Let be explain a concept of statistical significance. 5% is not significant since actually battery life can vary by user based on their usage patterns and the quality of the networks they are on and the amount of network congestion in their area.Let's see which one of us comprehends. I said head to head the GS5 has more battery life than the iPhone. You said "The GS5 only has 5% more battery life..."
We both said the GS5 has more battery life. The conversation was never about how much more battery life. Nor was it about additional battery packs. Entering a thread without knowing the context and questioning the reading ability of the one of the participants is.
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This 5% you're quoting, where exactly did you pull that number? I based my assertion on a fairly trusted industry source. AnanTech tested both phones. GS5 at 10.32 hours and the iP5S at 8.75 hours. That's not 5% and is statistically significant, imo of course. Your opinion may differ.
Again, I'm not sure what this argument is about. We've both stated the GS5 has a longer battery life. Not sure where the disconnect is.
Good ad from Samsung.
Promotes the benefits of their device and the shortcomings of competitor devices.
Doesn't bash the user of other devices.
They did good with this one. Pretty clever.
Promotes the benefits of their device and the shortcomings of competitor devices.
Doesn't bash the user of other devices.
They did good with this one. Pretty clever.
Apple doesn't need to market their products and their features! In my case, as long as my iPhone charges up to 80% in 40 to 50 minutes i don't need a higher capacity battery! Charger at home, office and in the car!
Samsung phones are laggy and they suck up battery because of their lots of useless features! They're only good at advertisement!
Samsung phones are laggy and they suck up battery because of their lots of useless features! They're only good at advertisement!
The S5 has a 2800 mAh battery, not 2100. Don't know where you got that number from. Also the 5S has 1560.
But, but… but look how thin our iPhones are. Sure we may have to hug the wall because we lack room for batteries like those Samsung uses, but Samsung can't keep up with our iPhone's thinness. And what's important: getting to use a phone in situations where we haven't been able to find a charge at the usual time or having the thinnest phone?
Cue Billy Crystal as Fernando: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0RTD7250II
More seriously: I know this thread is going to fatten up with people attacking Samsung, this message and spinning it like it's an attack on Apple product users but I witness this very thing first hand when traveling and my family- all iPhone owners- are hunting for airport juice as soon as we get off a plane, literally hugging a wall just like it's shown there. For us, there's tangible, stinging truth in this ad.
Sure, there's also Android phones hunting for juice too but I would love to see Apple take this particular issue on in full, pairing iOS and Apple hardware optimizations with a comparably (bigger) battery (which doesn't mean iPhones have to get thicker). The truth that underlies the message of this commercial is much like the truth that underlied the Mac vs. PC ads- both resonate because of that truth.
If you travel with an iPhone and haven't ever had to hug a wall, good for you. But it happens. A lot. I see it and do it myself. I'd gladly trade some "thinnest ever" one-time hype for a bigger battery that would benefit us for the life of the device; 5s is plenty thin and yet 6 appears to be going for "thinnest". Why? Because thin is innovation? Because thin will deliver more benefit over time? Because the onerous thickness of 5s just had to be addressed? Because that one-time "wow!" effect in the launch presentation is worth all the subsequent wall-hugging? Because we want to pay more for a battery case too (so that we get the battery life we actually need)?
The funny thing is Samsung is advertising a "feature" that essentially bricks your phone 10% earlier. The only thing it lets you do is have your phone available to answer a call. Pretty worthless when your getting on a plane. Perhaps the reason you think you see more iPhone users than Android users charging their phones are these:
- There are more people using iPhones (undeniable, indisputable)
- People with iPhones are smart enough to charge their phone before they get on a plane (self-evident)
- iPhones are actually being used (every usage stat ever shown by anyone says so)
Could Apple make their battery last longer, sure. But it has always been about a balance between design and performance. Thin actually is innovation. Take your 5s back to 1984 and the first thing anyone will say is "wow" that is so thin. Thin is also design. They will keep making them thinner until you can roll them up.
Many iPad 2 users (including me) will tell you they could have never used an iPad 3/4 because they were thicker than the 2. Thinner is progress. If Apple did not make the iPhone thinner every other year, people would complain they have not done anything with the design.
