Honestly, I DXOMark lost my confidence when they reviewed the iPhone 8 BEFORE the Note 8 which came out first, it told me all I needed to know about their biases, basically they will give whoever pays them enough money good marks.
Ha ha. The Note looks futuristic. And quite breathtaking. I find people who disagree have never physically held one and have not intention of doing.
The iPhone 8 looks like the iPhone 6. I saw one being used yesterday and had no idea it was a new phone. Amazing.
So. Stand back and think on. Will a slightly "better" video quality impress your friends enough for them to say "Hey. Isn't that the immediately recognisable iPhone 8 with the improved video performance?"
Or is it more likely they'll say "That's one beautiful looking phone man" when you pull out the Note?
(It was A rhetorical question the correct answer is the latter one).
It's all down to brand loyalty and ecosystem lock-in factor. Will old fashioned styling still be enough to make you stay. (Chances are very likely that it will be and that's a shame because the monopoly Apple once had is not there now and there's no shame in admitting it)
However. Although Samsung clearly is a much better release being a completely new design (as opposed to the 8 which is another rehash of old models) - this cannot be said of the iPhone X.
The iPhone X is a proper redesign (like the Samsungs) are so it is likely if improvements of video quality AND looks are important to you it is best you hang on a couple months. It then it will be up to you to ask if Samsung Note looks with an Apple logo are worth an extra £200 as you ask the bank manager for a £1000 loan to achieve it. Only he can tell you.
Meantime did you know that if we are to continue the bizarre Apple Roman numeral terminology then the iPhone X should be correctly referred to as: 'One Phone Ten'.
Now go. Into a generic phone shop. Ask to handle a Samsung Note. And a iPhone 8 Plus. Then decide and not before otherwise it will ruin the surprise that things have moved on a LOT since you last went into one and not the Apple Store as you insist on doing. Thanks.
Great specs all around, but when DPAF comes to smartphones I'll be excited --as well as truly amazed!.....The Note 8 is Samsung's first foray into the world of dual cameras and is a great success, offering the best zoom capabilities of any mobile device we've tested to date. Add to that PDAF autofocus, optical image stabilization, Auto HDR, and a massive 6.3" Super AMOLED display, and there's plenty for smartphone photography enthusiasts to get excited about.
Article Link: Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Ties iPhone 8 Plus in DxO Labs Camera Test
It’s all a moot point now isn’t it. Google’s event (still in progress) states DXO gave them a score of 98.
Liking the phone and liked the camera in the original pixel, but found it amusing that DXO missed the HUGE lens flare issue on that device. Was one of the many reason’s I thought their tests were more objective, than factual.
Still, the Pixel 2 is one of the few phones that interest me in this current market.
The Pixel 2 just outscored them both: https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
WTF. Who is making these tests? The S8's bokeh simulation is clearly wrong and I wonder why I'm the only one seeing this?![]()
Side question. Optical zoom. I'm just afraid camera lenses with optical zoom will break easier. My wife drops her iPhone 7 plus a lot. The camera has failed 2 x (black screen of death). So she had to have it replaced or repaired.
I'm just not sure long term longevity with optical zoom with moving parts.
Meh. For the average consumer, we reached a good enough camera in the 6. Anything since then isn’t really going to make much difference to the duck face selfies and dog pictures that are put on Instagram. If you are a pro, you probably going to invest in digital DLR setup.
The Samsung pic looks way over saturated, and the blur on the tree doesn’t make sense.
Scoring is highly suspicious since iPhone 8 Plus has slower autofocus, worse low light, significant lens flare at night and in daytime, half implemented OIS, low quality mono audio recording, worse selfie cam, hepatitis yellow skin tone, artificial sky color, etc.
Don't trust the Pixel 2 scores either until I see samples and other reviews.
goggle pixel 2 has a score of 98.iPhone X will win the tiebreak.
iPhone X will win the tiebreak.
