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Samsung May Announce Galaxy Note 5 in August to Beat iPhone Launch
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Android or Touchwiz,
they're two, COMPLETELY different things. Although, Samsung would have you believe otherwise
everytime someone posts this here, I laugh at their sheer ignorance.
Now, if you have to ask why it's ignorant, that too, just exemplifies the ignorance of posting it
how dare you judge someone elses requirements?
if Someone has a requriement that they require their car to have a 100gallon tank cause they drive cross big zones of no gas stations regularly, they are entirely 100% entitled to that requirement
how do you know that the user you are responding to doesn't frequently need to have a lot open on their phone? maybe they're running their business off it and constantly running into memory limitations?
the simple fact that Apple has refused to budge on the memory availability for almost exclusively the purpose of saving themselves a few margins of profit should be a big red flag that they're not actually putting your, as the consumer best interest in mind but their own profits.
According to Apple, Samsung's size choices were not logical at all.
Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Apple actively dissed Samsung's size choices. For example:
- "There are clear limits of how close you can physically place elements on a touch screen before users cannot reliably tap, flick or pinch them. This is one of the key reasons we think the 10-inch screen size is the minimum size required to create great tablet apps." - Jobs dissing smaller tablets, Apple quarterly earnings call, 2010
- "We've put a lot of thinking into screen size and we think we've picked the right one." - Cook on 4" iPhone, dissing larger displays and phablets, 2013
If smaller tablets and larger phones were the next logical step, Apple sure didn't indicate that they knew it.
In fact, we now know from trial evidence, that Apple made the iPad mini... despite Jobs' declaration above... in great part because Apple Senior VP Eddie Cue had a good experience on a 7" Samsung tablet:
The end of Samsung as a phone manufacturer is getting closer and closer. I can't wait to see that day.
The only winner when it comes to Android is Google.
Edit: Even the Android fans know the end is coming. I've seen less of them on this site. This thread would have been more than 20 pages long a couple of years ago.
you've mixed things
the end of "ANDROID" is not near.
possibly end of Samsung
Ive ran anything from Pure stock android on nexus devices, to lightly skinned devices and now, the S6.
there's such a wide variety of performance and feeling behidn them
Pure Android is actually quite nice experience to use. Many people I know who were iOS before, have switched post iOS 8. (Yes yes, anecodotal)
the proble isn't android. It's the vendor. And the vendors will ruin it. As I said I have the S6 and I admit, I hate it due to the software. The hardware is absolutely top notch and fantastic. not a single MM out of place.
but the software, Oh lordy lord. Touchwiz is terrible. I can see why people who have tried samsung devices go back to iPhones and repeat the "ANDROID SUCKS!", they think the experience of Touchwiz is the same as Android.
it is not.
Samsung deserves the hate they get for software. Issues I've ran into so far in the S6
- Memory usage: By default on first boot, 1.7GB of 3GB of ram in use. This is unacceptible. Even Windows and OSx on the desktop is better at its memory footprint.
- Memory Management: Apps wont stay up and running. Touchwiz kills them arbitrarily, watching netflix for exmample via chromecast, 20 minutes in, the remote disconnects. sure, netflix is still playing on the chromecast, but, you have to reconnect it to remote.
- lag, apps take longer to load.
- frame drops in the touchwiz UI.
- Default apps that they install, while many can be disabled, they have a couple that they will not let you change or disable, such as their terrible music player, which always defaults to default on reboot.
which, due to bad memory managemnet, you have to do daily. if i don't, my homescreen take 5-10 seconds to redraw.
none of these experiences I've had on any other android platform, nor stock android. its exclusively Touchwiz.
I'm not sure you understand what an opinion and a fact are
Conversely, I know plenty of people with Android phones and tablets and love them and they are reliable. I also know a bunch of people with iPads and iPhones who are constantly in need of help from Apple care. What's your point?
No way anyone had a problem with an iPhone!
How have you been? Did you ever get my message?
you mean, people have opinions and are free to change back and forth, and often do, meaning theress really no objective fact / truth that one is definitely a "best".
also hey dude. you've been quiet a while, was wondering where all the sane people went
My point? I already stated my point. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
The repetition is amusing. Is anyone around here NOT using copy and paste?
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That is exactly what I said in my post. Are you mixing things yourself?
No, it is not be the end of Android -- it will live on in millions of cheap devises like those made by Xiaomi.
