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There are stilly plenty of uses for the Note 7 ....

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Maybe they could sell them to ISIS for use as IED's.
 
And that said "car" that flew off could have hit any of their other cars in the huge fleet and cause even more damage. To say that phone sales is no longer their biggest income and that this issue is just a minor bump is ridiculous. Ever heard of the butterfly effect? Given that the faulty batteries came from Samsung SDI their own subsidiary, this will cause harm not just to their phone business but even their parts business. If I'm a businessman looking to obtain parts from Samsung I will now think twice because their QC seems screwed. If they can screw up their own flagship, there's a chance they'll screw up the parts they supply me too.
Samsung is supplying a huge variety of components in large quantities to many companies. If Samsung's QC would really be so terrible there would have been many other problems.

Do you really think that, eg, Apple would stop letting Samsung fab their A-series processor because one battery model in one phone model is having serious issues? Companies are a bit more thorough and don't make big business decisions based on a very isolated problem (isolated in terms of which products are affected).
 
Samsung is supplying a huge variety of components in large quantities to many companies. If Samsung's QC would really be so terrible there would have been many other problems.

Do you really think that, eg, Apple would stop letting Samsung fab their A-series processor because one battery model in one phone model is having serious issues? Companies are a bit more thorough and don't make big business decisions based on a very isolated problem (isolated in terms of which products are affected).
TMSC does the fab for the A series SOC exclusively. Samsung and TMSC shared the production of the A9'in the iPhone 6S. I remember there being talk in the Samsung chips not quite as good as the TMSC chips. Hopefully Apple will use other suppliers of components. I have always thought Samsung components and products are cheaply made.
 
TMSC does the fab for the A series SOC exclusively. Samsung and TMSC shared the production of the A9'in the iPhone 6S. I remember there being talk in the Samsung chips not quite as good as the TMSC chips. Hopefully Apple will use other suppliers of components. I have always thought Samsung components and products are cheaply made.
what you thought has no scientific value.
samsung makes some of the best memory chips,and absolutely the best screens.Apple doesn't necessarily use the best quality components,they try to balance price and quality as much as they can.so they used TMSC and Samsung chips in 6s for the exact same reason.they use LG screens in most iMacs and MacBooks because they are decent and cheaper than Samsung not because they are better,they are not.
 
Wow, you are right. I think... I don't recall -gate before that. Why the heck was -gate appended in the first place?

In terms of the tech world I mean. Obviously its from watergate, but now everyone harks back to it due to the minor iPhone debacles.
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IMO, Samsung does make the best hardware amongst all the smartphone makers. They suck in software quality and upgrades but there is no beating them in hardware....until the Note 7 of course. But the S6, S7, the edge variants and even the Note 5 are beautiful, compact devices

Nah I don't agree - they made horrible tacky plastic phones and tablets until the S6 when they tried to go premium but it's still not a patch on HTC's premium devices. They're also not compact at all, they're friggin huge - they don't have the ability to fit that power (which is still slower than even the iPhone 6s, never mind the 7) into a smaller device.
 
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Samsung has halted production of its beleaguered Galaxy Note 7 smartphone after several replacement handsets reportedly caught fire and ended up with at least one person in a hospital.

On Monday, an official at a supplier for Samsung informed Korean Yonhap news agency of the decision, which is said to have been made in coordination with consumer safety regulators from South Korea, the United States, and China.

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The news is another hammer blow to Samsung's mobile division and its 2016 flagship device, as the company reels from a second round of exploding phone incidents indicating that the replacement handset program at the center of its global recall efforts has failed.

The decision came after all mobile carriers in the U.S. said they would stop issuing Note 7 devices following at least five reports of replacement handsets catching fire over the last five days.

On Wednesday, a flight from Louisville to Baltimore was evacuated while still at the gate because of a smoking Note 7. Saturday saw a Minnesota case involving a 13-year-old girl who said she felt a "weird, burning sensation" while holding her phone and suffered a minor burn to her thumb. "It felt like pins and needles except a lot more intense," she said.

Later the same day, a Kentucky man reported "vomiting black" after his Note 7 caught fire while he was asleep in bed, filling his room with smoke. "It wasn't plugged in. It wasn't anything, it was just sitting there," said the man, who later took himself to ER and was diagnosed with acute bronchitis.

