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Samsung Expected to Earn $4B More Making iPhone X Parts Than Galaxy S8 Parts

840quadra said:
More projections every week for both of these companies. Unfortunate WSJ has a pay walll, was curious if they also considered production issues that are rumored to be plaguing the iPhone X.

Going to be hard to make a profit on a device that may not sell in volumes, simply because they can’t make them.
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Serious question.

Do you or anyone else actually believe Apple is going to have trouble making literally a hundred million of the iPhone X over the next year?

Or perhaps a better question is: how can Samsung be making so much money from Apple on a device that doesn’t sell in large quantities?
 
Bane-Thunder said:
The iPhone X is a win for everyone :)

Can't wait to get mine, 256gb Silver :D
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I agree can't wait to preorder my X 256 in Black
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iapplelove said:
Damn that iPhone looks so much better than the galaxy, which pretty much looks like every buttonless smart phone.

Gladly embrassing iPhones new style.
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you beat me to the punch I was going to say the same thing bring on the X
 
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djcerla said:
Yup. It looks way nicer indeed.

I can't understand the popular belief that the iPhone X's notch is "ugly"... I do really like it, it gives a very unique "shape" to the phone.
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I don’t understand it either. People need to find something to complain about I guess. I look at it as bonus pixels for status indicators.

I guess those people would never buy a new car with LCD gages, because very few have exact rectangle displays. Which makes for wasted space as well.

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jamesrick80 said:
And I bet you never heard that the new diamond sub-pixel arrangement gives you three times the resolution of other oled display arrangements and even negates needing 4K resolution since it's so sharp. PPI is actually correct and even more enhanced.

Therefore, the newly designed Pentile displays you are speaking of are a sight to behold. They are sharper and more beautiful and highly accurate. So that 500+ ppi can actually artificially appear as a 4K screen with 1000+ ppi in certain situations due to a diamond sub-pixel arrangement with a wide color gamut.

It's a reason why Apple moved in on AMOLED when it actually became a truly advanced screen technology and the best display on mobile devices available period.
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ehhh... not so sure on the diamond subpixel layout
http://i.imgur.com/9owNUKH.jpg
 
Dave.UK said:
What screen technology?

Samsung phones have had OLED displays for many years!

Lets compare:

iPhone x - 2436x1125 (458 PPI)
Galaxy S8 - 2960x1440 (570 PPI)
Galaxy S8+ - 2960x1440 (529PPI)
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Some Galaxy S8’s had red tinted screens. Which Samsung suggested correcting by adjusting the colors yourself until it looks ok.

Do you know why this occurred and why it won’t happen with the iPhone X screens?
 
So as I suspected for some time, these companies are rather in a collaborative duopoly than in competition anymore. This means they collaborate on making us customers the ultimate sheep (a new hybrid of the former opposed i- or s-sheep)
Congrats to all !
Herds: try to unite instead of quarrel, because we should fight the collaborative suppliers...
 
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BvizioN said:
So you think hundreds of millions who did not mind fat bezels are all the sudden going to be bothered by a tiny thin notch with cameras on the top of the display? Honestly, Macrumors people never fail to amaze me!
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This comparison makes no sense. My 8 Plus with its fat bezels at least provides me with a 5.5" screen that doesn't obstruct the content displayed of my phone in any way. There's a huge difference between a stale design and a BAD user experience.
 
deanthedev said:
Serious question.

Do you or anyone else actually believe Apple is going to have trouble making literally a hundred million of the iPhone X over the next year?

Or perhaps a better question is: how can Samsung be making so much money from Apple on a device that doesn’t sell in large quantities?
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I question both as well, and feel it is a double edged sword. I can’t say what the future will bring, but if reports are true about Manufacturing issues with the X model, then it will be hard to meet demand, and to make lots of profit.
 
840quadra said:
I don’t understand it either. People need to find something to complain about I guess. I look at it as bonus pixels for status indicators.
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I personally think that if Apple had left the status ears' background black, and never expanded videos under it, nobody would care.

I guess those people would never buy a new car with LCD gauges, because very few have exact rectangle displays. Which makes for wasted space as well.
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The difference is that those odd shaped displays are usually still aesthetically pleasing (ditto for circular watch displays).

Whereas almost nobody seems to think the X thigh gap looks good in white.
 
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imran5720 said:
Can anyone confirm why its not possible to install cracked version of IOS on a galaxy s device? like OSX is done in hackintosh
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The Mac uses the same processor and chip set as Windows machines. While Hackintosh is interesting to do, the reality is that there's little reason to do it since so many applications are Windows-only. You saw a lot more Mac owners installing Windows on their machines, especially Macbooks, than Windows machine owners going the Hackintosh route. Also, while it's easy to build a Hackintosh desktop, not many laptops are suitable for a Hackintosh conversion.

