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Samsung Galaxy S5 to Include Home Button with Integrated Fingerprint Sensor
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I love how non-Apple users give us crap about our devices and then worship their copy cat phone manufacturers as the most innovative companies in the world. Hypocrites. Honestly people are always going to copy. It's not a big deal, but don't be an ass about it...
And I bet you $5 that when Apple announces a large screen iPhone, fandroids would scream how Apple have copied Samsung. Now wouldn't that be hilarious? Matter of fact, they are already saying that now, just by looking at some supposed to be iPhone 6 prototype. "OMG...OMG.... it looks exactly like SGS4"
And of course Apple would pump screen resolution but not much beyond what's needed.
I'm not claiming that Samsung was not "inspired" by the success of Apple's Touch ID. You want to call it "blatant copying"? Fine with me, but you have to remember that the latest releases of iOS are full of "blatant copies" of features "inspired" from Android, and the moment Apple finally releases a larger screen iPhone (which the market definately wants) it will be a "blatant copy" too. I'd rather talk about "taking inspiration", but at least be consistent.
I'm fine with copying ideas, everyone does that and it's by improving other ideas that we got the progress we have. Another thing is copying the implementation, which is not what Samsung did this time (assuming the article is correct).
About common sense, well everyone thinks to have it, it's not even an argument.
For those arguing who used 'S' first...
The first Samsung Galaxy phone was simply Samsung Galaxy. They then released a better version called the Samsung Galaxy S in 2010.
HTC also adopted the S naming convention by releasing a Desire S a year after the original Desire and also added the S suffix as their 2nd generation of many other phones.
Both HTC and Samsung used the 'S' after Apple.
The Samsung Galaxy S was the one that looked so much like an iPhone 3GS that my boss who was a big follower of Android (but prefers Nexus devices) joked to me when the SGS came out "I like your Samsung" referring to the 3GS I had at the time.
The original Samsung Galaxy was such rubbish that most people think the Samsung Galaxy S was the first in the series.
Original Samsung Galaxy (pre-Apple copying): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_(original)
Samsung Galaxy S: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S
The first Samsung Galaxy phone was simply Samsung Galaxy. They then released a better version called the Samsung Galaxy S in 2010.
HTC also adopted the S naming convention by releasing a Desire S a year after the original Desire and also added the S suffix as their 2nd generation of many other phones.
Both HTC and Samsung used the 'S' after Apple.
The Samsung Galaxy S was the one that looked so much like an iPhone 3GS that my boss who was a big follower of Android (but prefers Nexus devices) joked to me when the SGS came out "I like your Samsung" referring to the 3GS I had at the time.
The original Samsung Galaxy was such rubbish that most people think the Samsung Galaxy S was the first in the series.
Original Samsung Galaxy (pre-Apple copying): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_(original)
Samsung Galaxy S: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S
Do you think that will stop them from shipping a 64bit CPU?Too bad for Samsung there is no 64 bit version of Android
Because magazines, retards, Fandroids etc get all excited over resolution specs like that.
I'm far from an Apple fanboy but "Retina" displays make sense, you gain nothing but file size by having more pixels than the eye can distinguish and I wish the press would point this out more and start marking small super HD type devices down for it because it's actually a negative.
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It is a competition between two Global brands, they share ideas, they take ideas, they make ideas, eventually they will have the same ideas as each other and will most likely share them for some time. It was a brilliant/not so much idea that apple some how managed to acquire first, they probably put a hold for other companies to get it say a year and woolah now android/google/samsung has it.
It is a competition between two Global brands, they share ideas, they take ideas, they make ideas, eventually they will have the same ideas as each other and will most likely share them for some time. It was a brilliant/not so much idea that apple some how managed to acquire first, they probably put a hold for other companies to get it say a year and woolah now android/google/samsung has it.
Not every touch screen phone ever created copied the iPhone. The first touch resistive screen in mobile phones were originaly introduced by BQ, HP and Sony Ericsson. The multi-touch capacitive screen were originally and first implemented in a smartphone through the iPhone. When the iPhone come to the market, every major manufacture switched to this technology for their devices. However, some manufactures, like BB and Nokia, created their own OS interface arquitecture to take advantage of this multi-touch technolgy, while others, like Google, used it to create an OS which copied the core elements of the iOS. The core elements of the iOS are the ones that identify how the user interact with the multi-touch device, like for example swipes for scrooling and unlocking, switching between menus and selecting different options among others. Android feels and looks like iOS, which cant be said about BB OS or Windows Mobile which are completly different even thouh there could be some similarities. Some minor tweeks in the Android skin and you have iOS (some chinease manufactures even sell Android device with iOS skin which look exactly like iOS, and thats because no major changes are needed to make Android feel and look like iOS).