Go ask that bunch of people, I bet they got their problems resolved by Apple. Good luck with repairs or getting technical help for an Android phone or tablet. Android owners better hope and pray their devises are indeed reliable.
Samsung is getting truly desperate. They realistically only had a brief Q2 window to capitalize on the S6 sales but their Q2 2015 profits dropped YoY yet again. By Q3 the masses will be waiting with their wallets for the iPhone 6S...An August launch for the Note 5 would be still preferable than being drowned by 6S release limelight, but it doesn't really matter anyway in the grand scheme of things, Samsung will truly be f***ed after 6S.
Some of these comments in this thread are really laughable.
Samsung S6 and S6 edge were a success where Samsung were stupid were not making enough edge devices.
If they did sales would would of been great. As the year goes on they should get better and better.
IPhone will always sell alot more because it's the iPhone. Apple has a cult following that upgrades every year even though the iPhone S will be a pointless upgrade like it is every time where all they upgrade is the processer and camera and very little else
Samsung are moving in the right direction with their products. Now they have a very premium build with amazing features for the everyday user and you can use it as you want.
There is so much missing from an iPhone which is why it's hard for me to go back.
Many here love iphone and that's great but the amount of immature comments about Samsung here is a shame. Samsung are making great devices now that look even better than the iPhone. When to me the look of the iPhone was their main advantage apple had.
I'm sure apple will sell millions of the s line even though it won't be worth it. So really sales aren't a true reflection sometimes on how great a product is.
I thought long and hard about getting iphone 6 plus but thought what advantages does it even have over note 4? I was struggling to find many apart from build quality.
If I was to buy an iPhone it would be the plus but the iPhone simply hasnt done enough for my liking. No widgets, no key features, no gestures...of course this doesn't matter as iphone will sell alot but that's due to the rep it has
I will look at iPhone plus again this year but not expecting any different to this year's but will see
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Not hard actually
You take them to your carrier who fixes them or a shop where you buy them from
Apple care is great but I've had no issues with android phones or devices
Couldn't agree more, I think the note 5 could be the last of the note line for Samsung. The note 4 was a failure selling less than 4.5 million units world wide.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/02/04...0000-units-of-the-galaxy-note-edge-worldwide/
And now the s6 is also tanking and 7 consecutive quaterly declines in profit, it's not going to be a good year for Samsung, that's for sure.
I wonder who will throw in the towel first htc or Sony?
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Cmon
You do realise the reason why sales aren't what They need to be is because Samsung completely misread the market for high demand of edge devices.
Samsung has so much comp for those who love android
What comp does apple have? Zero because they are the ones who sale ios devices.
So sales figures aren't a good indication of quality.
What Samsung brought out is the best they have brought out. Many reviewers have said it's the best phone on the market right now.
Samsung aren't going anywhere...it's foolish to suggest they will.
Samsung phones aren't selling, reasons don't matter.
They have been loosing profits on mobile for the last seven consecutive quarters.
Complete nonsense.
Do you even understand how competition works?
Samsung and Apple are both competing in "smartphones", That means if a customer, say john six pack, buys an iPhone, Samsung loses out on a sale. If that happens frequently, well just look at : Nokia, Motorola, blackberry, and htc
Products don't sell for one of two reasons poor quality or non-competitive pricing.
Samsung is guilty of both and their financials are reflecting this.
Well sport, their best wasn't good enough.
It turns out consumers don't care what Samsung paid reviewers to write about.
It's foolish of you to say that, I certainly didn't. Samsung might not go anywhere, what I said was that the note 5 might be the end of the note range for Samsung.
Just Remember, Nokia is still here, but they no longer manufacture smartphones and SALES had everything to do with it.
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Is sad that you and others think this is accurate.
This should be on Page 2 (BLog) of Macrumors. I don't care much about Samsung's launching date plans.
Nokia? You do KNOW that they're returning to the phone market? As for the Note 5, I don't think it's the end of Samsung. That company will not stop at that point and will continue in the smartphone market. I've seen the Note model months ago and was impressed with what they managed to pull off with.
HTC is still around and they're ahead of Apple in the VR market with the Vive. I've seen some of their phones and they're pretty good.
Spec matters, especially with RAM and expandable memory. The iCloud, to me, is nothing but a BS excuse by Apple to avoid using the SD card route. Apple needs to jack up the RAM on their phones or find themselves catching up again. iPhone may be a good product but it is no longer the 'gold standard'.