When Android was in its infancy, there might have been a good reason to try to put iOS onto non-Apple hardware, but now Android is at least on parity with iOS, plus there are many Android applications for which there is no iOS equivalent due to iOS restrictions. Hard to imagine that anyone that is using Android would have any desire to install iOS on their device.

OTOH, you can install Android on a jail-broken iPhone and switch between the two operating systems. This could be useful if you need to run some of the Android-only apps on an iPhone.
 
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Seeing the side by side pic... man apple designs a nicer phone. Notch and all.
 
BvizioN said:
So you think hundreds of millions who did not mind fat bezels are all the sudden going to be bothered by a tiny thin notch with cameras on the top of the display? Honestly, Macrumors people never fail to amaze me!
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Gee man, feel free to obstruct your own phone (or Macbook, iMac...) screen with any notches, nozzles or bars, round or hexagon corners, whether in hardware or software, but give us people a rectangular screen, please.
 
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Dave.UK said:
I have indeed. The same PenTile that the iPhone X is rumoured to be using.
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That would make the iPhone X display significantly worse than the S8, given that the iPhone X would have a lower PPI without the increased subpixels' count of a true RGB arrangement to compensate for it.
 
840quadra said:
I question both as well, and feel it is a double edged sword. I can’t say what the future will bring, but if reports are true about Manufacturing issues with the X model, then it will be hard to meet demand, and to make lots of profit.
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People will wait for the X. The high price ensures high profit per unit. The X is the flagship Apple iPhone and if you were willing to spent $949 on a 256GB iPhone 8 Plus then another $200 for the 256GB iPhone X is almost lost in the noise, other than the psychological barrier of spending more than $1000 on a phone, though to some buyers the high price is part of the attraction of the X.

The iPhone 8 Plus is not a flagship. Its screen is smaller, and lower resolution than the less expensive Galaxy S8, let alone the S8+. and it lacks several of the features of the Galaxy S8. That's why no one was lining up for the iPhone 8. It will still sell well as those with the iPhone 6s begin to upgrade, but it's not something that many Apple fans will want.
 
deanthedev said:
Some Galaxy S8’s had red tinted screens. Which Samsung suggested correcting by adjusting the colors yourself until it looks ok.

Do you know why this occurred and why it won’t happen with the iPhone X screens?
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Why bring something up that was a easy software fix for the S8? If this occurs with your new iPhone X it would be a easy software fix as well. Thank goodness it was not a hardware issue like how the new iPhones are cracking open or having to lower the frequency and volume on the earpiece to avoid static.
 
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jamesrick80 said:
Why bring something up that was a easy software fix for the S8? If this occurs with your new iPhone X it would be a easy software fix as well. Thank goodness it was not a hardware issue like how the new iPhones are cracking open or having to lower the frequency and volume on the earpiece to avoid static.
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Lol, the jokes man, they are too funny.
 
zhandri said:
i would assume that apple decided to not make the screens brighter. apparently the X screen is the same technology as samsung uses in their S8 series but i know they had some issues with burn ins on the 7 and 8 series so apple probably wants to avoid that by not making the screens that bright
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That is true, the OLED screens have a big issue with burn-in. But there could be a software fix to prevent static images from remaining on the screen for more than a certain number of minutes. Reducing the brightness would not seem to be the proper way to deal with this issue.
 
kdarling said:
I personally think that if Apple had left the status ears' background black, and never expanded videos under it, nobody would care.
The difference is that those odd shaped displays are usually still aesthetically pleasing (ditto for circular watch displays).

Whereas almost nobody seems to think the X thigh gap looks good in white.
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On your first point - Agreed

On your second point, I don’t think it looks bad personally, and while I like circular smart watches, I feel they don’t translate well in tech devices for anything outside of the circular skewmorphic faces. That aside, I understand it is a personal feeling.

I should have worded the post you quoted more appropriately, I don’t see an issue with the “notch”, personally.

As I do understand personal opinions are important.
 
HarryDevlin said:
That is true, the OLED screens have a big issue with burn-in. But there could be a software fix to prevent static images from remaining on the screen for more than a certain number of minutes. Reducing the brightness would not seem to be the proper way to deal with this issue.
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my girlfriend's galaxy S7 has weird burn ins on the screen and they apparently have software that prevents burn ins. but the screen that is burned in, is what she uses on full brightness most of the time. so there is a connection between burn in and brightness. but i'll take the phone to a samsung service point soon and see if we can get it replaced for free. phone is not even a whole year old
 
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