You do realize the top of the line iPhone 15 will be getting close to that $1800 mark. Especially if rumors of the price increases are true. So it seems price is starting to no longer matter when it comes to premium devices.
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You do realize the top of the line iPhone 15 will be getting close to that $1800 mark. Especially if rumors of the price increases are true. So it seems price is starting to no longer matter when it comes to premium devices.
If that is the case why are people buying iPhones? They don’t have the best durability or best cameras. Better than the folds but not the best ones in a phone.
And why are people raving about cameras nowadays, have everyone become professional photographers using their phones to make a living? Because that is the only reason I can see why it would be noteworthy when a camera is a couple of percent better than another one.
As for price with the introduction discounts I can buy a 256 GB Fold 5 for the same price as my 128 GB 14 Pro Max cost me at launch. The 15 Pro Max will probably cost more.
Apple never really innovated - unless you count making things consumer friendly innovation. If you want fragile, bleeding edge tech that costs a fortune and has a lot of problems knock yourself out.
What apple does is refine and perfect and make things that can be used by everyone.
Why are talking about top end price for? Starting price you're still talking 600-700 price difference and like I said the pros will have the best cameras apple makes. Samsung don't offer the best cameras in their 1800 fold and the uitra models are simply more durable than the folds. I've owned the fold 2,3 and 4. Great tech but has certain compromises that normal slab phones don't
Not solving a problem since I don't need to bring my iPad with me everywhere. That's why I have an iPhone: for quick glances, calls, texts, and watching short cat videos. The iPad sits in a secret locked compartment in my car. Have no issues holding it while meeting with someone at a business. We're going to be sitting down anyway to talk.
Huh? There's nothing wrong with iPhones durability at all. Certainly not when compared to foldable displays.
IPhones do have some of the best cameras not sure why you think they dont. You also missed my point I meant foldables don't have the best cameras that these brands can offer.
Z fold doesn't have s23 ultra level cameras
Pixel fold down at have pixel 7 pro cameras
Same for the Chinese brands
None are offering the best cameras in their foldables like we see in their main slab phones and apple would be no different due to cost ressons
As for discounts good for you most regions don't have that benefit. They sure as hell wouldn't cost the same in most places
And yes cameras are the key in any upgrade. It's the main reason for people to upgrade
I count that as innovation, and a good kind at that. The iPhone 3GS and the 4 were truly innovative and a risk for Apple to make. They did a good job back then.
If you're talking about the fold and the flip, that's not bleeding edge, it's on its 5th version and almost every phone company but Apple makes one. And the flip is about the same price as an iphone 14 Pro. I'll be on my 4th one in a couple weeks and I've never had a breakage, so I think the fragile part is more rumor than fact.
Doesn't it get too hot in the car? I'm afraid of leaving my phone in the car in summer, as it gets HOT here!
You said people want the best cameras and best durability and a glass slab isn’t the most durable phone out there. But apparently you meant the best camera a specific company makes. Either way we are talking very small differences and I doubt the people liking someones picture of their lunch sandwich will notice a big difference in the sharpness, it’s just a spec war to have something new at all.
I am sure most people would get a bigger real life difference from actually being able to see a larger screen than the small camera differences. It will be the whole “big screen phone thing” all over again where Apple fans said big screens were useless etc and as soon as Apple launched their own big screen phone that was the best thing ever.
Samsung have big discounts in most markets at introduction, either through additional trade in value, giving out free headphones/watches as well as giving out 10% discount codes just for signing up to a news mail that you can use. Sweden where I live have one of the worst deals for the Fold and it is still cheaper than my iPhone was for the same storage size.
If I know I might need it, I do bring it. Usually, I don’t need it or don’t leave it unattended for too long because of carjackers.
Durability wise normal slab phones are far more durable than foldable devices which will also cost alot more to fix. That's the concern for the everyday user. It's not something that will be used everywhere and for the cost that's the concern
I've never once said people wouldn't enjoy the experience if apple did bring one out as it would certainly be polished for people to use like an iPad when unfolded.
