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Highly suggest you read Apple developer docs. iOS suspends apps in the background but can save app state to storage (kind of like suspend to disk on laptops). Android, on the other, can keep apps running in the background for things like media/file/web server. So, it's false to say that Android is unoptimized. That doesn't make any sense like saying MacOS is unoptimized compared to iPod.
sort of. IOS dynamically resizes an apps ram in the background as more apps are launched in the background. So it can keep more in the background(and of course store state on disk as you say). On the other hand android can't do that. It keeps the apps in the background with their full ram requirements. Once that's full older apps are closed to make way for newer apps as they're opened. So android does need more ram to keep an equal number of apps in the background. Depending on the number of apps. With the current amount of ram in phones I'd say it's a non issue.
 
Face ID works way better than Touch ID, in my personal usage. With the one exception of having to pick up the phone to unlock. That, I agree, is a nuisance.

It’s good that it works for you, in your opinion.

Samsung’s implementation of under glass Touch ID is the future. I have no intention of having my eyes bombarded with IR from the Flood Illuminater every time I look at a device. Samsung’s implementation avoids the PITA of having to swipe up after unlock with Face ID.

If Android was not such crapware I’d be on the 10E in a heartbeat. Hardware used to have equal value with software from Apple with me. Tim has turned Apple Hardware into half baked, poorly implemented, poorly designed low quality high priced toys for teenagers and Anamojis. I look forward to his replacement in 2020.
 
If I could use a Samsung phone without having to give Google permission to use all my data I would. I would be quite happy just using all the Samsung services - but it just can't be done. A Google account is required to even get past the initial setup. Nobody is talking about that BIG disadvantage of using Android - Google.
 
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sort of. IOS dynamically resizes an apps ram in the background as more apps are launched in the background. So it can keep more in the background. On the other hand android can't do that. It keeps the apps in the background with their full ram requirements. Once that's full older apps are closed to make way for newer apps as they're opened. So android does need more ram to keep an equal number of apps in the background. Depending on the number of apps. With the current amount of ram in phones I'd say it's a non issue.

Stop making up stuff and read the developer docs. iOS only allows very limited and simple functions to run in background. On iOS you can't have a torrent download, active SSH session, media/file/web server, etc. running in the background like on Android which is more capable like a desktop/server OS.

https://developer.apple.com/library.../BackgroundExecution/BackgroundExecution.html
 
Now that's how not to make too much of a compromise with an entry level premium product (as much of misnomer or ironic as that seems).

The S10E has a FP sensor on the power button, it still has a dual camera, 6gb RAM, and the fastest Qualcomm processor it could put in there.

The XR just has FaceID and the A12 processor going for it. It still compromises on the display, network frequencies, etc.
 
Still not liking the hole. Almost as ugly as the wide notch. And, is it a dead touch spot? What if you have a UI element to need to touch/close/etc.?

Hope they can get rid of it with the upcoming Galaxy Note 10.

I see the hole punch remaining for this year and next year so expect that same double punch hole on the galaxy note 10...i believe no hole punch displays are in line for 2021 where everything should be behind the display according to Samsung's plan of displays in the near future.

It could be the ultimate reason to keep my Note 9 till that occurs................otherwise the devices are beauties.....
 
Stop making up stuff and read the developer docs. iOS only allows very limited and simple functions to run in background. On iOS you can't have a torrent download, active SSH session, media/file/web server, etc. running in the background like on Android which is more capable like a desktop/server OS.

https://developer.apple.com/library.../BackgroundExecution/BackgroundExecution.html
I've always thought torrent or running a server on a phone is beyond stupid. I can't imaging a single good reason to ever do that on a phone. Seriously?!

https://www.androidpit.com/android-vs-ios-ram-management

https://www.cultofmac.com/303223/ios-twice-memory-efficient-android-heres/

 
The first thing I saw when the XS models came out was complains about the price, so I looked thru a few pages on this tread and no one is talking about the price of Samsung’s phones.

Now is the price of the XS and XS Max to much??
 