When I say Andrid copied iOS I dont refer to a "specific input method to preform a certain taks". I refer to the overall look and feel of the OS. Just like Windows copied Mac OS in the early ages of the industry, now is Android thats coping iOS in the mobile operating system field.
Apple also copied many things I admit, but its nothing compared to what the competition did with Apple and their ideas.
And one more thing. When we talk about who first invented a technology, what counts is who made it first available to the public and offered it in such form that it sold in million of devices and was sucesful. I dont care if some in the 1700s drown on a paper a multi-touch device, or if an old motorola device had a fingerpring sensor, a divice nobody bought or knew, because the implementation sucked.
So basically this study tells us, that the least viewing distance for a 5" FullHD Display (aka Samsung GS4) without noticing any difference is 4 feet? (1.2 m as a I had to convert)?!
I call BS, who were the testers? Hawks?!
Or was the study financed by Samsung itself?
Funny how other studies come to very different results..
Another Chart
Here it is fine to sit 4' from a 30" Display
WOW not surprised, they copy everything else from apple why not a this too
And Apple does not copy anything ever.....
And Apple does not copy anything ever.....
Just because we are accusing samsung of copying something, doesnt mean we are defending Apple on being totally innocent.
Its just that 2-3years down the road...when every tom, dick & harry smartphone has fingerprint technologies, droid fanbois will be arguing that Apple did not cause this *revolution*.
Bad execution deserves no credit.
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Yes I own a Samsung TV and a Samsung Blu-Ray Player.
I am "beyond embarrassment, beyond shame".
Do explain how before you go around insulting every single person who has ever bought one of their many products. You're including Apple in this insult because they buy chips and displays, every construction company who has ever used any Samsung Heavy Industry equipment, every Hospital that has ever bought Samsung medical equipment.
Oh no! Samsung used an idea that Apple used from somebody else. I guess that makes me as a customer who bought a different Samsung product beyond embarrassment and shame.
I didn't know Apple's fingerprint sensor was swipe and on the back of the phone.
Is there a 64 bit version of Android?
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This is frustrating. People said iOS needs to change... people said it needed to have somewhere users can access settings like wi-fi and bluetooth easily. Apple delivered.
If they release a phone with a bigger screen, how do you know they are not listening to what "the market definitely wants".
The market was not screaming for a fingerprint scanner, but Apple released it and now Samsung are too? Come on!
I'm assuming my Android friend who totally hammered Apple for the fingerprint sensor (totally insecure in his head as you carry the finger print everywhere you go touching everything haha) won't be using this feature when it reaches his Android phone finally...
hmmm...
I see Samsung's other "innovation" is to increase the screen size by .2 inches every year. At what point do they draw a line under it and go...yeah this is ****ing bonkers now?
hmmm...
I see Samsung's other "innovation" is to increase the screen size by .2 inches every year. At what point do they draw a line under it and go...yeah this is ****ing bonkers now?
The market was not screaming for larger screen smartphones, but others released them, and now (or better, I hope in the near future) Apple too? Come on!
Back to the point, I think you misunderstood me: I'm happy that Apple introduced changes to iOS and I'm perfectly fine that some of these changes are good ideas which were implemented in Android first. My point is against double standards. A couple of examples:
- Apple released a fingerprint scanner, the market reacted positively, Samsung takes the idea and implements it in his own devices too: Samsung blatantly copied Apple.
- Android introduces notifications, the market reacted positively, Apple takes the idea and implements it in his own devices too: Apple "got inspired" by Android.
- As soon as Apple releases a larger screen iPhone model (I can't wait!)... well you can imagine.
No.
You got it all wrong dude, that doesn't make any sense.
"The core elements of the iOS are the ones that identify how the user interact with the multi-touch device, like for example swipes for scrooling and unlocking, switching between menus and selecting different options among others. Android feels and looks like iOS, which cant be said about BB OS or Windows Mobile which are completly different even thouh there could be some similarities."
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I'll just add that some people confuse "blatant copying" with natural progression of technology. Screens, Processors, Memory - these are all things that will continue to improve and will be implemented. As 3rd party vendors develop new tech (software or hardware based) they will be adopted too. Someone will have to be "first" but that doesn't make subsequent implementations "blatant copying."
But that won't stop the noise in here, now will it?
I work in a company that writes apps for phones, tablets and connected TV's and I get exposure to lots of different devices so I regularly use Android and Windows devices as well as a lot of interesting TV systems and boxes like the Roku.
On the Android side of things I like the Samsung hardware but it is let down by poor software, they'd provide a better user experience if they shipped stock Android. They do crazy things like using their own app store (Samsung Apps) in addition to Google Play (not an ideal user experience), they have their own poorly executed version of Siri (S-voice) which doesn't work as well as Google's voice recognition.
