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If I was Apple or one of the in-the-knows, I swear I would leak just total horsesh!t about the next iPhone and laugh my ass off and watch Samsung copy it.

"Samsung has shown the first pictures of the Galaxy S9 iPhone 9 rival. The Galaxy 9 has a knife and fork built in, along with a flamethrower, parachute and can be used as a hang-glider. It also has a triangular form-factor so you could use it as a Shuriken if needed."
 
While the Galaxy phones themselves are nice, the biggest problem with them when you compare directly to iPhone is the lack of support.

Here are a list of Galaxy S phones, their release year, their latest officially supported OS and that OS's release year

S2 (2011) - Jelly Bean (2012)
S3 (2012) - Kit Kat (2013)
S4 (2013) - Lollipop (2014)
S5 (2014) - Marshmallow (2015)

Compare that to iPhone where the iPhone 5 (2012) is running a 2017 OS.

It still amazes me this doesn't get brought up more. It's a huge factor when comparing like for like.
Its not as a big deal with android because google can update individual apps.
 
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Inferior by a numbers standpoint perhaps. If you really care that much about DPI being super high you will probably not be happy with an iPhone at any point in time. I still just cannot see the point to these stupid high resolution screens they cram into flagship Android handsets. Yes I've used them, no I don't see a single benefit unless VR is your thing and at that point its niche at best.

What are you doing that you need that high DPI of a screen? I for one don't want the battery hit and everything else that comes along with it.
 
that looks great...but realistically my iphone 6 does everything I need it to do and does it very well. Unless they start pushing the software I see no real compelling reason to upgrade. The one thing that would do it is USB-C and a real file system or at least easy access to transfer files onto and off of the phone via a wire
 
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I can recommend Samsung's flagship phones. I have an Edge S7 and its absolutely takes a big dump on anything apple has on the market. If this refines that, then its a Win Win for us the consumers and before you say it.....the play store is just as good as the apple store nowadays.
I have an S7 and an S7 Edge and had a Note 7. I also have an IPhone 7 Plus. I can confidently state that all three phones are competitive with each other. Putting aside the platform differences for a moment, the hardware is also competitive, though the s7/S7 Edge could reasonably be considered the most stylish and advanced (in some respects) by many people. I could and should list the reasons why, but I'm trying to survive on a revised diet without adequate levels of caffeine, so I barely have the will to live, let alone articulate the more complex non-murderous thoughts in my head.

But the IPhone 7/7 Plus still retains some advantages you need to use for awhile to appreciate. When you add the modest but quite relevant hardware advantages to the advantages of the operating system, the iPhone 7/7 plus becomes even more competitive for very many users, despite a somewhat dated look.

So, by no means is one phone so far ahead of the others that it could be said to be pooping on its rival. ;)
 
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that looks great...but realistically my iphone 6 does everything I need it to do and does it very well. Unless they start pushing the software I see no real compelling reason to upgrade. The one thing that would do it is USB-C and a real file system or at least easy access to transfer files onto and off of the phone via a wire
Couldn't agree more, I have zero plans to upgrade iPhone yearly or even every other year now. Apple doesn't support the hardware they put into their devices. IOS is buggy and slow, feels very unfinished and gives you barebones to work with. Time for a complete overhaul.. Don't need new hardware when nothing release pushes the current.
 
Seriously, if next iPhone isn't completely new design and major advancement from iPhone 6/6plus-7/7plus then Android will take gargantuan lead over iOS. Even now iPhones market share is looking more and more like Mac vs. Windows situation and we know what developers think about shrinking sales opportunities. I truly hope Apple will release totally re-designed flag ship iPhone and also at least one dirt cheap model so that iOS can truly challenge Anroid in every possible market. Dirt cheap models are important for the future of iOS.

Yeah, but you realize that the lion's share of app profits still belongs to iOS right? That's why many major developers release iOS versions first. It doesn't matter how many phones run Android if a great majority of those don't install paid apps.
 
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I have an S7 and an S7 Edge and had a Note 7. I also have an IPhone 7 Plus. I can confidently state that all three phones are competitive with each other. Putting aside the platform differences for a moment, the hardware is also competitive, though the s7/S7 Edge could reasonably be considered the most stylish and advanced (in some respects) by many people. I could and should list the reasons why, but I'm trying to survive on a revised diet without adequate levels of caffeine, so I barely have the will to live, let alone articulate the more complex non-murderous thoughts in my head.

But the IPhone 7/7 Plus still retains some advantages you need to use for awhile to appreciate. When you add the modest but quite relevant hardware advantages to the advantages of the operating system, the iPhone 7/7 plus becomes even more competitive for very many users, despite a somewhat dated look.

So, by no means is one phone so far ahead of the others that it could be said to be pooping on its rival. ;)
Platform differences to me is the tipping point; hardware is all well and good and all but it's on the software that makes the difference.
 
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Its not as a big deal with android because google can update individual apps.
But Android versions prior to Nougat will never get split screen (barring the Touchwiz implementation) just like versions prior to Marshmallow will never get Doze. Updating individual apps is not the same.
 
If you think those bezels are big the current iPhone's bezels must make your eyes bleed and cause vomiting.

They sure are big for what was supposed to be a "bezel-less" display.

I dislike the current iPhone design as much as I dislike this one: both boring, some millimeter more or less bezel does not make any difference.
 
But it's so tall !!!

Remember when Apple took the iPhone 4S and made it taller with the iPhone 5 ?

And everyone lost their minds?

