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Amen. People that say a 4" screen is too big make me want to laugh. Seriously, 4" is too big for you? What are you, that guy with small hands from the Burger King commercials?

No, but some of the pockets on some of my dressier pants and shorts would have a hard time with a 4" screen. Cargo pants/shorts, no problem...but I don't always wear cargo pants/shorts. And jeans front pocket can be iffy depending on the brand.

Even if it fits, the wider the device, the more awkward it looks in a pocket.
 
No, but some of the pockets on some of my dressier pants and shorts would have a hard time with a 4" screen. Cargo pants/shorts, no problem...but I don't always wear cargo pants/shorts. And jeans front pocket can be iffy depending on the brand.

Even if it fits, the wider the device, the more awkward it looks in a pocket.

Lmao.. so much BS. Do you even know how much bigger .5 inches is diagonally? You'll barely notice. Anyone claiming it will make the phone to big is obviously arguing just for the sake of argument. I can't even take your post seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doj4eMfyKnE

At around the 2 minute mark in this video. The nexus s is barely bigger than the iphone 4.
 
While this looks like a nice phone there are a couple of problems. First, it is too large for one-handed use and to fit in pockets. Second, I worry about battery life with having to power such a large screen.
 
Lmao.. so much BS. Do you even know how much bigger .5 inches is diagonally? You'll barely notice. Anyone claiming it will make the phone to big is obviously arguing just for the sake of argument. I can't even take your post seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doj4eMfyKnE

At around the 2 minute mark in this video. The nexus s is barely bigger than the iphone 4.
Agreed.
I have a Moto Atrix (4" screen) and when held in my hand, I can't feel any noticeable difference between the two.
We're talking a couple of mm difference at best.

Atrix 63.5 x 117.75 x 10.95
iPhone 4 58.6 x 115.2 x 9.3
 
At -3 and counting (plus comments), I see that lots of people disagree. Then again, you would argue your own case wouldn't you? Just happens that you are on the opposition instead of the side that knows a 5"+ screen on a MOBILE PHONE is a tad ridiculous.

Anyway, put your money where your mouth is otherwise it's just forum diplomacy.

The Note is not a mobile phone.
This is a mobile phone.
It's like saying that a MacBook plus a printer equals a typewriter. Makes no sense.
 
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I would probably buy the Galasy S 2 if it had better resolution. It has the 4.3 screen, but the resolution is so bad that you can view the same amount of space on the 3.5 screen of the iPhone thanks to its higher resolution.

The Note has the higher resolution needed. Maybe the Nexus Prime will come with a 4.3 screen with the same HD resolution. Then, yes, I would probably chose that over the Note, but as long as Android devices don't come with HD resolution then the Note is the best option.

I would loooooooove an iPhone with 4.3 retina display, 8 megapixel with 1080p video recording, flash notifications, thinner design (Im starting to feel the 4 is bulky and too square), etc.

Ive being playing with the iPad 2 recently and I just perceived that the A5 chip is not as fast as the Samsungs Dual Core 1.2-1.4 chip. Thats another good point to buy the Note. On the youtube videos you can see how web pages load almost instantly and the OS moves very fluid and fast, more than iOS on the A5 chip.

I really feel the A5 chip is not that good nowadays comparing it to the new 1.4 dual cores of some Android devices.

Plus................. I need true multitasking for gods sake!!!
 
Okay...

Forgetting form factor and phone size, think of the massive battery consumption.

I guess all the extra room makes way for a bigger battery, but that huge screen MUST provide a massive drain, especially when you start booting up graphic-intense apps!
 
Forgetting form factor and phone size, think of the massive battery consumption.

I guess all the extra room makes way for a bigger battery, but that huge screen MUST provide a massive drain, especially when you start booting up graphic-intense apps!

Mate that probably fair enough, if one assumes that we like to use graphic intense apps.. Although I doubt it.

I just want to read the news and emails without having my eyes bleed out of my skull..

Id swap 1/2 of the battery capacity for 1-2 extra screen size inches... Again, I doubt that larger phones need this sacrifice...

Obviously we all have different priorities... I guess that is all this and similar posts are all about.. Getting the idea across that choice is not an enemy of tech. progress and more so the consumer.. me, you, him, her.. anyone :)

Unfortunately, I don't think Apple will go anywhere near anything I need... God forbid, someone might not buy an iPad..

3.5".. 3.7" at the most.. Although, I'd so love to be wrong...
 
Let me explain how manufacturing works. If Apple paid 50 cents for the buttons on the iPhone 4, instead of $1.00 per button as they did on the prior models, they are saving 50 cents per button, times the millions of phones they sell, if your good at math, you can figure out just how much money they saved which translates into massive profits. That's profit taking.

