Samsung Galaxy S8 Image Leak Reveals Design of 'iPhone 8' Rival [Updated]

[Arran]

My S7 Edge IS a bit of a pain to use. It's not so much that I have a problem with it, especially not with it cased, but if I hand my S7 Edge over to most other people so they can see photos or something else on my phone, the handoff invariably goes awry because they activate the edges and end up doing goodness knows what and hand the phone back to me in a panic, saying "What did I do, what did I do...I barely touched it!"

That reminds me of my Apple TV remote. Active edges are a pain in the neck for a device that gets handled and passed around. It's one of Apple's worst designs, IMHO. Spurious touches galore!

 

[Abazigal]

This is an interesting bunch of random statements.

I look forward to seeing the data to back up the statement that is what the "majority" of users do.

Of course the reason the majority of Apple users will pay is:

#1 They have no clue about technology and will buy anything Apple tells them to
#2 They are all fifteen years old
#3 They don't have anything else to do with their time

And thems the true facts based on specific data I just came up with after literally seconds of no research.

He is not wrong though.

Just do a quick google search and you will find tons of ways on how to download .APK files and pirate android apps.

http://developers.magmic.com/developing-on-ios-vs-android-there-is-one-clear-winner/

1. iOS devices are generally more expensive and therefore they attract people that are willing to spend more money, which translates to them spending more to purchase apps and make in-app purchases.
2. iOS doesn’t have a lot of market share in developing countries. This is where Android thrives with cheaper devices, however most of the people in these countries do not have access to credit cards and Android has been slow to adopt carrier billing which means users aren’t able to purchase apps. It is also important to note that Apple forces users to put in their credit card information and Android users have the option.
3. Since iOS is a closed system it is harder to pirate apps on iOS which is common practice on the Android platform causing a negative effect on revenue. When people are stealing the apps and not paying for them, revenue suffers.

http://venturebeat.com/2015/01/05/m...per-only-5-of-android-installs-were-paid-for/

Developer Ustwo had one of the break out mobile hits in 2014 with its isometric puzzler Monument Valley, but a successful game is not impervious to piracy. The studio confirmed on Twitter today that Monument Valley has had an especially tough time with “unpaid installs” on Android. The company said that 95 percent of the people playing the game on Google’s mobile operating system did not buy it — although, Ustwo did explain that a small number of those installs are legitimate and were not illegally downloaded. This makes a big dent in Ustwo’s earnings since Monument Valley is a premium-priced game that does not have in-app purchases like Candy Crush Saga or other lucrative mobile releases. Gaming on smart devices surpassed $21 billion last year, but it potentially could have more if it weren’t for piracy.

Feel free to refute my statements as to why the Google Play store is earning less than the iOS play store despite a larger user base. With the necessary data to back them up, if it's not too inconvenient for you.

 

[Eadfrith]

That looks amazing.... Remember, the iPhone 8 is supposedly only going to have 5.1 inches of usable screen with on screen buttons at the bottom...hmmm have to wait and see how that looks.

 

[Eggtastic]

A lot of hate for the curved screens, however I like them a lot. I hope apple goes forth with this type of design, or least a beze-less design.

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

Bixby?

Lol.

 

[paulryp]

I can recommend Samsung's flagship phones. I have an Edge S7 and its absolutely takes a big dump on anything apple has on the market. If this refines that, then its a Win Win for us the consumers and before you say it.....the play store is just as good as the apple store nowadays.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

Samsung always gains the upper hand over Apple with its spring phone releases. I don't know why Cupertino doesn't bring the iPhone launch date forward...

No surprise...
• Apple's release dates are no secret to anyone.
• The fact that Samsung gets display manufacturing business from Apple, gives them an idea about how the new iPhone will look.

 

[TurboPGT!]

Is that why the iPhone 8 is gonna have curved screens?

It won't.

That is just a recycled rumor that gets tossed around year after year and has already been confirmed false.

 

[DUIduckSAUCE]

Looks like I will be buying two $1000 phones this year.

 

[TurboPGT!]

