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Carrying a phone and tablet in your pocket is hardly gimmicky. For example, did you ever try doing remote desktop on a phone? Forget it. But on a Fold, it's actually usable. The same with web browsing. Not fun on a phone. But on a Foldable, again, its much more enjoyable.

It's time to accept that Samsung phones are just as good as Apples' and, quite frankly, more innovative.
I don’t do remote desktop. Most of people I know don’t do remote desktop. I am not saying it is entirely pointless. But if I were to do remote desktopping on multiple occasions I would carry a macbook air with me
 
I don’t do remote desktop. Most of people I know don’t do remote desktop. I am not saying it is entirely pointless. But if I were to do remote desktopping on multiple occasions I would carry a macbook air with me

Why are people locking in on remote desktop, the big one is stuff like web browsing which was mentioned in that post. That’s something that isn’t fun at all on a phone, even at home I’d rather walk to another unit and do it than use my phone for it. A foldable with a bigger screen is much nicer for that and something I actually used when I had one before.
 
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I really don’t understand why people would be against a bigger screen that fits in your pocket, aren’t people using their phones for other things than calling, texting and music? I find it kind of infuriating that Apples tech isn’t further than it is today when my iPhone is actively used for the same thing as the first iPhones was. It has a lot of passive new uses like being the key for my car and so on but screen on usage is the same where anything outside calling/texting/music is only as a last resort when out and about without a properly usable unit.
 
Apple copies Samsung too. Not sure the fixation on seeing it only going one way. Waiting for Apple to "do it right" is an age long gone. "It just works" hasn't been an Apple thing for a long time.
Re: "it just works" - the recent HomeKit update was the first time I've had a serious problem with an Apple service since the early days of iTunes Match mangling my collection. Given how vast their ecosystem is now, I still find Apple incredibly reliable on a daily basis.

An area where I see a lot of people struggling: coming from a competing product or service that has a different approach to a task or action. Apple's way of doing things takes getting used to in some cases, unless you start with it.
 
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I don’t do remote desktop. Most of people I know don’t do remote desktop. I am not saying it is entirely pointless. But if I were to do remote desktopping on multiple occasions I would carry a macbook air with me
There's a lot of us IT types that use remote desktop a LOT, enough to make up for those that don't.

One of my ugliest memories of RDP was sitting in a Microsoft conference. I had a Blackberry Pearl Flip phone. That looks like an old style flip phone with a *little* bit bigger screen. No touch, just the normal flip phone keyboard. My work main server crashed and I had to use a remote power switch, ping utilities, and then remote desktop to get everything back in shape. It worked and I basically had no trouble at all except my eyes got tired from squinting so much. :) Sometimes stuff happens and one might not have the right tool for the job, but we have to do what we have to do.

I use RDP (or VNC) daily these days, on both my android and iPhone. or a laptop, or an iPad. It's very handy. My windows laptop, a Thinkpad X13 is lighter than a Mackbook Air 13", and has a fan that I don't normally hear. I tried an M1 MBA and it didn't work out.
 
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I used Samsung for a while and never again. They amount of bloatware are crazy. The whole feel of it all is...cheap. It looks cheap and feels cheap.

Android are obviously a great OS, no denying that. But what Samsung does with it and with their products are not the greatest showcase for it. It baffles me that Samsung are such a big player in the phone/tablet business.
When you say bloatware, do you mean things like:
Its own browser, email client, contacts app, calendar app, photo app, news app... ?? I mean Apple would never ship a device with its own branded apps preinstalled now, would it?
 
but pray tell what have they actually copied from Samsung?

Large screen phones, like the Note. Apple fans used to mock them. Now the Max is the best selling phone. The Apple Pencil (the S-Pen was around since 2011). Using OLED screens. Edge to edge screens. Qi wireless chzrging. OIS. And soon, eventually, it will be folding phones. And don't forget, Samsung makes many of Apple's parts in their phones. Samsung has a small part in he high quality of Apple phones.

It's better for consumers that companies copy from each other. It makes better products.
 
However the form factor of the Z Flip is gorgeous and has very strong original Motorola RAZR vibes. I just wish they didn’t compromise the stuff I see as important for me. Different use cases. 👍
Yep, definitely different and that's okay. Choice is good. I just put my order in for Flip 5. :) And since the trade in deal was so insanely good, I decided to give the Galaxy watch a try again. I should get it in a couple weeks.. I'm looking forward to the better front screen!
 