It's an indisputable fact that Apple has grown into one of the largest, most profitable companies in the world, by charging high prices for their products. Therefore by cutting corners, and maintaining what is widely reported as a 30% profit margin as compared to the competitions 7%, you can easily see how much Stevie Boy is lining the companies coffers with.

One look at their stock price will also confirm this. And I know from a first hand position, as I have been an Apple shareholder for over 15 years.


I'm happy for you and your friends, but this proves absolutely nothing.

If you do a search of this forum, there are many threads where the buttons are failing. It's a real problem. Apple typically likes to stick their head in the sand, and deny they build anything less than a perfect product. That's why they have the gall, to actually ask those coming in out of the warranty by a short few months to hand over $200.

There is a widely held concept in legal circles, it's called "Reasonable Service Life". For this button to fail this early, is not reasonable service life. Not when Apple has a track record of never having a home button issue on the years of prior models.


Garbage is what you put into the can.

I seriously think that people all over the world that buy Samsung Smartphones beginning with the Galaxy S series, would agree with you. I've had three now and they are quite nice.

Welcome to 2011, many products are made of plastic including a lot of highly stressed car parts and other components, so the myth that plastic isn't any good died in the 1950's. Material quality and sophistication is far superior today


I do respect your preference for a tiny screen, we all have different values.

However world wide, there is not one high end full featured Android smartphone that has a display smaller than a full 4.0" and ranging to over 5". So instead taking a narrow view of only the US, I prefer to take the big picture Global View.

The demand for the Galaxy S II is very high and that's why we are getting them last as compared to other countries. I was fortunate enough to be overseas on a business trip when they were released in the UK, and I bought one there. Brought it home to use on the AT&T network, and it's been stellar.

Finally I have included two links from the worlds foremost wireless phone site. One for the iPhone and one for the Galaxy S II. You will notice the voting poll results. One where people from all over the world rate the phones.

You will notice the iPhone is only rated at 6.9 out of 10.
http://goo.gl/Tzwi

The Samsung Galaxy S II is rated at an impressive 8.8 out of 10.
http://goo.gl/qcOQw

That speaks volumes about how a vast number of people all over the world view these two products.

Cheers :)

Lol and how many Apple haters went out of their way to vote negatively on that poll without ever getting within 10 feet of an evil iPhone. It's an open poll, what do you expect.

Not that the GS2 isn't lovely, but the iPhone 4 is NOT a 6.9/10 lmao
 
Agreed.
I have a Moto Atrix (4" screen) and when held in my hand, I can't feel any noticeable difference between the two.

Because there isn't a noticeable difference in screen width. The Motorla Atrix screen is 4" long diagonally but it's not meaningfully wider than the iPhone's screen because the 0.5" diagonal difference is mostly in the added length due to the difference aspect ratio.

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This is why one cannot assume "My 4" Android phone is fine in my hand so a 4" iPhone will be fine in my hand too." A 4" iPhone will be significantly wider than a 4" Android phones.

To illustrate my point further, here is a picture of the iPhone side by side with other phones of different display sizes. iPhone's screen is slightly wider than the Omnia 2's screen even though Omnia's screen diagonal is longer at 3.7".

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The LG new chocolate has a 4" screen, but that's not the 4" screen you're looking for. You cannot make straight comparisons just based on diagonals without taking the aspect ratio into account.
 
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Because there isn't a noticeable difference in screen width. The Motorla Atrix screen is 4" long diagonally but it's not meaningfully wider than the iPhone's screen because the 0.5" diagonal difference is mostly in the added length due to the difference aspect ratio.

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True... the Atrix has a 16:9 screen ratio. (qHD display)
The point being, Apple "can" make a 4" display for an iPhone without sacrificing the overall size of the phone.
Apple would have to give up it's oddball screen ratio.
It's not 4:3, but it's not 16:9 either.
 
People get too wrapped on screen sizes and forget the importance of clarity with text on the screen. I went and played with a Samsung Infuse 4G a few months back. A screen that is a full inch larger than an iPhone 4. Two things struck me immediately.

1) The build factor of the phone was so incredibly cheap compared to my iPhone.

2) More importantly, the text on the screen was significantly worse than on my iPhone. Sure, a larger screen and all. But what good is it if I can't clearly read text without having to zoom in?

Sites like Huff Post and NY Times, which are text heavy, were no better on the Infuse vs. my iPhone despite the screen size. The only advantage I see on these phones that aren't as sharp as a retina display is for video viewing and playing games.

That's why I'm essentially praying that the iPhone 5 will have a 4" retina display.

I have no desire to get the Note but I'm absolutely going to go play with a demo when they arrive in AT&T stores. I do see a market for such a large screen.
 
Why? There are only so many ways to design a slim tablet device.