No surprise...
• Apple's release dates are no secret to anyone.
• The fact that Samsung gets display manufacturing business from Apple, gives them an idea about how the new iPhone will look.

Just like the "curved display" that was sure to come out with iPhone 6 which Samsung rushed to market ahead of it?

 

[I7guy]

Wow that phone makes my mouth water. Looks like some futuristic sci-fi phone



It was affected by the Note 7 outlier. But loyal Samsung customers are waiting for the next big thing coz the Note 7 was basically an S7 Edge with an S pen.If the iPhone 8 uses the same features (which it does) this does and costs above 1k then I am buying it Day 1 and considering the huge price jump Apple is contemplating I wont be the only one. Dont care about what profits greedy companies make. AMD's Ryzen at 300 bucks is competing with Intel's Kabylake at 500 at nearly $200 less and they will never earn as much as Intel does.

Okay, fully support you if you want to go all Samsung.

I don't care about the profits either, I buy what I want. but profits are important to a company.

And I'm waiting for Apple to announce their next generation iPhones for what they actually are.

 

[kis]

More like... iPhone 7s Rival.

I hope you're kidding - the iPhone 7 Plus already looks like a brick next to the S7 EDGE. Samsung was at least a year ahead of Apple. That lead might shrink this year as Apple is now blatantly copying Samsung's design.

 

[FasterQuieter]

It is impressive how quickly Samsung are able to bring new technologies to market. Their ability to invent/implement original technologies is not so great. I still see them and Android as a tasteless rip off of the iPhone and iOS. The gap seems to close over time, but never anywhere near enough to make me consider switching.

 

[Jsameds]

While the Galaxy phones themselves are nice, the biggest problem with them when you compare directly to iPhone is the lack of support.

Here are a list of Galaxy S phones, their release year, their latest officially supported OS and that OS's release year

S2 (2011) - Jelly Bean (2012)
S3 (2012) - Kit Kat (2013)
S4 (2013) - Lollipop (2014)
S5 (2014) - Marshmallow (2015)

Compare that to iPhone where the iPhone 5 (2012) is running a 2017 OS.

It still amazes me this doesn't get brought up more. It's a huge factor when comparing like for like.

 

[kis]

Just like the "curved display" that was sure to come out with iPhone 6 which Samsung rushed to market ahead of it?

That's completely absurd, considering that Samsung knows exactly what screens Apple will use in their future phones. How do they know you may ask? Because they freaking make them.

They launched the curved screen display because they were the only company that actually could, technologically. It was true innovation - something that has been absent from Apple for years. Also, they had a clear vision for the screens - despite the fact that the S6 EDGE was only a moderate success, they kept pushing and refining the design to make it hugely successful with the S7 EDGE. Sound familiar? Yup, that's what Apple used to be able to do.

 

[5105973]

I fully devote to the iPhone and other Apple devices. That said, give Credit to where it's due, Samsung's Galaxy line has its advantages over the iPhone in terms of hardware and software as well. In some respects, the iPhone is stagnant in terms of hardware design, where as the Galaxy has been fairly dynamic this last year, aside from the Note debacle.

The Galaxy has its pitfalls, but the iPhone is far from leaps and bounds over the Galaxy. Speed and fluidity of the OS is noticeable, but that doesn't change a three-year design with incremental features updates (Speakers, haptic home button, etc). I'm not degrading the iPhone, but those are obvious reasons I stated.

So far we've noticed the iPhone 7 could use a boost to stereo recording to match what the S7 and S7 Edge can do. I'm also consistently getting better call quality over my S7, S7 Edge and HTC 10 and those phones are reported to have lower SAR levels, too. So I'd like to see Apple improve on that aspect as well. I've been surprised to be very pleased with the IPhone 7's camera. I find it reproduces what I actually see in terms of color accuracy and lighting conditions better than the much lauded Samsung cameras.

What I like about Samsung phones is that they tweak Android to do a myriad of little interesting things. One such feature on the Note 7 is the ability to do a distress call that simultaneously records and sends a video clip of the emergency to a preselected contact.