Then on Sunday, another Note 7 bedside incident took place in Virginia. The phone "just burst into flames while on the night stand," said its owner. "I woke up in complete panic." By midday another device had caught fire on a table where a Texas family sat eating lunch together.

All the handsets in the incidents were replacements issued by Samsung, which the company had previously claimed were using batteries that are "not vulnerable to overheating and catching fire." Samsung has yet to explain what's going on with the replacement devices.

Rumors have suggested Samsung's Note 7 problems began after the company rushed the device into production after realizing the iPhone 7 would not feature major design changes, seeing it as an opportunity to one up Apple. Suppliers were pushed to meet tighter deadlines for an earlier launch, leading to critical oversights.

The supplier official who revealed the manufacturing halt this morning described the production as "temporarily suspended", however it is difficult to imagine in what circumstances Samsung would resume production of the Galaxy Note 7, which many observers will now consider a toxic brand.

Early speculation that iPhone 7 could experience an uptick in sales because of Samsung's woes seem increasingly likely. Samsung accounted for 27.8 percent of all smartphones shipped in Q1 2016, almost double Apple's 14.4 percent share, but a big part of Samsung's jump ahead was the early release of the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge, while the much-anticipated Note 7 was Samsung's attempt to cater for the increasing popularity of larger-screen devices.

Update 1: Similar incidents of exploding replacement Note 7 phones have also been reported in Taiwan and South Korea.

Update 2: Samsung has said it is "temporarily adjusting the Galaxy Note 7 production schedule in order to take further steps to ensure quality and safety matters". The company said it hoped to provide an update within a month.

Article Link: Samsung Halts Production of Note 7 After Replacement Phones Explode [Updated]
 
Presumably Samsung's studied mediocrity is the very reason Apple contracts with Samsung every year for key supplies for its own premium hardware. Because that would be the logical thing to do.

Samsung didn't become the biggest player in the Android market for nothing.

But the masses love mediocrity - almost everything that is the most popular, is average - that's quite often how it becomes popular. Samsung got there in the UK but offering the first iPhone clone that was cheaper for the mobile stores to sell - they just told customers "You can't afford the iPhone but you can get this phone and it does all the same things" - thats the exact language they used because the mobile phone stores over here made much more commision on Samsung devices than Apple.
 
Samsung isn't a single car. It's a huge fleet of cars, one flying off the road won't make too much of a difference.
It would if all of the future cars in the fleet were called into question due to the one car having such issues and being so unreliable. Which is exactly what could happen with brand loyalty and future offerings from Samsung, in every single category they participate in.
 
The S7 Edge does not blow everything Apple ever created out of the water.
Yes it does. It is an excellent phone, ready any review, anywhere. The iPhone 7 and 7 Plus are the only devices that are even remotely close.

Ironically it also has a higher capacity battery than the Note 7 without any of the same issues.
 
what you thought has no scientific value.
samsung makes some of the best memory chips,and absolutely the best screens.Apple doesn't necessarily use the best quality components,they try to balance price and quality as much as they can.so they used TMSC and Samsung chips in 6s for the exact same reason.they use LG screens in most iMacs and MacBooks because they are decent and cheaper than Samsung not because they are better,they are not.
TMSC is already using the fan out process for the A
what you thought has no scientific value.
samsung makes some of the best memory chips,and absolutely the best screens.Apple doesn't necessarily use the best quality components,they try to balance price and quality as much as they can.so they used TMSC and Samsung chips in 6s for the exact same reason.they use LG screens in most iMacs and MacBooks because they are decent and cheaper than Samsung not because they are better,they are not.
TMSC is a better foundry than Samsung. TMSC is already usin the fan out process in the current A10 series, Samsung is working on it for their new chips. At the moment Samsung could not do the A10 SOC. Yes, they make good memory and screens. LG does also, Foxconn will be making OLED screens also and they will be as good as Samsungs with Apples help. Lie I said Apple needs to get away from Samsung.
 
And as stupid as it sounds, I know people with the note 7 who don't want to pick another phone or get it replaced as they like it as it is... Screw that

I have no problem with someone keeping the phone if they really like it. What do I care if it catches fire while they sleep and burns their house down? However if they choose to bring it out in public, like on an airplane, and risks the lives of others, then I do care.

