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The note ultra isn’t for your average user. It’s for real power users who want everything in a phone which gives them productivity. No phone can compete with the note hardware so people buying this are wanting everything. People who buy the iphone 12 won’t be after all that. They just will want a cheap iphone.

In addition, people now a days are pretty settled in their phone of choice. My sister is a power user and sticks to her Samsung phones, which she assures me nothing competes with. She did dabble in iOS

me, same story but flipped - I have owned multiple androids including recent flagships, but for me iOS is what I need. I’m not about to switch to Android and move 10+ years worth of app purchases over either, I enjoy my iPhone because it gives me dependability and working in healthcare I need my phone for efficient communication, I need everything to work, and if there’s an issue I need it solved ASAP at my local Apple store. Once the battery life finally caught up with the XR and 11 series, it’s been my ideal phone.

This thread will also see its mirror on a Samsung fan site, with majority of people in support of these products, some Apple haters, and some defending apple amidst the excitement of the new products

Those of you who are poking fun at the Fold, smart phones are going in that direction At the very least some of the market will go in that direction eventually, and Apple is also working on folding devices as well.
 
In addition, people now a days are pretty settled in their phone of choice. My sister is a power user and sticks to her Samsung phones, which she assures me nothing competes with. She did dabble in iOS

me, same story but flipped - I have owned multiple androids including recent flagships, but for me iOS is what I need. I’m not about to switch to Android and move 10+ years worth of app purchases over either, I enjoy my iPhone because it gives me dependability and working in healthcare I need my phone for efficient communication, I need everything to work, and if there’s an issue I need it solved ASAP at my local Apple store. Once the battery life finally caught up with the XR and 11 series, it’s been my ideal phone.

This thread will also see its mirror on a Samsung fan site, with majority of people in support of these products, some Apple haters, and some defending apple amidst the excitement of the new products

Those of you who are poking fun at the Fold, smart phones are going in that direction At the very least some of the market will go in that direction eventually, and Apple is also working on folding devices as well.

Well said, choice is wonderful. Wish more people would realise this. Depends what you need out of a phone at the end of the day. Both have strengths and weaknesses
 
The issue is , with rounded apple watch..people, who indeed has real mechanical watches will always compare and will never buy this...the look of an rounded digital watch it will always look cheap compared to the mechanical...thats why Apple is an almost 2 tril $ company, because they talk with the right people...until apple watch, they talked with the CEO of companies like Rolex, Audemar Piguet etc....so...smart people, talk with those who did watches for decades with centuries of history....others...just pretend and try to copy, like samsung in this case, the big watches manufactures
Jony Ive did say Apple Watch isn’t competing with expensive mechanical watches. I’m sure one reason the Apple Watch isn’t round is so no one can make those comparisons (which Apple Watch would always come out on the losing end).

Here’s a Huawei watch ad:
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And what one looks like in person:
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And yet people keep repeating the same stupid rumours 5G iPhone is going to be the same price.
 
I think you are a little behind the times and need to do a bit more research to realize how far off you are with these comments

Save your energy, there are some who are stuck in the past, and are so blindly locked in, there'll never be anything better than having the Apple Logo on a product. It is what it is.
 
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Then they should have just put it in the left side where there is no rear camera. Please tell me there's another sensible reason for this.

Edit: Sorry I missed the last part of your comment but I still stand by what I said.

The closer the camera is to the center, the more natural your face will look during a video conference. At least that's what I think.
 
It also allows for customization via the screen, case and watch band options. Since getting my first, (series 0), I’ve only worn Apple watches.
Yeah, and it shows. Gears also allow you to customize them via the screen, heck, you can even download new watch faces from Galaxy Store via the screen! And they use universal 20 mm spring bars, so you can use more bands than you can imagine.
 
Jony Ive did say Apple Watch isn’t competing with expensive mechanical watches. I’m sure one reason the Apple Watch isn’t round is so no one can make those comparisons (which Apple Watch would always come out on the losing end).

Don't believe anything he says. Remember Apple Watch Edition made of 18-karat gold and how they tried to advertize it? Remember these?
 