I'm holding out for the Note 8, myself. Meanwhile I'm interested in the LG G6. Their engineers put a lot of thought and effort into that phone, too, with a focus this time on reliability and durability and usability rather than attention getting gimmicks in design, so I am interested in at least checking it out.

 

[freddiecable]

I'd like that. In the end it will only be a 'sheet of glass/screen' and it will be the software/ecosystem that will be the competitive advantage.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

The battery supplier is Samsung, you know the same Samsung that makes iPhone batteries. The problem was the design of the Note itself

For which iPhone? The iPhone 6 and 7 have batteries from Simplo Technology, not Samsung.

 

[kis]

It still amazes me this doesn't get brought up more. It's a huge factor when comparing like for like.

Basically you're right - but the fact of the matter is that most people get new phones every 2 years, making it a non-issue in real life. Not all manufacturers are the same, either. Sony, for example, updates very fast and quite long, while Samsung rarely updates at all. It's a marketing strategy, however: Samsung is pushing people into buying new phones every year.

Samsung and Apple follow different business strategies:

Apple charges dramatically more for their phones, knowing full well that people won't buy a 1000+$ new iPhone every year. In order to justify their high prices (and margins), they push updates longer than other companies. As a side-effect, they also sell a lot of insurance plans as people intend to keep their iPhones for 2-3 years.

Samsung has lower margins and in order to cash in, they need to sell more phones. They achieve this by limiting the availability of updates to 2 years. They also offer full-glass phones that easily break, so they can either sell more phones or they get a cut from the insurance plans that people buy for Samsung phones because these plans are necessary. They also design the phones in a way that if the front glass breaks, the entire display has to be exchange for 300+$.

I believe, however, that strategies will change this year. Google has already adopted Apple's high-margin, 2-3 year turn-around business model and Samsung is about to follow suit, with the S8's alleged price-range in the 1000-1100$ range (much like the iPhone 7 Plus).

 

[MH01]

Still has fairly big bezels. Nothing to see here.

There is absolutely nothing out there, non apple that would get a "something to see here" response from you ?
[doublepost=1488377529][/doublepost]Not a bad looking phone. Good for the android users

 

[kis]

I'm also consistently getting better call quality over my S7, S7 Edge and HTC 10 and those phones are reported to have lower SAR levels, too. So I'd like to see Apple improve on that aspect as well.

they really don't care about SAR values, as was recently demonstrated with the iPhone 7 and the AirPods. But to be honest, most people don't care, either.

 

[LordQ]

Well at least it will be innovation priced at the "7s" range, not the "Edition / 8 / X" $1,000

 

[MH01]

While the Galaxy phones themselves are nice, the biggest problem with them when you compare directly to iPhone is the lack of support.

Here are a list of Galaxy S phones, their release year, their latest officially supported OS and that OS's release year

S2 (2011) - Jelly Bean (2012)
S3 (2012) - Kit Kat (2013)
S4 (2013) - Lollipop (2014)
S5 (2014) - Marshmallow (2015)

Compare that to iPhone where the iPhone 5 (2012) is running a 2017 OS.

It still amazes me this doesn't get brought up more. It's a huge factor when comparing like for like.

Thats not always a pro. The last update of an IOS on certain iPhones have made them very slow...... Id love to roll back my 4S and my iPad 2

 

[GoodWheaties]

Because they're too dependent on Samsung tech to built their phones. Except from the A chips (which are cheaper to produce) all inner parts are third party, mostly Samsung. Apple should upgrade its SE by now and not only more ram.

Please go look at iFixit's iPhone 7 teardown. I couldn't find a single chip made by Samsung. Everything was Hynix, Toshiba, Qualcomm, Avago, NXP, and various others. Even the battery was a Chinese company. There may be some Samsung parts but definitely not many.

Edit: The RAM is made by Samsung I see.

 

[Dethklok]

Are they getting rid of the hardware menu bar? That's the only thing keeping me from switching from Samsung to Google Pixel.