I just mean the OS looks soooo similar...with the bottom dock and the way the icons are set up. Also, the dots that show which page you're on. It just seems unoriginal to me--I think they could have done a more unique layout with such a huge screen.
 
I just mean the OS looks soooo similar...with the bottom dock and the way the icons are set up. Also, the dots that show which page you're on. It just seems unoriginal to me--I think they could have done a more unique layout with such a huge screen.

Grid of application icons on a phone... WinMo, Palm, Nokia, SE, etc... they all had this way before the iPhone/iPad.
The Dock... Blackberry's have had a dock since forever... they also have a grid of... wait for it... icons for applications. :eek:

All features that pre-date the iPhone/iPad.
Now care to revisit the "originality" comment?

Go look at the actual home screen of just about any Android device... they look nothing like an iPhone home screen. Oh wait... there's that pesky dock. :rolleyes:

Can we all please drop the screen layout argument already.
Every single one of these features has been on various devices for nearly a decade.
 
People get too wrapped on screen sizes and forget the importance of clarity with text on the screen. I went and played with a Samsung Infuse 4G a few months back. A screen that is a full inch larger than an iPhone 4. Two things struck me immediately.

1) The build factor of the phone was so incredibly cheap compared to my iPhone.

2) More importantly, the text on the screen was significantly worse than on my iPhone. Sure, a larger screen and all. But what good is it if I can't clearly read text without having to zoom in?

Sites like Huff Post and NY Times, which are text heavy, were no better on the Infuse vs. my iPhone despite the screen size. The only advantage I see on these phones that aren't as sharp as a retina display is for video viewing and playing games.

That's why I'm essentially praying that the iPhone 5 will have a 4" retina display.

I have no desire to get the Note but I'm absolutely going to go play with a demo when they arrive in AT&T stores. I do see a market for such a large screen.

The Note isn't coming to the U.S. (sadly)

You'd have to order it out of country just to use it :p
 
The current portable market is forcing products like the Note. I love it :D

I don't know if I'll get it though, as much as the idea of a huge AMOLED screen with stylus compatibility (I like to sketch using my iOS devices and have several 3rd party stylus' for this sole purpose), it sacrifices the convenience of a smaller device which you can easily slip into your pocket.

Here's hoping that Apple push the boundaries with screen size with the iPhone 5, because now that smartphone functionality is more or less the same across devices (on the higher end of the scale anyway...), I'll be looking for the best balance between device size, and screen size/quality.
 
To me, it is actually kinda cool that Sammy is trying to bring back the stylus. I get tired of wiping fingerprints on my phone only to see it get smudged up minutes later.

They are not forcing anyone to use the stylus again. Yes, a stylus can feel so "old school" like this the 1990's or early 2000's again. I may not even use the stylus that much anymore since I am no longer used it or might probably lose it like I did for my DS lite. I just like that Sammy is giving us that "option" of using that stylus again. I never owned a Palm Pilot, but did have a Handspring Visor back in 2000. Samsung Galaxy Note is a descendant to those giants.

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^^ My Visor was the standard black. Remembering that old Palm OS it had makes me sad Palm is gone.

R.I.P. Palm (1992-2010)

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Agreed.
I have a Moto Atrix (4" screen) and when held in my hand, I can't feel any noticeable difference between the two.
We're talking a couple of mm difference at best.

Atrix 63.5 x 117.75 x 10.95
iPhone 4 58.6 x 115.2 x 9.3


One problem with the Atix in your argument is that its screen is 16:9 compared to the iPhones 16:10 ratio. A 4 in iPhone would be close to the width my guess of a 4.3 in Android phone due to the extra width of the screen. But yeah my Atrix has zero issues fitting in my pocket.
 
Its not just the 5.3 screen... Its also the HD resolution.

5.3 is not worth it if it had a lower resolution. But with big resolution then its gonna be a-m-a-z-i-n-g :D:D:D
 
Because there isn't a noticeable difference in screen width. The Motorla Atrix screen is 4" long diagonally but it's not meaningfully wider than the iPhone's screen because the 0.5" diagonal difference is mostly in the added length due to the difference aspect ratio.

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This is why one cannot assume "My 4" Android phone is fine in my hand so a 4" iPhone will be fine in my hand too." A 4" iPhone will be significantly wider than a 4" Android phones.

To illustrate my point further, here is a picture of the iPhone side by side with other phones of different display sizes. iPhone's screen is slightly wider than the Omnia 2's screen even though Omnia's screen diagonal is longer at 3.7".

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The LG new chocolate has a 4" screen, but that's not the 4" screen you're looking for. You cannot make straight comparisons just based on diagonals without taking the aspect ratio into account.

Great post!

So do you suspect that the maximum Apple will go to is 3.8" to preserve the Retina Display moinker, and keeping it as narrow-like as possible?
 
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