However the cost is the sticking point and if people are paying this level of people they would want no concerns from durability, best cameras that the pro iPhone has, best specs
Samsung do offer great discounts with trade Ins if you live in US but that's if you use a previous fold
Here in UK trade Ins are awful. 650 is all you can get for a fold 4 when trading in. So would still cost you 1200 after trading in your phone
Apple seem far more interested in vision pro and the glasses as that's likely the true future of tech. So if they bring out a foldable I doubt it will be a phone and if they wait until 2025 onwards I don't see why they would start when vision pro is in their future
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Makes sense. I do wish one of the innovations some company comes up with is resistance to heat.
I can 100% say that the vision pro is not the future, people will not walk around town with a headset like that. I do think glasses are the future but the tech to make normal looking glasses with an all day battery life is probably 10-20 years away at this point. We shouldn't be content with having the same slabs with the same usability we've had for 16 years for another 20.
Vision pro is basically first stage of what the glasses will be so for that reason it's the future of tech. Glasses I think we could see them in 5-10 years given how quickly technology moves on.
While you may not see vision pro being worn down the street how many foldables do you generally see walking down the street? Not many.
That said I would love if Apple did focus on a foldable I just don’t think it’s likely due to the current compromises they provide. Apples standards are often twisted and not the same as other companies.
There have been many reports of the inner screen protectors of foldable phones delaminating after one year. I consider a nearly-guaranteed repair bill one year into ownership a huge inconvenience, especially after you've already paid $1,800 for it. There have also been reports of foldable phones experiencing broken screens and broken hinges. These are flimsy things! Wise customers tend to avoid flimsy products, especially expensive ones!
That's why, as CNBC's Todd Haselton reports, foldable phones need to mature in several ways before they're ready for mainstream customers:
What needs to change before folding phones become something everyone wants
Folding phones are too expensive and there isn't much benefit to consumers just yet. Here's what needs to change so that folding phones become mainstream. Hint: Apple should build a folding iPhone.
Long term I really think is the future, but before people start using them out and about as a phone/tablet/laptop replacement they will need to be a lot smaller so it isn't walking around with a ski headset. And I think that tech with batteries and all isn't going to be here for a while.
The vision pro as it is with current tech is more something I can see people use at home or at the office and such rather than a phone replacement like a foldable is. But hopefully with time it can evolve to something more slimmed down.
Many doesn't even come close to all or even a sizable percentage of them. Like I said, overblown.
Have you ever owned one? They are not flimsy.
Your article was about the state they were in 3 years ago. Ancient history...
Since I've never had a failure, it's obvious to me that it's not as bad as you claim.
The Apple Watch is tops, but the Samsung watch is pretty good too, and the 6 Classic is bringing back the face dial - which is way better than that little scroll wheel on the Apple Watch. I hate that scroll wheel.
I went with the non classic. I haven't seen one for a long time, so I went with the best price. I think it'll be okay. Yeah, I don't particularly like the scroll wheel either and usually just scroll with touch.
I think having 8 of the top 10 phones in sales globally shows they’re still doing a good job now. They keep pushing the camera, especially the video to a level where no one can really tell if it’s a phone or something costing 10’s of thousands that took it. Apple have innovated that entire market, if not the hardware.
With regard to fragility, or rather, damage. Surely the inside screen is likely to suffer being soft plastic?
I can think of a number of reasons.
1) Since flip/fold smartphones need to include a competitive camera, there is a hard limit as to how thin Samsung can make them when unfolded. Samsung does not draw attention to the device’s thickness. In fine print, at the bottom of the website, these foldable devices are more than twice as thick as the iPhone.
Price.
2) Folding phones offer a larger screen, with the caveat that the user has to unfold and fold them every time. It’s still a design issue however I think about it.
3) Pricing and the lack of tablet app support for android continue to represent a barrier to adoption.
4) I feel it goes against Apple’s tenet of simplicity. Apple devices tend to have a singular goal, and everything deemed superfluous or unnecessary is stripped out. A folding device contradicts those design fundamentals, because it requires you to make design choices that end up compromising both sides.
I don’t see folding phones ever being anything more than a niche product category. We are looking more at a curved screen sort of paradigm rather than the next phablet.
I think both models have a scroll dial. But the Classic is physical, while the non-Classic is touch.