Samsung Debuts Galaxy S10 and S10+, Along With Premium S10 5G and Lower-Cost S10e

[cardfan]

I think it’s the fact you probably already know. I know your iPad would get you around some issues but you probably don’t want to give up the watch. Or have things synced with iPad.

I enjoy the Apple Watch but also being able to accommodate the most users. Whether they use iMessage, FaceTime, google, etc.

 

[DNichter]

Since all everyone else is doing is laughing, i'll try and help:

1: No. There is no compatibility with the Watch outside of an iPhone. you would have to move to either android wear or a Samsung galaxy watch

2: No, The homepod only works for Airplay based devices or Apple Music. You will still require an iPhone to configure it.

3: Yes, Google Home app is Google's variation on the homekit app and will be compatible with most homekit devices. But you will likely need to reconfigure everything

5: Yes, AirPods will work but only as standard bluetooth headphones. No W chip compatilibity, so you do lose the easy device switching and SIRI shortcut.


I've not done full ecosystem changes, but have bounced between iPhones and Androids a few times. But I tend to use only services that are platform agnostic so that it's easy to change without having to rebuild/redo all m data.

for basic data on the phone, Samsung does hav a migration assistant program that will seamless move contacts, photos and other data from your iPhone to a samsung device.

is it more work than worth? that depends how vested you are in one ecosystem or the other and how portable things are. Moving to android might pose some headaches for some of the iOS or MacOS specific functionality (Like AirDrop if it's in your workflow). But then somethings like Apple music will work fine on Android.

There will also be some learning curve as Android and iOS just behave in slightly different ways for some things. For example, the way notifications are handled are different. Whether or not you find it better / worse, will be more just a comfort thing.

Got it, thank you. I haven't ever really considered a major change, and it still feels like it is more work than it is worth, but I am interested in getting familiar with the Android platform to better understand how it could potentially work for me. I certainly don't want to sell everything I have today, so I am thinking of potentially looking at the S10e in a few months off contract when the costs come down a bit. Appreciate the info though.
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I think it’s the fact you probably already know. I know your iPad would get you around some issues but you probably don’t want to give up the watch. Or have things synced with iPad.

I enjoy the Apple Watch but also being able to accommodate the most users. Whether they use iMessage, FaceTime, google, etc.

Well I don't know a ton about specific apps, etc. on the Android platform. I didn't know if there were potential workarounds, things like that. For instance, I didn't know you could use the Google Home app to manage HomeKit devices. Anyway, I got the info I need for the most part.

 

[LordVic]

Got it, thank you. I haven't ever really considered a major change, and it still feels like it is more work than it is worth, but I am interested in getting familiar with the Android platform to better understand how it could potentially work for me. I certainly don't want to sell everything I have today, so I am thinking of potentially looking at the S10e in a few months off contract when the costs come down a bit. Appreciate the info though.

Not a problem. Best way to form a real opinion of something is by hands on experience. it's what I do with every new major iteration I can of tech I like. (kept going back to the SE!)

the best recommendation though I can give if you ever want to be platform agnostic and allow yourself to use absolutely whatver you want is to find 3rd party services that are not tied to any vendor. This will allow you to just swap hardware platforms, reinstall those apps and still effectively be up and running without significant loss of data/services.

You do lose a lot of vertical integration that being exclusive to Apple gives you and while others like Samsung have some level of integration, it isn't quite as robust. its a trade off. Portability of your data, or ecosystem integration. unfortunately right now there's not a lot of highly vertically integrated manufacturers that also allow for portability (it's sort of how they try to lock yo into them as a vendor). Samsung tries to do this to an extent (they have their own services, but they're not mandatory and are fully capable of being disabled. Apple is probably the tightest integrator.