By the way. The latest rumor shows the iPhone 6 with a bigger battery than the S5.
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Yeah, that power saving mode sounds really useful to people boarding a plane.
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Most airports now label their power outlets so you can find them....
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Huh?
Samsung needs to start looking in their own backyard. After the latest update my Note 3 can't even hold a charge for 24hrs with light usage. What a joke.
LOL yep all too common at work!! I know the Galaxy noises better than my own iPhone noises. And this is at a (large... ~10,000 employee) workplace where it is policy for work to issue iPhones (for enterprise...etc).
While I think the ad is clever, the lack of LTE and wifi in Ultra Power Saving Mode makes it essentially useless for me.
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Scratch that. I didn't see the video ad. The printed ad on the outlets is quite clever. The video just alienates potential customers.
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The ironic thing is that I just saw the add and the 3 models Samsung was offering were white, black, and gold.
I've never stuck to one brand/OS when it came to smartphones and have actually alternated every time.
OG Droid, iPhone 3G, Moto Droid X2, iPhone 4S, Samsung GS3, iPhone 5S.
So Samsung gained a customer due to having a larger screen and then lost a customer for having a device that just wouldn't work as it should. I also can't stand how much freedom apps have even with minimal permissions, they will still suck CPU/battery by running background services even if the app is never launched.
BT issue aside, my iPhones have just plain worked and with how Android is basically the Wild West in terms of apps I have no desire to go back to Android no matter what features they add to their phones.
iPhone users are "wall huggers" because we use our phones.
Android users are "wall huggers" because Android sucks.
OG Droid, iPhone 3G, Moto Droid X2, iPhone 4S, Samsung GS3, iPhone 5S.
- OG Droid was fine, just became quite slow after a couple of years.
- iPhone 3G was fine, though I had some random BT issues
- Droid X2 was a pile of crap that would crash and reboot every 1-2 days, wife had the same phone, same problem. Had it replaced under warranty. No difference. Wanted a phone with a larger screen and dual-core CPU and didn't care about 4G/LTE because we didn't have it in our area yet.
- 4S was fine but the screen was just too small to be useful for browsing the web, etc. Went to the GS3 to get a larger screen. Passed the 4S down to my mom nearly 2 years ago and it's been great for her.
- GS3 started out fine, but after a year it started developing problems. Maps would crash within a few minutes of starting to navigate, battery would be down to < 10% after 10 hours with virtually no use. I nuked a number of apps, that improved battery life and performance (The fact that apps can run ad services in the background even if the app isn't running annoyed me to no end). Maps issue remained. Factory reset, minimal apps. Battery life still horrible and down to 20% by 8pm with very little use (Primarily using my iPad at this point). I also could no longer connect it to my Mac to sync/back up. Not sure if it was a problem with Kies or the phone, but it had worked in the past (Not well, but I could get it to work if I fiddled with it), My employer would only replace it with the same model phone, so I dropped my corp phone/plan and went back to an iPhone on my personal account.
- 5S has been great, battery life is tons better and I'm still at 50% by the end of the day, unless I spend an hour or two playing games and then I'll be down to 10% by 8pm.
So Samsung gained a customer due to having a larger screen and then lost a customer for having a device that just wouldn't work as it should. I also can't stand how much freedom apps have even with minimal permissions, they will still suck CPU/battery by running background services even if the app is never launched.
BT issue aside, my iPhones have just plain worked and with how Android is basically the Wild West in terms of apps I have no desire to go back to Android no matter what features they add to their phones.
iPhone users are "wall huggers" because we use our phones.
Android users are "wall huggers" because Android sucks.
I always find the Samsung Wall-Hugger video funny, because it's always my Android devices that are running out of power way more often. Heck, can they even make tablets that can actually sleep for a week without running out of all their juice?
I can see a bit of the thing about certain android phones with replaceable batteries, but that's what portable battery chargers are for. I guess the commercial wants to make people forget or be oblivious to portable chargers which can have me not want for a power outlet for a day or two. Way longer than plane trips to my destination.