I see it tooWTF. Who is making these tests? The S8's bokeh simulation is clearly wrong and I wonder why I'm the only one seeing this?![]()
And the Note 9 will still be slower. The Exynos in the Note 10 might match the A11 that I can get today.
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Performance is absolutely relevant. All the advances in software/features have only been possible because CPU and GPU manufacturers have been constantly improving performance on their devices.
Things like animation or photo and video editing (just to pick a few obvious ones) used to be available only to those who could shell out $10K (or even $100K) for a high-end workstation. Now everyone has access to these abilities.
I cant wait to see what developers come up with as our portable devices already match the performance of some desktops/notebooks.
Having handled and used the Note 8, it's awkward, feels fragile, and from the pics I've seen it shoot, I continue to not be impressed by Samsung's photo processing.
Bash the (mostly) non-changing design of the 6-8 series iPhones all you want, but I can walk into a store or browse a website and find hundreds of case, screen protector, and accessory options all because the design and dimensions didn't change (much). You can't do that with any other device. Hell, I've got cases from my 5S that I'm using on my SE because the design didn't change.
OK, what exactly is awkward and fragile about the Note 8? The iPhone 8+ is made of glass, just like the Note 8. Having handled them both, they are equally scary to be walking around with outside their case. In a case, they are nearly the same size. If anything the fact that the Note 8 is a slightly narrower makes it easier to fit in the hand. The finger print sensor on them both are not perfect... on the front with the iPhone its very hard to unlock one handed because you have a huge amount of weight pinching between thumb and fingers on the back. With the Note 8, they put it a little two high, but you can open one handed... or just use face. So awkward and fragile I would say is more muscle memory than anything else. Making phones of glass is just silly for both companies... they should be able to find a material that isn't fragile that works with wireless charging. Case makers seem to have figured it out!
On picture quality, I find it hard to compare easily just looking at pictures on the phones because the screens are so different in look. I honestly think the picture quality is probably much of a wash with some pros and cons back and forth, but in day to day operation no one is going to care. In the software, there are some interesting features and an advanced editor you may not have seen if you just played. For example, you can do the fake bokeh with selfies ... works on both cameras. And you can adjust it after the picture is taken. Also, you can move the button for the camera to anywhere on the screen, so that awkward finger reach needed to hit the button taking a group selfie where you are almost dropping the camera (experienced this many times with 6s+) goes away allowing you to move the photo button to where you finger naturally ends up when holding the camera. There are probably apps that allow this, but the native camera on the Note 8 does it. And this kind of stuff does also impact photo quality. So again... I don't accept the "awkward" argument you've made. I think its lack of familiarity and muscle memory.
The 8 Plus is a sturdier feeling device (likely due to it's increase in mass over the 7 Plus) than the Note 8. I've handled both devices naked, and never once feared dropping my 7 Plus. I've only handled an 8 Plus in a store, and honestly the glass had more "traction" than the smooth aluminum back of previous Plus phones. The Note has a much thinner aluminum band around the edges and with both sheets of glass curving into it, a much small side to grip. And maybe you have small, grubby fingers but unlocking via Touch ID, one handed, on a Plus phone has never been an issue for me.
The issue is somewhat muted since I always use a case, but I'd still fear that Samsung's glass would shatter in a drop in a case, even in a Spigen Tough Armor.
Samsung's face/eye unlock? Yeah, have fun with that. It's already been proven to be horribly insecure.
As for photos, I'm looking at them objectively: On a monitor attached to a computer. I don't like Samsung's saccharine approach to sharpening and saturation. I want accurate photos, not pleasing photos. As you said, I can edit them after the fact if I want to blow out my contrast and colors.
For selfies, while they're a rarity, I still use the rear camera 9 times out of 10 for them. Never had an issue depressing the volume shutter button. I'd rather have a tap to focus/expose than an entire screen that is a shutter button, leaving the device to guess what I'm pointing at (that goes for Motorola as well).