 

[DNichter]

Not a problem. Best way to form a real opinion of something is by hands on experience. it's what I do with every new major iteration I can of tech I like. (kept going back to the SE!)

the best recommendation though I can give if you ever want to be platform agnostic and allow yourself to use absolutely whatver you want is to find 3rd party services that are not tied to any vendor. This will allow you to just swap hardware platforms, reinstall those apps and still effectively be up and running without significant loss of data/services.

You do lose a lot of vertical integration that being exclusive to Apple gives you and while others like Samsung have some level of integration, it isn't quite as robust. its a trade off. Portability of your data, or ecosystem integration. unfortunately right now there's not a lot of highly vertically integrated manufacturers that also allow for portability (it's sort of how they try to lock yo into them as a vendor). Samsung tries to do this to an extent (they have their own services, but they're not mandatory and are fully capable of being disabled. Apple is probably the tightest integrator.

Thanks for all the info, it's definitely something for me to consider moving forward. I have a feeling I would still lean Apple for a number of reasons, but I may try to branch out a bit. I would just need to be pretty selective with what products and services I choose to use.

 

[Glockworkorange]

Reading this is why some posters should not even comment. Is this high school???

The second half of the comment was made tongue in cheek (about the friend and iMessage or bust).

Some on these boards are way too quick to jump in someone’s s**t.

 

[0989382]

Got my hands on the S10 line this weekend at Best Buy. The s10e has won me over.

It's the phone I wish the XR was: The bezel is smaller, the screen is OLED, the screen is 1080p, and the device is smaller overall than the S10 and Xr, it has a headphone jack and starts with 2x the memory of the XR while also supporting SD. It feels great in the hand. The hole punch looks good in person. The wide angle camera is more handy in my typical use. It's solid hardware.

It gets rid of those god forsaken curved edges!

It loses the heart rate sensor, which I thought was a fun bonus on the Galaxy line. That sensor is very accurate.

Best Buy will give me $600 to trade in my old phone. I could get an s10e cheap, or get the full blown s10 for a bit more with included Samsung buds with wireless charging case.

Still dramatically slower than the XR isn't it though?
[doublepost=1551218512][/doublepost]That's right guys, you're quick to criticise the XR's <1080p screen... "oh it's lesser hardware"

This new Samsung phone has an inferior processor to the XR at that price.. lesser hardware.

lol

 

[The Game 161]

Still dramatically slower than the XR isn't it though?
[doublepost=1551218512][/doublepost]That's right guys, you're quick to criticise the XR's <1080p screen... "oh it's lesser hardware"

This new Samsung phone has an inferior processor to the XR at that price.. lesser hardware.

lol

The days of iPhones being faster in day to day tasks are pretty much over...smoothness and speed android devices are very fast.

 

[0989382]

The days of iPhones being faster in day to day tasks are pretty much over...smoothness and speed android devices are very fast.

They might be fast, but they're not as fast. Technically speaking, inferior processors.

 

[The Game 161]

They might be fast, but they're not as fast. Technically speaking, inferior processors.

Guessing you mean bench marks? What good is all that power when the iPhone doesn’t use anything to take advantage of the raw speed?

What matters is day to day speed and smoothness of the phone which is how most should judge speed on devices.

 

[0989382]

Guessing you mean bench marks? What good is all that power when the iPhone doesn’t use anything to take advantage of the raw speed?

What matters is day to day speed and smoothness of the phone which is how most should judge speed on devices.

So what exact measures and tasks are you implying this Samsung does quicker? ..

 

[The Game 161]

So what exact measures and tasks are you implying this Samsung does quicker? ..

App speed
Opening apps
Opening camera
Scrolling

Even gaming where iPhone used to kill android devices that gap keeps getting smaller and smaller.

Me personally? As long as my phone runs smoothly I could care less apps opening 0,1 sec faster.

Point is on day to day use speed wise you won’t notice any difference from samsung phones and iPhones.

 

[0989382]

App speed
Opening apps
Opening camera
Scrolling

Even gaming where iPhone used to kill android devices that gap keeps getting smaller and smaller.