As someone who doesn’t live in USA and will be getting garbage Exynos CPU once again - this is a hard pass
 
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Wait, is it just me or does it seem like Samsung releases 10 phones a year?
Samsung has 2 flagship release cycles per year, Spring (Galaxy S) and Fall (Galaxy Note). They release many more mid-range and lower-end phones in between.
 
Another awful comparison, 60hz on phones in 2020 is far worse than 60hz screens in 2017 on tablets when high refresh rates was very new until 2018-2019. no flagship should have 60hz in 2020 really not over 1k which the 12 pros will be with the highest being 1500 most likely

Oh so 120hz on flagship phones in 2020 isn't very new?! 🤣

And oh no! My phone has been terrible because of its 60hz screen! Oh the outrage! 🤣
 
Those headphones look dreadful! Samsung finally has bested Apple at something, terrible headphone design. Making it all gaudy doesn’t make it an instant icon either Samsung.

Ok ... got to watch this keynote in full and finally see just how these GalaxyBuds Live fit in the ear. I gotta eat my boot on this one ... the flatter flush height with your ear seems to be a GOOD design choice after all.

I'm curious just how great the sound quality is vs the AirPods Pro for voice calls in noisy outdoor environments like at a VERY busy 3 car lane intersection in rush hour or a busy construction/demolition site right beside the sidewalk.

Music and video sound (streaming or local stored content) vs the AirPods Pro as well.

More importantly is how these fair against one another over the next 6-12 months with FW updates between the two. Lastly is Samsung + AKG planning on spacial sound like what the AirPods Pro is planning to get from Apple's December FW update???!!

* one KEY thing that was NOT shown off is how the controls work.

PS: Yoonie Park looks really cute ~ hot with class/style yet able to kick-it on the block vibe. My kinda gal. And no, in now way does her cuteness affect my rethinking of the Buds Live.

I still tend to wonder, beyond the quip about the stem sticking out from their competition (APP) and the 'other brand' for call quality comparison, Not much was stated about how to use the Buds which is a VERY big loss. Especially from 1 of the only 2 people that had a more natural vocal flow of their presentation without so many long pauses.

Others during the presentation seemed to pause VERY unnaturally like everyone in the world is streaming over AOL-Dialup or GPRS wireless network connection of the late 90's and worried several packets would drop!


EDIT: Yoonie Park (correction made to name. She’s not Head of Galaxy S flagship products )
 

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its not about the size

it’s the technology. Oled =/= LCD

even Samsung has only been able to do 120hz at 1080p, and they use their best displays every year on the high end notes. Apple gets their displays from Samsung, and they have their design. If they can’t solve their energy requirements, they will disable it even if the display itself could do it

they have their spec. Apple also isn’t the type of company to compromise, they’ll want 120hz at their full resolution
Ah, thank you.
 
Who said the Note doesn't make sense? I was exclusively talking about the Fold.

Why is it bad? Look at Samsung's smartwatches. Samsung rushed to market with the Galaxy Gear to try to beat Apple by being "first". They tried a couple of standard touchscreens, a curved screen, and finally a circular screen with a rotating dial (which Samsung basically took ideas from Moto 360 and Apple Watch). They have no clue what makes a great product until some other company spends the time to design one. The early smartwatches were quickly abandoned (first Galaxy Gear had less than a years worth of updates) in favor of this circular watch form. How is that good for consumers? How is that good for developers that spent the time to make software for the early watches?

Galaxy Fold is just another case of rushing to market with a product that doesn't really make the overall UX of a phone better. Samsung starts with the tech foundation then adapts the UX while Apple starts with the UX foundation then adapts the tech. These two different approaches yield completely different products and so far the latter approach has been the one that makes the most sense to me.


Ya Samsung is suppppper struggling. Their business model must the reason. /s :rolleyes:
 
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and Apple takes year to be “innovative”

Hmm. Yeah Samsung basically leap-frogged Apple Watch from complete underdog unknown to leading industry with 1. Blood Pressure, Blood Oxygen Level while catching up with 2. Design colours and Titanium, size of watch as well as Premium model range with Thom.

They also partnered with Thom before yet now increased with Galaxy Z Fold 2, Note Ultra Galaxy Buds Live and the Watch.

I now really wish Apple will push colours for AirPods Pro as well as premium colour/design for iPhone, iPad and AirPods Pro along with the Watch and not just with the Watch alone.
 
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