Also it always surprises me when people get frustrated when their old iPhone is not supported by iOS and whine "I'm moving to Android", you're lucky to get a years worth of updates from Samsung (and then the carrier has to push it to your device) and even Google's flagship Nexus devices have only 18 months of updates, this has been confirmed by Google:
On the other hand, the iPhone 4 was released in 2010 and is still supported with updates by Apple.
Even those that don't like Apple/iPhone for legitimate reasons should acknowledge that Apple has really made the smartphone market interesting and whether you prefer Android or Windows Phone things wouldn't be as advanced now if it wasn't for iOS shaking up the market. Windows Phone users would probably still be trying to tap a tiny start button with their stylus.
That said if the iPad hadn't been so popular, then Ballmer might not have released the abomination of Windows 8.
I'd recommend the Nexus 5 to anyone who wants an Android device. The Windows Phones I've used come with a major design flaw that makes me want to throw them at a wall - they have a very sensitive search button that pops up Bing and it's very easy to touch accidentally and will make you exit the app you were running. ("You're holding it wrong" applies to a lot on Windows Phone 8 devices). Microsoft mandates that all Windows Phones have a search button in that position as they care more about promoting Bing than user experience.
Now the Kindle Fire HDX I'll rant about its many failings next time there's an Amazon article, it has so many poor design decisions that I'd not recommend it to anyone. Those in the UK who want a very cheap but still capable tablet should look at the Tesco Hudl. I'm not sure if the Hudl is available in other countries under a different name.
Some people complain that you can't delete the default Apple apps (I agree they should be removable, with an option in settings to restore them), but some Android phones also have crapware installed by the carriers that can't be removed, some of it for trial versions of paid apps.
A few things off the top of my head that make Apple more user friendly:
- Updates available when they're ready, the carriers can't hold them back
- The carrier can't install their own apps or otherwise skin or brand the phone
- Apple doesn't allow dummy display models in stores, if they want to show their phones in a store they need a real working model
- They don't have massive spec differences in different markets. I remember some of the Galaxy series had different CPU and RAM depending on whether they were sold in the US or Europe but they were still marketed under the same name.
Some of these issues are fixed by Nexus devices which is why I recommend them so highly, although everything being equal I still prefer iOS.
On the Android side of things I like the Samsung hardware but it is let down by poor software, they'd provide a better user experience if they shipped stock Android. They do crazy things like using their own app store (Samsung Apps) in addition to Google Play (not an ideal user experience), they have their own poorly executed version of Siri (S-voice) which doesn't work as well as Google's voice recognition.
Also it always surprises me when people get frustrated when their old iPhone is not supported by iOS and whine "I'm moving to Android", you're lucky to get a years worth of updates from Samsung (and then the carrier has to push it to your device) and even Google's flagship Nexus devices have only 18 months of updates, this has been confirmed by Google:
On the other hand, the iPhone 4 was released in 2010 and is still supported with updates by Apple.
Even those that don't like Apple/iPhone for legitimate reasons should acknowledge that Apple has really made the smartphone market interesting and whether you prefer Android or Windows Phone things wouldn't be as advanced now if it wasn't for iOS shaking up the market. Windows Phone users would probably still be trying to tap a tiny start button with their stylus.
That said if the iPad hadn't been so popular, then Ballmer might not have released the abomination of Windows 8.
I'd recommend the Nexus 5 to anyone who wants an Android device. The Windows Phones I've used come with a major design flaw that makes me want to throw them at a wall - they have a very sensitive search button that pops up Bing and it's very easy to touch accidentally and will make you exit the app you were running. ("You're holding it wrong" applies to a lot on Windows Phone 8 devices). Microsoft mandates that all Windows Phones have a search button in that position as they care more about promoting Bing than user experience.
Now the Kindle Fire HDX I'll rant about its many failings next time there's an Amazon article, it has so many poor design decisions that I'd not recommend it to anyone. Those in the UK who want a very cheap but still capable tablet should look at the Tesco Hudl. I'm not sure if the Hudl is available in other countries under a different name.
Some people complain that you can't delete the default Apple apps (I agree they should be removable, with an option in settings to restore them), but some Android phones also have crapware installed by the carriers that can't be removed, some of it for trial versions of paid apps.
A few things off the top of my head that make Apple more user friendly:
- Updates available when they're ready, the carriers can't hold them back
- The carrier can't install their own apps or otherwise skin or brand the phone
- Apple doesn't allow dummy display models in stores, if they want to show their phones in a store they need a real working model
- They don't have massive spec differences in different markets. I remember some of the Galaxy series had different CPU and RAM depending on whether they were sold in the US or Europe but they were still marketed under the same name.
Some of these issues are fixed by Nexus devices which is why I recommend them so highly, although everything being equal I still prefer iOS.