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sort of. IOS dynamically resizes an apps ram in the background as more apps are launched in the background. So it can keep more in the background(and of course store state on disk as you say). On the other hand android can't do that. It keeps the apps in the background with their full ram requirements. Once that's full older apps are closed to make way for newer apps as they're opened. So android does need more ram to keep an equal number of apps in the background. Depending on the number of apps. With the current amount of ram in phones I'd say it's a non issue.

That is incorrect. Android also compresses apps in RAM and saves their last state. The difference is that it does it at another degree.
iOS is simply less powerful when it comes to allowing apps to function in the background.
 
sort of. IOS dynamically resizes an apps ram in the background as more apps are launched in the background. So it can keep more in the background(and of course store state on disk as you say). On the other hand android can't do that. It keeps the apps in the background with their full ram requirements. Once that's full older apps are closed to make way for newer apps as they're opened. So android does need more ram to keep an equal number of apps in the background. Depending on the number of apps. With the current amount of ram in phones I'd say it's a non issue.
and you said the other dude is a samsung fan. You seem to me you are the all in apple fanboy making up stuff. Apps in iOS are suspended with limited functionalities and services and not running. I guess it's pointless to answer you actually
 
Not quite sure if serious. If serious, I don't understand your post. If you had claimed the exact opposite you'd be much closer to the truth. A normal phone, a plus phone, and a cheaper phone are straight out of the Samsung playbook they've been operating for ages. They had the wireless buds as well.

Nope, sorry, I know it’s difficult to hear from me, but IMO Samsung has just looked at Apple’s business strategy and gone hey, that’s great let’s copy it..

So far as I know at launch Samsung has never had a Galaxy S model of the usual size flagship version, the plus size flagship version, and a new size cheaper cut down version with lower res screen, less RAM but same SOC.
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Still not liking the hole. Almost as ugly as the wide notch. And, is it a dead touch spot? What if you have a UI element to need to touch/close/etc.?

Hope they can get rid of it with the upcoming Galaxy Note 10.

Yeah I’d rather have a notch then an annoying little dot!
 
The screen looks nice in ads, but it still has a bit of a chin and a navigation bar at the bottom that’s always there.

You get choice with the Samsung phones for a while now, you can turn the nav bar off when you want.
 
I hate when Samsung teases me...am i the only one who always say i won't buy a new phone for the year....im just gonna say it and hope it becomes true....Goddd Samsung!!!!! Respectfully bowing................

Don’t drop the soap loverboy
 
sort of. IOS dynamically resizes an apps ram in the background as more apps are launched in the background. So it can keep more in the background(and of course store state on disk as you say). On the other hand android can't do that. It keeps the apps in the background with their full ram requirements. Once that's full older apps are closed to make way for newer apps as they're opened. So android does need more ram to keep an equal number of apps in the background. Depending on the number of apps. With the current amount of ram in phones I'd say it's a non issue.
I'm not sure you really understand what you are reading. Yes, iOS compresses apps in RAM but they are NOT able to be used simultaneously, it simply just saves the current state of the app. On Android, apps stored in Ram can actually be truly multitasked in real time. Just like a computer.
 



At an "Unpacked" event in San Francisco, California, Samsung today unveiled its 2019 device lineup, with a range of smartphones that will be competing with Apple's 2018 and 2019 devices.

Samsung's biggest announcement was the impressive Galaxy Fold, that can transform from a 4.6-inch smartphone to a 7.3-inch tablet for $1,980, but Samsung also had a whole line of other smartphones, including the Galaxy S10 and S10+.

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Both devices use an "Infinity-O" display with smaller camera cutouts. The 6.1-inch Galaxy S10 has a super small hole punch cutout at the top of the display for the 10-megapixel camera, while the 6.4-inch Galaxy S10+, which has two cameras (8 and 10 megapixels) and an RGB depth sensor for adjusting depth of field, has a slightly larger oval-shaped cutout.

