylus but the Apple ecosystem... Can't escape it! :p
 
ummm 0.7mm tip, so a standard writing size tip. Not bad samsung, I'm still buying an iPhone though, just none this year.
 
Ah ok that explains the inflated numbers. 4 years passed by quickly, but it seems even quicker when they skip numbers.

As for what I'm "banging on about", in your haste to be as obnoxiously condescending as possible you appear to have missed my point. Indeed, the latest model will come with the latest OS - they tend to use it as a selling point. That's what I was getting at - the latest OS is a selling point for the new model so last year's model gets left in the cold for several months, at least in my past experience of Samsung and HTC.

Maybe they've improved since then, I don't know, I doubt it. I'd put money on the Note 7 either being released with Nougat or getting it within a week or two, and the Note 5 not seeing Nougat for much longer - maybe 6 months or more. That's what I was getting at. This can be very frustrating if you like to have the latest version as typically they also don't give a timeframe and just say they either don't comment or have no plans.

This won't matter to Note 7 users right now, as they'll have the latest and greatest. Next year when the Note 8 and Android "O" (8.0) are out? Expect to be waiting a long time for Android "O" to come to your Note 7, is all I'm saying.

I have a s6 edge plus, it's had marshmallow for a long time, last year's model on the latest and greatest eh, what's that all about. Nougat isn't even out yet isn't.it? How can the note ship with it?

And when you put "maybe they've improved, I don't know.." that why you get accused of banging on, you are commenting on stuff you don't know.
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Maybe in your universe 64 bit is a useless spec. 64 bit is not like throwing in an ir blaster than taking it out then throwing it in etc. not like the droid fans drooling over the new hardware where specs are the only thing and the software needs all that hardware just to run smoothly.
So you admit it runs smoothly, finally we have a break through.
 
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Nope, they did it to be first, joining the spec wars that ifans oh so hate..
Now Samsung joined the 64bit club, and how's the phrase go.. they did it right...

No, because there's no Android software to take advantage of 64bit. How can it be "done right" when it's not even being used?
 
Idk, my 6s works when my fingers are wet. Or the scanner has coffee on it. I'm happy to hear you agree iris scanning is a gimmick. Have a drink and it doesn't work. However I suppose in your vein of logic I could get a hold of pupil dialing drugs, get my friend drunk and hack his phone by putting drops in his eyes. There is no end to the deviousness, is there?


"My" = 1.

And the sad fact is that we don't even know if you're telling the truth.

Its Time to step outside into the real world, everyone knows the iPhone fingerprint scanner doesn't work with fingers being wet. Or if you don't believe, just search on YouTube? Are you aware that YouTube even exist?

"Drug him, put drops" that's a stretch to your arguement but ok.

What about "drug him, put eye drops and OPEN HIS EYELID" vs. resting finger on the sensor while some is asleep without having to use drug and no eye drops needed lol.

I'm sure you will say iris hacking is still easier! Hahaha
 
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Wow, Rogers is really scamming Canadian this time..

when you look at the S7 Edge: full price 1009$, with 2y contract = 399$
Note 7 full price 1049$: 2y contract = 559$

the price difference is 40$ but they're charging 150$ for it.

the Note7 with Bell is 449$ (2 years) which seems normal ($CDN)
 
We don't get front page articles every time someone releases a new smartphone. Clearly the only reason this is a front page story and not in the alternative to iOS forum is for clicks - to get a bunch of people posting how Apple doesn't innovate anymore, I'm switching to Android blah blah. Over at AI it's front page news for the opposite reason; to generate a bunch of snarky anti-Samsung/Android posts.

I got banned from AI because I was too critical about Apple. To be precisely: everybody gets banned from Apple Insider if you're critical about Apple.

I think it's healthy for Apple to read that their loyal customers are dissatisfied with the situation of no new macs (pro), incremental updates and outrageous pricing. I think any other tech company would already be bankrupt at this pace of innovation. It's past time for Apple to wake up and think about customers first instead of money and politics.
 
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Kinda like the "snails pace" at which you'll get an OS update on the Samsung...

OS updates aren't as necessary there. Security updates are pushed out regularly. Stock apps are constantly updated via the Play Store, unlike iOS where they're only updated via an entire OS update, which comes out rarely itself.

I can never understand why people keep insisting others to try something that used to be terrible and now just becomes tolerable, while the latter have already been using something else that's been nice from day one. It's almost like the former has an agenda to steer people away from something at all cost.

I can never understand why people are so incredibly tied to one thing and fail to keep an open mind about other platforms. Be interested in what you want, but being intolerable of today's alternatives is a big ignorant.

And it's not just now tolerable. It's always been completely usable, as is iOS. It's just been accelerating over the past few years.

Dude, if you hate apple so much and are ready to switch, head on over to SamsungRumors.com. Why are you even posting on MacRumors.com? Just switch already.

Who said I hate Apple so much? Don't make assumptions.

Can you insert a USB cable wrong? How about an AC power cord? 9V battery? HDMI cable? The world is literally filled with items designed not to be inserted wrong. Your attempts to blame the user instead of Samsung are truly pathetic. It's just as idiotic as blaming the user for entering letters into a field that's supposed to be a number when the programmer should be checking for this and not allowing it in the first place. Good design means the engineers considered ALL possible scenarios and took steps to prevent them from happening. Lazy engineers blame the user.

The user is to blame. They're trying to insert something in a way not originally intended. That is the user's fault. Simple. Of course, creating a way to where damage can't be done is optimal, it's still up to the user to use their devices properly.

Facebook loads "light years faster"? Outright lie. I tried and they are both fast. You want to provide some video proof? I'm betting no. Besides, there's no need to. There are numerous speed test videos on YouTube between the S7 and 6S Plus. And the iPhone comes out on top in just about everything. But they are pointless because none of those tests does anything that would strain the devices. Loading up Apps over and over is not a good way to test a device to see which is faster.

I was actually comparing my cheap, $200 Galaxy J7 and my iPhone 6 Plus. Facebook on the J7 launches and is usable in under a second. 6+? Several seconds. Want a video? Actually, I'm not making one. Your fanboyism isn't worth it. *inb4 you respond with how I don't want to make a video means that what I said isn't true*

And I see you want to avoid my comment on 64bit Android Apps. Probably a good idea, since you don't want to discuss a topic you know nothing about with someone who develops for Android (me) and has a very good grasp of the topic.

What was your comment about 64-bit Android apps? I must've missed it. I'll address it if you bring it up again.
 
I have a s6 edge plus, it's had marshmallow for a long time, last year's model on the latest and greatest eh, what's that all about. Nougat isn't even out yet isn't.it? How can the note ship with it?

And when you put "maybe they've improved, I don't know.." that why you get accused of banging on, you are commenting on stuff you don't know.
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So you admit it runs smoothly, finally we have a break through.
Nope I said it needs the hardware, nothing about how it runs. Sorry.
 
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