Me personally? As long as my phone runs smoothly I could care less apps opening 0,1 sec faster.

Point is on day to day use speed wise you won’t notice any difference from samsung phones and iPhones.

Which apps?
How much faster at opening the camera?
How did you assess scrolling?

I'll happily agree if you can prove it makes an everyday difference...

There's a huge gap between graphics performance. You care less about 0,1 seconds faster? Yet, these these things you list above - if they're faster at all, I doubt it - would be that much faster....

My point is ... when you guys b*tch about the XR screen being under 1080p.. it's also unnoticeable day to day.

 

[The Game 161]

Which apps?
How much faster at opening the camera?
How did you assess scrolling?

I'll happily agree if you can prove it makes an everyday difference...

There's a huge gap between graphics performance. You care less about 0,1 seconds faster? Yet, these these things you list above - if they're faster at all, I doubt it - would be that much faster....

My point is ... when you guys b*tch about the XR screen being under 1080p.. it's also unnoticeable day to day.

Go look at speed tests on YouTube they show the difference in those stats are basically the same.

As I said the raw power which iPhones have over android on day to day use nobody would use that raw power as there is nothing that people use would take advantage of it. And no it doesn’t make any difference...

My point was in terms of speed and smoothness samsung devices are just as quick as iPhones now same with other android companies.

I’ve never had an issue with the XR screen given the lower price.

 

[0989382]

Go look at speed tests on YouTube they show the difference in those stats are basically the same.

As I said the raw power which iPhones have over android on day to day use nobody would use that raw power as there is nothing that people use would take advantage of it. And no it doesn’t make any difference...

My point was in terms of speed and smoothness samsung devices are just as quick as iPhones now same with other android companies.

I’ve never had an issue with the XR screen given the lower price.

No, you've made this point, why don't you show me them? Prove your point.

Just because 'nobody would use it', doesn't change it. Still superior.

A lot of haters on here will diss the XR and say how appalling it is, yet they'll bore us all to death saying how great these competing phones are forgetting that their own lousy logic of spec comparisons still applies when I make the point that the XR is technically superior in processor performance.

 

[The Game 161]

No, you've made this point, why don't you show me them? Prove your point.

Just because 'nobody would use it', doesn't change it. Still superior.

A lot of haters on here will diss the XR and say how appalling it is, yet they'll bore us all to death saying how great these competing phones are forgetting that their own lousy logic of spec comparisons still applies when I make the point that the XR is technically superior in processor performance.

Go on YouTube and search S10 plus vs iPhone XS Max. Hardly difficult. Or even Note 9 or S9 videos. You won’t find hardly any difference speed wise.

It’s superior at doing what though? Good luck finding what takes advantage of that raw power.

People buy what they like but doesn’t change the fact the XR doesn’t really compare feature wise with other phones and even at the lower price is overpriced for what it does. You are basically paying for the ecosystem and Face ID. Is it fast? Yeah is but are people buying devices on pure speed alone?

 

[0989382]

Go on YouTube and search S10 plus vs iPhone XS Max. Hardly difficult. Or even Note 9 or S9 videos. You won’t find hardly any difference speed wise.

It’s superior at doing what though? Good luck finding what takes advantage of that raw power.

People buy what they like but doesn’t change the fact the X-RAY doesn’t really compare feature wise with other phones and even at the lower price is overpriced for what it does. You are basically paying for the ecosystem and Face ID. Is it fast? Yeah is but are people buying devices on pure speed alone?

Show me, I'm not doing research for something you're trying to convince me off, it's not how a debate works.

It's got superior processing power. That's the point I made. Just a reminder to those who are pretending the XR is some sort of joke. Works both ways.

 

[The Game 161]

Show me, I'm not doing research for something you're trying to convince me off, it's not how a debate works.

It's got superior processing power. That's the point I made. Just a reminder to those who are pretending the XR is some sort of joke. Works both ways.