The display maxes out at 1,200 nits of brightness, which beats the iPhone, and it offers 60 million colors at 100 percent accuracy. It supports HDR10+ and cuts down on blue light by 44 percent for more comfortable viewing.

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Underneath the display of the S10 and S10+ is an ultrasonic fingerprint scanner for biometric security. Samsung says that because it uses ultrasonic technology, it works well in bright light and in wet conditions. Samsung is using "vault-like security" for more protection.

The new smartphones come in different glass finishes, and there's also a premium ceramic option in black or white.

There's a triple-rear camera system in the S10 smartphones, with a 12-megapixel wide-angle lens, a 12-megapixel telephoto lens, and a 16-megapixel ultra-wide 120 degree lens for wider-angle landscape shots. It's able to record video in HDR10+ and features advanced stabilization.


The Galaxy S10 features a 3,400mAh battery, while the S10+ has a 4,100mAh battery. The S10 has 128 and 512GB storage options, as does the S10+, but the S10+ also has a premium tier 1TB storage option.

Samsung's new devices feature a Wireless PowerShare option that lets a Samsung smartphone wirelessly charge another device such as a second Samsung phone or Samsung's upcoming earbuds.


Pricing on the S10 starts at $900, while the S10+ starts at $1,000.

Along with the Galaxy S10 and S10+, Samsung is introducing two other smartphones that are lower and higher-end. The Galaxy S10e, a lower-cost device that sounds like an iPhone XR competitor, features a 5.8-inch display and a $750 price tag. It features just two rear cameras and a 3,100mAh battery.

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On the high end, Samsung debuted the Galaxy S10 5G, a smartphone that features a 6.7-inch display, 5G connectivity, and all of the other bells and whistles of the S10 lineup. It features 256GB of storage and a 10-megapixel front-facing camera with a 3D depth sensor, and instead of three rear cameras, it has four: a telephoto, a wide-angle, an ultra wide-angle, and a 3D Depth camera.

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Samsung will accept pre-orders for the Galaxy S10e, S10, and S10+ starting on February 21, with the smartphones set to launch on March 8. The higher-end Galaxy S10 5G will launch in the second quarter of 2019, with pricing not yet announced.

Article Link: Samsung Debuts Galaxy S10 and S10+, Along With Premium S10 5G and Lower-Cost S10e
Apple better bring it. These look nice!!!
 
and you said the other dude is a samsung fan. You seem to me you are the all in apple fanboy making up stuff. Apps in iOS are suspended with limited functionalities and services and not running. I guess it's pointless to answer you actually
I don't think you comprehended anything I wrote. I never said anyone was a Samsung fan(you're thinking of someone else). Nor did I say, in my post you quoted, that apps aren't suspended. In fact I said their state is saved. I never said anything about their functionality in that state.
 
I'm not sure you really understand what you are reading. Yes, iOS compresses apps in RAM but they are NOT able to be used simultaneously, it simply just saves the current state of the app. On Android, apps stored in Ram can actually be truly multitasked in real time. Just like a computer.
I never said otherwise. I said it can keep more in the background. I didn't say what their state was in the background or what they're doing.
 
I never said otherwise.
Then i'm not sure why you made a comment about the RAM management on iOS being "better" then on android as its not a straightforward comparison, One of them uses more ram as it is needed for TRUE multitasking. The other simply saves the state of an App in ram and compresses it so less RAM is needed at the cost of not being able to multitask. Furthermore with 8GB of ram standard on the S10 it really makes the whole topic obsolete.
 
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Storage, Screen, Battery Life, RAM, Camera, Audio Quality etc...
Oh yeah I know lol. But the others thing you listed would have Apple fans argue that ram doesn't matter, nor camera, etc. Storage is 1 thing that can't be subjective.
 
Every Android I’ve ever used has slight UI lag. The OS just simply prioritizes things differently. Have you ever even used an iOS device?

Yeah. everything up to the 6S. Whats funny is the older ones are still useful. my original iphone still gets hours and hours of battery life as a music player in the car. more than the 6S does in standby.
Have you ever used any androids besides carrier-subsidised cheap junk?
 
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