Samsung Demands Another Retrial, Says 'No Reasonable Jury' Could Have Sided With Apple

[Swift]

Can't blame Samsung, $500MM is a lot of money for anyone. It makes every sense to try and reduce the fine.

Just put 'em in the chair and turn on the electricity, already.

 

[Black Magic]

I hope people realize how ridiculous this is.

It's a stalling tactic to avoid paying for a long time.....

 

[Swift]

How many times have Apple copied Samsung? Many I would have thought as Samsung come out with new tech before Apple do
https://news.softpedia.com/news/how-apple-copied-samsung-and-android-in-ios-11-video-516404.shtml

FaceID, for instance? Samsung's was a curiosity with no security. FaceID works, better than fingerprint.

 

[rockarollr]

This flipping trial is NEVER going to end. How many appeals can be legally filed in one case? I feel like, whatever that limit is, it has already been exceeded... or it certainly should have been!

Jesus.

 

[droog]

macrumors will ride the samsung vs apple clickbait to their graves.

 

[GregJohn]

Cuts too much into Samsung’s revenue they are scared

 

[farmboy]

This lawsuit was ridiculous from day 1. Apple's demands are ridiculous, Apple's claims are ridiculous, especially since none of the companies involved have lost any money over the activity of the other. Only the lawsuit from Oracle against Google because of Java is even more ridiculous. But well, in a world in which intellectual property are more important than anything, this is not surprising, it doesn't help the competition though.

We're glad that you have arbitrarily decided that no one was harmed by any theft of IP. Let's just say that the facts, the law, and separate juries, disagree with you.

 

[IWantItThatWay]

This flipping trial is NEVER going to end. How many appeals can be legally filed in one case? I feel like, whatever that limit is, it has already been exceeded... or it certainly should have been!

Jesus.

The appellate system needs heavy reform. It's ridiculous. Both in civil and criminal courts.

 

[Mirice99]

Just pay up Sammy!! Enough!

Just like Apple paid up when being found to have stolen patents from VirneTx?
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Just pay up you glorified knock-off makers. It’s a fraction of what you’ve earned from your sleazy movies. There isn’t a sing thread of originality in your entire company. Can’t wait for the chinese eat your lunch, at least they are upfront about being copycats.

I will copy and paste those every time Apple loses a lawsuit like the one they lost with Virnetx, oh wait anytime Apple is sued it’s by a patent troll.

 

[CTHarrryH]

I wonder how many millions of dollars have gone to lawyers fees and how much more will be spent on this effort. When will the fees exceed the settlement. Lawyers must really love this and the other 10,000,000 suits that Apple has going on

 

[JustTheFactsMaam]

Just pay up Sammy!! Enough!

Wrong Samsung! Any reasonable jury would have required you to stop selling your phones in the United States until you paid Apple a per device fee for every phone previously and going forward until Apple is properly compensated!

 

[dingle19]

I'm unsure how they get away with saying things like "...obtain an outcome that does not hinder creativity".

Samsung's very existence in the mobile market is itself a "hinderance of creativity", hence the lawsuit. It's not like Apple is suing them for having highly creative ideas. I hope they end up losing even more money litigating a 3rd "unfavorable outcome that hinders their creativity"

 

[eoblaed]

A widely circulated document with annotations by Samsung execs on how to copy Apple.
A UI that looked exactly like iOS at the time.
A phone that looked very similar to the iPhones at the time.
Multiple trials and jury awards seeing the obvious and awarding damages to Apple from Samsung.

Samsung: "How can anyone think we copied Apple? Retrial! (again)"

 

[nfl46]

Sigh, give it up, Samsung! Jeez! This should have BEEN over.

 

[joeblow7777]

This is how the game is played, people. Apple would be doing the same thing if the situation was reversed.

 

[Michael Goff]

Cuts too much into Samsung’s revenue they are scared

Scared? They're scared of what amounts to a slap on the wrist? Puh-lease.
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Wrong Samsung! Any reasonable jury would have required you to stop selling your phones in the United States until you paid Apple a per device fee for every phone previously and going forward until Apple is properly compensated!

Why do you want fewer choices in the US?

 

[Jimmy James]

Samsung only wants this to continue so they can uncover more of Apple’s older designs in detail. They want as much info as possible because they don’t know how to think for themselves. The only reason they have the “Edges” on their flagships is because they knew Apple was planning on it with their iPhone 6 at the time, although Apple went with subtle curved edges to the bezel not the screen itself. Samsung took the opportunity to take it further before Apple did. Apple were going to go the edge route too but never did because it would be now seen as copying Samsung. I’m glad they didn’t though because those edges are awful. They may look “sexy” and aesthetically pleasing but have ergonomic drawbacks like unintended touches, screen glare, distorted content and annoying reflections.

I was looking at someone using their curved screen phone and initially thought “cool”. Two seconds later I realized I wouldn’t want it for the reasons you mentioned. I hope Apple doesn’t go that route. Seems like a marketing gimmick.

 

[kemal]

Travesty! Samsung need to be able to be involved in choosing the reasonable jury.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Can't blame Samsung, $500MM is a lot of money for anyone. It makes every sense to try and reduce the fine.

They already did... and lost... repeatedly. They literally have documentation showing their team HOW TO COPY THE IPHONE. It's open and shut.

 

[Michael Goff]

They already did... and lost... repeatedly. They literally have documentation showing their team HOW TO COPY THE IPHONE. It's open and shut.

Notice how they're not arguing their innocence. They're arguing damages.

 

[EdT]

So next year Samsung will get a re(re-re) trial, and then the following year we can repost this headline and just put Apple where Samsung’s name is in the title. Repeat eternally.

 

[Rocketman]

The judge could rule that since the blatant ripoff is so blatant, that all phones MUST go immediately to landfills. Samsung keeps revisiting the issue so it should be resolved by the court.

 

[skitidetdu]

Apple should give Samsung a choice. Pay up, or Apple stops buying components from them as soon as they find other sources. This wouldn't be too hard.

As soon as they can they will, regardless how this ends up. Or at least they should in my opinion...

 

[joueboy]

As much as I thought this case is getting old and getting sillier each year. Samsung according to their own words they basically admitted their fault - only to pay less. They can play around but they’re guilty only they think $28 million guilty.

 

[convergent]

Maybe Samsung should be more original and stop ripping off Apple.

But really, I can't believe Steve Jobs fell for the same trick again. In the 80s, Microsoft backstabbed him with Windows. In the 00s, Google backstabbed him with Android. Steve was way too trusting. At times, he looks like Einstein in terms of being a genius, and others, he makes extremely stupid mistakes (turning Apple's entire board against him; not getting surgery ASAP; trusting Microsoft and Google; and many others).

Google did nothing but rip off Apple. Worse than Microsoft IMO. At least MS can point to Xerox.

Like Apple via Jobs ripped off everything from Xerox? Every technology company out there is using something they copied in some way from other companies, Apple included. The idea that a curved rectangle is the key thing copied is kind of ridiculous.

This is how the game is played, people. Apple would be doing the same thing if the situation was reversed.

Exactly. Samsung didn't create the laws, but they'd be irresponsible if they didn't follow them to as much of their benefit as they can. At some point it would probably be advisable for both to reach a settlement for something in between, but they are way too far apart for that at this point, which means it makes since to continue.