Where has anybody said the XR is ever slow or not very fast? People have complained about what it does not the speed.

 

[0989382]

Where has anybody said the XR is ever slow or not very fast? People have complained about what it does not the speed.

They often say the screen is a joke because it's sub-1080p and will disregard people making a similar point to you (the real world experience not really making a difference).

You're completely right, if it doesn't make a noticeable difference... who cares?

But they want to compare specs, well they can remember that. The XR (2018) at a lower price, smokes the new Samsung (2019) at more than double the price...

 

[The Game 161]

They often say the screen is a joke because it's sub-1080p and will disregard people making a similar point to you (the real world experience not really making a difference).

You're completely right, if it doesn't make a noticeable difference... who cares?

But they want to compare specs, well they can remember that. The XR (2018) at a lower price, smokes the new Samsung (2019) at more than double the price...

Smokes samsung at what exactly? The new Samsung phones smoke the XR in pretty much every single category apart from benchmarks I’m guessing as I have never bothered paying attention to benchmarks.

 

[Jack Burton]

Still dramatically slower than the XR isn't it though?

That's right guys, you're quick to criticise the XR's <1080p screen... "oh it's lesser hardware"

This new Samsung phone has an inferior processor to the XR at that price.. lesser hardware.

lol

Eh, my self worth isn't tied to a brand, so I'm OK with compromise. Especially since I can get the s10e for $150.

I treat phones like Sergeant Rasczak treats his corporals:

 

[0989382]

Smokes samsung at what exactly? The new Samsung phones smoke the XR in pretty much every single category apart from benchmarks I’m guessing as I have never bothered paying attention to benchmarks.

I'd also like to add, in terms of beneficial features... the fact the XR will be updated beyond a few months of it's debut (more than a few years, actually) is more useful to more people around the world. Making the price even better value for money..

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Which apps?
How much faster at opening the camera?
How did you assess scrolling?

I'll happily agree if you can prove it makes an everyday difference...

There's a huge gap between graphics performance. You care less about 0,1 seconds faster? Yet, these these things you list above - if they're faster at all, I doubt it - would be that much faster....

My point is ... when you guys b*tch about the XR screen being under 1080p.. it's also unnoticeable day to day.

Watch this

Sorry, Wrong video. Not the speed test. Will hint for it

 

[LordVic]

Too ba CPU speed, especially in the age of diminishing returns is not the primary factor that people have a problem with.

the problem people have with the XR is that it's price point to the overall device seems off. LCD vs AMOLED. lower screen to body ratio. Less memory, less storage. no expansion SD card. no 3.5mm headphone jack. lower quality aluminum vs stainless steel.

now, overall, the Xr is a GREAT phone. But it's not a $799 phone. it should have been at most $650. the stuff Apple has put in here is up to Apples standards for quality. But the bulk of the tech is.. dated.

And many of us, Can absolutely spot the difference between the display in the Xr and the display in the Xs for overall quality.

overall, the point that most peope are making is not that the Xr sucks or is inferior device, but that the price point Apple believes that the Xr is worth is significantly higher than what competition is offering in their devices.

Appe does NOT live in a vacuum in which they can ignore competition's offerings. the Xr feels very much like they are ignoring the competition at this price point.

 

[Jack Burton]

I'd also like to add, in terms of beneficial features... the fact the XR will be updated beyond a few months of it's debut (more than a few years, actually) is more useful to more people around the world. Making the price even better value for money..

This is a better argument to make. Believe me, it gives me pause when considering Samsung's slow history to update coupled with Verizon's sluggishness.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Which apps?
How much faster at opening the camera?
How did you assess scrolling?

I'll happily agree if you can prove it makes an everyday difference...

There's a huge gap between graphics performance. You care less about 0,1 seconds faster? Yet, these these things you list above - if they're faster at all, I doubt it - would be that much faster....

My point is ... when you guys b*tch about the XR screen being under 1080p.. it's also unnoticeable day to day.

Correct video