Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Samsung Debuts Galaxy S10 and S10+, Along With Premium S10 5G and Lower-Cost S10e

1050792 said:
What's wrong with seeing what Apple is going to copy next?
Click to expand...

To be fair everyone said how ugly the notch was, then so many others copied it.

The fact is that everyone can predict what will come next in smartphones, the question is not about who copies what, all manufacturers already know and have designs on notch, notchless, foldable and so on. The question is who does it first, not who thought of it first. And for whoever did it first, others will watch if it was a success or fail and react appropriately.

It's all ******** at the end of the day. Smartphones have reached their maximum usefulness for what people want them for. Everything that comes now is just manufacturers trying to sell phones with the next new something to try and sell phones that are no more useful than the last.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mr Todhunter and archer75
LeeW said:
To be fair everyone said how ugly the notch was, then so many others copied it.

The fact is that everyone can predict what will come next in smartphones, the question is not about who copies what, all manufacturers already know and have designs on notch, notchless, foldable and so on. The question is who does it first, not who thought of it first. And for whoever did it first, others will watch if it was a success or fail and react appropriately.

It's all ******** at the end of the day. Smartphones have reached their maximum usefulness for what people want them for. Everything that comes now is just manufacturers trying to sell phones with the next new something to try and sell phones that are no more useful than the last.
Click to expand...
Manufacturers trying to sell products in order to make money? :eek:
 
  • Like
Reactions: jedifaka
archer75 said:
I have a drawer full of android phones. I've owned more android phones than iphones and every single one has been laggy to some degree. Some a lot, some just a little. None as smooth as any iphone I've owned.
Not to mention slow updates, if any, and google privacy issues. There's nothing I need from an android phone that the iphone can't do.
Click to expand...
The only laggy Android I've had was an Orange San Fran from 2011, so I don't share the same experience as you
 
  • Like
Reactions: BoScO999 and jamesrick80
Spizike9 said:
128gb starting at 900. That’s the way iPhone should be priced. After 10 years with iPhone I may finally switch. Just don’t know if I could do Android though.
Click to expand...
You'll be fine, the problem is that you won't go back to iOS.
 
1050792 said:
The only laggy Android I've had was an Orange San Fran from 2011, so I don't share the same experience as you
Click to expand...
perception. I have a friend with the last pixel and I sit by him on lunch breaks. I said your phone is laggy! He says no it's not. Even though as I'm watching him use it I can see the lag. It's blatantly obvious. But he seriously can't see it. Same for another friend with a Note 9. I can see the lag.

Like I said, I have a drawer full of androids. Any time I want to play around or test a new update I do so. Android is just a jumbled un-optimized mess. There's nothing there that I find better. Nothing that makes me want to use it. I have an android TV as well. Same thing. I have used android auto. Still can if I want to test. Same experience. Seems like an afterthought to google.
 
  • Like
Reactions: stab, Snot Rox and mattster16
archer75 said:
perception. I have a friend with the last pixel and I sit by him on lunch breaks. I said your phone is laggy! He says no it's not. Even though as I'm watching him use it I can see the lag. It's blatantly obvious. But he seriously can't see it. Same for another friend with a Note 9. I can see the lag.
Click to expand...
Then I'm not sure what you mean by lag either.
 
archer75 said:
perception. I have a friend with the last pixel and I sit by him on lunch breaks. I said your phone is laggy! He says no it's not. Even though as I'm watching him use it I can see the lag. It's blatantly obvious. But he seriously can't see it. Same for another friend with a Note 9. I can see the lag.
Click to expand...
Rubbish. I've seen plenty of iPhones lag too. Look how easy it is to just say things. The real truth is Phones from 2018/2019 don't lag anymore, the CPU's in modern smartphones are MORE than capable of running a phone OS smoothly.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 0388631
kwikdeth said:
The cool thing is that even with 90 apps open, my Android phone has no noticeable UI lag. Try that on an iPhone under the same conditions and get back to me on that one. A good user experience means not having to worry about app management
Click to expand...

I think you have it backwards. iPhone doesn’t need any app management by the user. The OS does it all on its own. Apps don’t run in the background except explicitly defined functions. iPhone also gives absolute priority to UI in terms of processing. I literally never close apps on my iPhone. I don’t have to. I can have 100 apps open for weeks with no impact on anything.

Every Android I’ve ever used has slight UI lag. The OS just simply prioritizes things differently. Have you ever even used an iOS device?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Duane Martin
bbeagle said:
No. The Apple 'chin' is 3.87mm. The Samsung 'chin' is 4.01mm.
Click to expand...
I stand corrected about the chin. a tiny difference. However, the upper bezel is smaller on the S10+. The top of the display is the part you see more than the bottum.
 
1050792 said:
Then I'm not sure what you mean by lag either.
Click to expand...
stutters while scrolling are the most obvious. Apps slow to respond, load times, Hangs. etc. It's not all the time. Just moments here and there. But it's there and not something I see on my iphone, or at least no where near as often.
 
bbeagle said:
Typical Samsung fan argument.

Software and Hardware go together to form either product. I've used Samsung phones with more RAM, and they do not increase usability over an iPhone. Samsung's software is so unoptimized that it needs the extra RAM to try to match 1/2 the RAM in the iPhone.
Click to expand...
said the apple fanboy
 
  • Like
Reactions: 0388631 and Dave.UK
archer75 said:
stutters while scrolling are the most obvious. Apps slow to respond, load times, Hangs. etc. It's not all the time. Just moments here and there. But it's there and not something I see on my iphone, or at least no where near as often.
Click to expand...
I never had such issues but you do you... I guess.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 0388631
bbeagle said:
Software and Hardware go together to form either product. I've used Samsung phones with more RAM, and they do not increase usability over an iPhone. Samsung's software is so unoptimized that it needs the extra RAM to try to match 1/2 the RAM in the iPhone.
Click to expand...

Highly suggest you read Apple developer docs. iOS suspends apps in the background but can save app state to storage (kind of like suspend to disk on laptops). Android, on the other, can keep apps running in the background for things like media/file/web server. So, it's false to say that Android is unoptimized. That doesn't make any sense like saying Mac is unoptimized compared to iPod.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jasvncnt, BoScO999, ROGmaster and 1 other person
archer75 said:
stutters while scrolling are the most obvious. Apps slow to respond, load times, Hangs. etc. It's not all the time. Just moments here and there. But it's there and not something I see on my iphone, or at least no where near as often.
Click to expand...

That’s the big one I notice. Scrolling is NOT smooth! It drives me crazy. Opening an app on iPhone it INSTANTLY responds as soon as you tap the icon. There is a lag on my android devices. There is an actual software difference. iPhone gives priority to all UI inputs. Android places UI inputs in the normal queue. Faster hardware helps, but it’s a fundamental software difference.
 
techwhiz said:
Slow OS updates for Samsung.
Click to expand...
I don't know how true that is anymore. My current phone is Galaxy S9 Plus running the same version of Android these new phones are. Samsung has won me over for now but I'll be watching Apple to see what they come up with next. I'm definitely not a brand loyalist but I do keep my eye on brands that have worked well for me in the past.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GuruZac
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back