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I’ve been trying carrying around my iPad Mini everywhere today to try see if that is a solution that works instead of a foldable since some people seem to think foldables aren’t adding anything but I haven’t left the apartment yet and I am already annoyed at how inconvenient it is to always have that in my hand.
 
Yep, definitely different and that's okay. Choice is good. I just put my order in for Flip 5. :) And since the trade in deal was so insanely good, I decided to give the Galaxy watch a try again. I should get it in a couple weeks.. I'm looking forward to the better front screen!

I have almost always had an iPhone as primary, and an Android as secondary. I ordered a Fold 5. This is the first year I am considering the Fold to be primary. For me personally, the Flip looks interesting, but I never have had the need to make an already pocketable phone even smaller. But a pocketable phone that turns into a tablet seems more useful. To each their own.
 
From what I hear the reliability on foldables is still not there. But I think the iPhone proposition is still very strong with high-quality software and hardware and ecosystem.
 
I have almost always had an iPhone as primary, and an Android as secondary.
Same here. But I've been thinking about switching primaries for once too. That's why I'm trying the samsung watch again. I'm not real confident it'll beat an apple watch, but we'll see. I actually wish Apple would make an app for android to use an Apple watch with it, but that's most likely not going to happen!
For me personally, the Flip looks interesting, but I never have had the need to make an already pocketable phone even smaller. But a pocketable phone that turns into a tablet seems more useful. To each their own.
Yep. <g> I can see the value of the fold definitely, but smaller is better for me.
 
Look , actual innovation. A company that gives its consumers what they want.
innovation | ˌinəˈvāSH(ə)n | noun | the action or process of innovating: innovation is crucial to the continuing success of any organization. • a new method, idea, product, etc.: technological innovations designed to save energy.

They have been at this folding gimmick for 5 generations and I still only managed to see only 'two' people actually own one... and they cracked their screens. It's still a solution looking for a problem and nobody has that problem. Might as well bring Zuck's metaverse into it.
 
innovation | ˌinəˈvāSH(ə)n | noun | the action or process of innovating: innovation is crucial to the continuing success of any organization. • a new method, idea, product, etc.: technological innovations designed to save energy.

They have been at this folding gimmick for 5 generations and I still only managed to see only 'two' people actually own one... and they cracked their screens. It's still a solution looking for a problem and nobody has that problem. Might as well bring Zuck's metaverse into it.

You must have very big pants pockets to fit your iPad into them, since you are saying this isn’t solving a problem. I wear normal sized pants so for me all that fits is a phone and no tablet.
 
Apple will follow the money. If they see that people want foldables, they will cook something up, stat.
Foldable iPhones will be for elite because Apple won't make consumers to buy bigger foldable iPhones. They get money from accessories like Apple Pencil, Keyboards, Programs, Subscriptions for movies.
 
There are a lot of comments on this article that make me question if I was still at MacRumors. :oops: Too much praise for this copy-cat company. I praise them for component development, but trying to one-up Apple on coolness is too cringeworthy.
 
I really don’t understand why people would be against a bigger screen that fits in your pocket, aren’t people using their phones for other things than calling, texting and music? I find it kind of infuriating that Apples tech isn’t further than it is today when my iPhone is actively used for the same thing as the first iPhones was. It has a lot of passive new uses like being the key for my car and so on but screen on usage is the same where anything outside calling/texting/music is only as a last resort when out and about without a properly usable unit.
don't think it's people are against having it but more for 1800 they don't want to have worse features when spending more.they want the best cameras, best durability. all question marks on current foldable.
 
There are a lot of comments on this article that make me question if I was still at MacRumors. :oops: Too much praise for this copy-cat company. I praise them for component development, but trying to one-up Apple on coolness is too cringeworthy.

As already pointed out, Apple copies too. Many of us appreciate the efforts of more than one company and are fans of the devices that are produced and their innovations. Not fans of a specific company, no matter what they do or produce. All companies make good and bad products. All of them. I like (or dislike) the product, not because of who makes them.

For example, no one makes a better tablet than Apple. But at the same time, I think their phones are getting stale. I like iPads and Folds. Not "I like Apple or Samsung." I don't care who makes it, I have no loyalty.
 
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