Where are the people complaining about this yuuuge tall Samsung phone?

because rumor has it being the same exact physical size as the galaxy s7
 
they really don't care about SAR values, as was recently demonstrated with the iPhone 7 and the AirPods. But to be honest, most people don't care, either.
I know. And maybe we should care, given the headlines that broke yesterday about the startling rise in colorectal cancer diagnoses in people under 50. I have been reading of 20 year olds being diagnosed and dying of this kind of cancer in unprecedented numbers. It could be GMO food causing it, who knows, but if they're going to have to start dropping the recommended screening age from 50 to 20, we have a problem.

Until we know the precise cause for this rise, we need to take a look at everything that is different for people now vs when the rates were lower. I'm one of the people who joined the early statistic despite this cancer not usually striking in my family until after age 70. I had my surgery last year and despite everything being caught at the earliest possible stages, it was no picnic. It was interesting that the most painful of the damage, where it looks like my insides were cooked raw--and I'm still taking medication for, is right where I habitually rested my LTE enabled iPads on my stomach when reading in bed. For hours at a time for a few years.

Without knowing for sure about anything, I err on the side of caution and am taking more of an interest in SAR ratings. It could mean nothing after all. I wish I knew.

I don't know anything about SAR and AirPods. My husband is quite fond of his. I will have to look into it.

Okay that's all I'll say on this subject since I don't want to derail the thread any further.
 
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So after all those leaks and teasers, this is in fact just another phone that isn't bringing anything new in terms of design...

Samsung got rid of all hardware buttons and changed the screen aspect ratio.

how is this not a new design?
 
Okay, fully support you if you want to go all Samsung.:)

I don't care about the profits either, I buy what I want. but profits are important to a company.

And I'm waiting for Apple to announce their next generation iPhones for what they actually are.
Profits are important. But to say the company with the highest profits has the best products is plain false.

The iPhone 8 is going to look similar to the S8

Platform differences to me is the tipping point; hardware is all well and good and all but it's on the software that makes the difference.

And how is Android inferior apart from apps quality?
 
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I fully devote to the iPhone and other Apple devices. That said, give Credit to where it's due, Samsung's Galaxy line has its advantages over the iPhone in terms of hardware and software as well. In some respects, the iPhone is stagnant in terms of hardware design, where as the Galaxy has been fairly dynamic this last year, aside from the Note debacle.

The Galaxy has its pitfalls, but the iPhone is far from leaps and bounds over the Galaxy. Speed and fluidity of the OS is noticeable, but that doesn't change a three-year design with incremental features updates (Speakers, haptic home button, etc). I'm not degrading the iPhone, but those are obvious reasons I stated.
It's a known FACT that iPhones are faster and it's due to the A Chips that Apple makes...
 
Samsung got rid of all hardware buttons and changed the screen aspect ratio.

how is this not a new design?

Captain of the Titanic said the same thing when he ordered the deck chairs to be rearranged.

OK, not comparing the Galaxy S8 to a sinking ship, just that moving buttons around isn't really new. It's not new if Samsung does it. It's not new if Apple does it. It's just rearranged deck chairs. The ship is the same as it was before.
 
While the Galaxy phones themselves are nice, the biggest problem with them when you compare directly to iPhone is the lack of support.

Here are a list of Galaxy S phones, their release year, their latest officially supported OS and that OS's release year

S2 (2011) - Jelly Bean (2012)
S3 (2012) - Kit Kat (2013)
S4 (2013) - Lollipop (2014)
S5 (2014) - Marshmallow (2015)

Compare that to iPhone where the iPhone 5 (2012) is running a 2017 OS.

It still amazes me this doesn't get brought up more. It's a huge factor when comparing like for like.

One minor point. You are using the release date of the phone but the end date of the OS support. While it is impressive that Apple continues to support older hardware, the iPhone 5 will likely only go up to iOS 10 which was a 2016 OS.

Also, up until the last year or so Apple supported the hardware for three years. They support OS revisions for one year past the production stop. With the extended production of the iPhone 4S and the iPad 2 they tacked on an extra year. Same thing for the iPhone 5 which lived on an extra year as the 5C. The choice Apple has is to either continue to support one or two older versions of iOS or just make the newest one compatible with all current production hardware. I doubt it is altruism that makes Apple do OS revisions for multiple years, it is probably just easier to build support into the latest version of iOS.

If anything I think the extended support of older hardware inhibits what iOS can do. It is difficult to do something innovative or transformative when you are hamstrung by having to ensure whatever you do will run on four-year-old hardware.
 
The S8 looks really good, but I prefer a flat screen.

If Apple can get a near bezeless phone with a flat screen and embedded touch ID, I think they'll have a winner.

Well its true, to update maps for example apple has to release an whole new OS update.

Apple can issue bug fixes for individual apps without OS updates. New features for apps are bundled with OS updates. Google can update individual apps, but they can't update the OS itself 3rd party phones, which is much more important.
 
Profits are important. But to say the company with the highest profits has the best products is plain false.

The iPhone 8 is going to look similar to the S8



And how is Android inferior apart from apps quality?
"EASE OF USE" maybe???? Remember Andy Rubin worked for Apple... "worked" as in past tense...
I'm sorry but the power switch on the "side" of the phone makes NO sense whatsoever... grab the phone and you hit the power button he he!
 
Platform differences to me is the tipping point; hardware is all well and good and all but it's on the software that makes the difference.
Right now for me personally, while iOS 10 is still undergoing beta revisions and testing, I am finding them very very close to equal. I'm experiencing a bit of random app crashing, lag, and unpredictable battery draining on both my Samsungs and my IPhone 7 Plus (and IPad mini 4). There are some user interface features I prefer on iOS. It is really close though. iMessage is probably what tips me over toward the Apple side the most. Google so far has made such a hash of messaging.
 
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