Airlines, rightly so, are not allowing people to turn on Note 7's on board a flight. I think it would be better if they were banned altogether. If I were flying and I saw someone using one of those on a flight, it would be no different to me if I saw someone who is looks like he/she is fixing to carry out a terroristic act, and would have no qualms about reporting it.
 
I have always thought Samsung components and products are cheaply made.
That is a dangerous assumption based essentially on a small sample of anecdotal evidence. You have no real data to backup that assertion.
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It would if all of the future cars in the fleet were called into question due to the one car having such issues and being so unreliable. Which is exactly what could happen with brand loyalty and future offerings from Samsung, in every single category they participate in.
I give up. If people feel able to judge the quality of thousands of component types made by a multitude of subsidiaries based on the behaviour of a single battery model, I cannot stop them. Feel free to live in your simplistic fantasy world where one describe a complex organism by observing a tiny element of it.
 
Yeah the Note 7 is a wash.. Even a new version will only get a fraction of the sales of the original. The trust in that version will never be whole again.
 
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That is a dangerous assumption based essentially on a small sample of anecdotal evidence. You have no real data to backup that assertion.
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I give up. If people feel able to judge the quality of thousands of component types made by a multitude of subsidiaries based on the behaviour of a single battery model, I cannot stop them. Feel free to live in your simplistic fantasy world where one describe a complex organism by observing a tiny element of it.
It's not just the one device people are calling into question. It's the fact that the so called safe replacement devices weren't actually safe at all and that Samsung was either too incompetent or unwilling to rectify what was necessary in order to deliver safe devices to the masses. If people can't trust them to rectify mistakes like these and want to gamble with the safety of the people then you can guarantee we will fully expect Samsung to cut corners in the future. The initial mistake was just that, a mistake, maybe an oversight. But the second go around debacle is definitely disrespectful, foolish, careless, and probably a microcosm of how the company runs as a whole. You call it a simplistic world where we can judge an organism by a single element and you would be correct if Samsung would have done what was necessary the first time in fixing the devices or starting anew. Since they didn't, it became more than just a single element. It almost became monumental. When companies recall products due to defect, they fix the problem and often release the product again and replace the affected units. Apparently Samsung didn't get that memo and that is worrisome to say the least.

I guess ignorance is bliss for you.
 
It's not just the one device people are calling into question. It's the fact that the so called safe replacement devices weren't actually safe at all and that Samsung was either too incompetent or unwilling to rectify what was necessary in order to deliver safe devices to the masses. If people can't trust them to rectify mistakes like these and want to gamble with the safety of the people then you can guarantee we will fully expect Samsung to cut corners in the future. The initial mistake was just that, a mistake, maybe an oversight. But the second go around debacle is definitely disrespectful, foolish, careless, and probably a microcosm of how the company runs as a whole. You call it a simplistic world where we can judge an organism by a single element and you would be correct if Samsung would have done what was necessary the first time in fixing the devices or starting anew. Since they didn't, it became more than just a single element. It almost became monumental. When companies recall products due to defect, they fix the problem and often release the product again and replace the affected units. Apparently Samsung didn't get that memo and that is worrisome to say the least.

I guess ignorance is bliss for you.

Make that two mistakes (which on a technical level are very linked). It's still far too little data to draw any statistically meaningful conclusions for the whole company, a company with half a million of employees. If it makes you happy that you can predict the quality of all of Samsung's products from these two data points. If it makes you feel so smart and insightful, all the better for you. Strangely however that Samsung has operated for at least a decade in the (Western) public limelight and its poor QC only now struck in a such a forceful manner.

If you call not-jumping-to-conclusions-when-there-is-far-too-little-data-to-do-so ignorance, then I am indeed happy that have such 'ignorance' instead of phoney 'knowledge'. Adios.
 
Yeah the Note 7 is a wash.. Even a new version will only get a fraction of the sales of the original. The trust in that version will never be whole again.

And in my opinion, the worst possible Cell Phone launch ever and even worse remedy to fix the issue.
 
Samsung in deep ****

It's really bad, but Samsung will recover, and by this time next year, it will just be an unpleasant memory. I hope Apple learned something from Samsung's misfortune not to put unreasonable pressure on suppliers for the iPhone 8 or any other high volume product. This could easily happen to them if they expect more than their suppliers can reasonably deliver causing those suppliers to cut corners.
 
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