I can see a bit of the thing about certain android phones with replaceable batteries, but that's what portable battery chargers are for. I guess the commercial wants to make people forget or be oblivious to portable chargers which can have me not want for a power outlet for a day or two. Way longer than plane trips to my destination.
The ultra power saving mode is for extreme conditions, say for example if you are not going to be able to charge your phone. Imagine if your house was flooded, you go on vacation and you forget your charger etc it's not for everyday use. I've never used it but it's nice to know that it's there in case I ever need it.
Also Apple do poke fun of android at their keynotes.
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I only have experience of Samsung android phones and they have good battery life. However the I've used Samsung tabs , the nexus 7 and an Asus tablet and the battery life was rubbish on all of them. Standby time is appalling in particular and they take too long to charge.
Let me get this right. You're going to defend bad math with even worse math and flawed logic?
Where is the bad math and flawed logic? Whats hard to understand? Apple phones in the bench marks typically last only 5% less than samsung phones. Yet the apple phones typically have 50% less energy capacity, and 50% less battery wieght. Clearly apple is far more energy efficient.
So basically compared to android you are carrying around 50% extra battery weight to get 10% longer life. As has been said: How many people go and buy battery cases for their iphones? Hardly no one.
Samsung add won't appeal to many people. How many people want to put their phone into a mode where it basically becomes a dumb 3G phone instead of a smart phone? And how many people will chose to be like that instead of charging if they the opportunity? Very very few.
You mean if your phone was dying and you were near an outlet you WOULDN'T opt for ultra power saving mode???
Wall hugger!
Come on man. If you're going to use percentages in your quote at least have the courtesy to use the right percentages. That's what I mean by bad math. Your 5% and 50% are no where near correct.
Even if we use your bad numbers, you seem to overlook the Samsung battery is pushing larger phone. You're acting as if the larger battery is pushing the same size phone and only getting 5% better battery. That's what I mean by flawed logic.
Thing is, the correct info is easily accessible if you care to look. It might not fit your narrative though.
Well to further your point - his assessment (based on fact from the air) "How many people go and buy battery cases for their iphones? Hardly no one." is laughable.
Apple is in the habit of poking a little failed humor at Android in general, not a specific company like Samsung. I was waiting for the Note 4 unpacking t see what that was like to judge do I want the 5.5" iPhone or the Note 4. Give it a try and if I don't like it come back to iPhone later this year or next. I did like some of the Note features and the MicroSD card option. We will see what Apple has in store for us next week. If all the new iPhone brings is a larger screen and a faster processor, I will probably go for the Note. I love my iPhone and it's integration with my iPad, Mac, and ATV3, but I can live without some of it for awhile to see if I like the Note phone.
I have a gs5 and just did a test on my battery life with out using wifi and no power saving modes and just power used the cell like I normally do.
Right now its at 17 hours use and 4 hours onscreen time without never using wifi and staying on 4g lte.
Im at 25% now and I am totally sure I will break a day without needing a charge.If I were to use wifi at work I could easily get another 2 hours of screen time as the 4g sucks up juice.
3 people at work have iphones and every one of them is blown away on the battery life the gs5 gets.
We work 12 hour shifts together also so they can see me not having to charge the cell and every 3 hours I see them getting a quick boost on the wall.
BTW Im a power user on unlimted data and use my cell at work to stream music and already at 12 GB mid month.My point is my cell is being used 90% harder then the average iphone user and is pulling this battery life on 4g and not on wifi that saves a ton.
Right now its at 17 hours use and 4 hours onscreen time without never using wifi and staying on 4g lte.
Im at 25% now and I am totally sure I will break a day without needing a charge.If I were to use wifi at work I could easily get another 2 hours of screen time as the 4g sucks up juice.
3 people at work have iphones and every one of them is blown away on the battery life the gs5 gets.
We work 12 hour shifts together also so they can see me not having to charge the cell and every 3 hours I see them getting a quick boost on the wall.
BTW Im a power user on unlimted data and use my cell at work to stream music and already at 12 GB mid month.My point is my cell is being used 90% harder then the average iphone user and is pulling this battery life on 4g and not on wifi that saves a ton.