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People also bitched about the removal of a CD drive on MacBooks, not supporting flash on iPhone, not including flash in OS X, et cetera, et cetera. People will get over it.

Removal of the DVD drive was an inconvenience for many. However, at that time it was entirely feasible to get your music and movies online for no extra cost. Or by alternative methods. And almost everyone had a collection of external drives that replaced the storage a burner provided. Again, no extra cost realized for most.

The issue with the absence of a headphone jack is that many (a majority?) of people don't have wireless headphones and other equipment. And where they do they often have better wired gear.

Sure, the transition is inevitable. Even positive. But the interim drawbacks for are greater than these analogies give credit.
 
Yeah, do like me and buy these: http://www.beoplay.com/products/beoplayh7
I can really recommend those for peoples that REALLY cares for sound quality ;).
I use Beyerdynamic 1770. They are 600.00 with no DAC and no amp and they work with every audio device except for this rumored iPhone and I suspect that they have a flatter response than these headphones you posted and there is no battery to be replaced. I also have a 2500.00 DAC/AMP For when I am at home.
 
Will Apple put a data stream out the Lightning port at 44/16 by 2 or will it be compressed so it sounds as bad as Bluetooth?
 
Will Apple put a data stream out the Lightning port at 44/16 by 2 or will it be compressed so it sounds as bad as Bluetooth?
LOL no they will tell you that your 128 bit MP3s now sound magically better since you use a connector with different pin outs for your music.
 
How is an analog audio jack relevant in the digital age? We are in the 21st century. Arguing for 50 year old technology to remain is like arguing for the hose drawn carriage to stay over the motor car. Seriously, how can man progress when people like you just want to regress and throw barbs at those who want to push the limits and move us out of the past? If you don't like it, then stick with your outdated technology while the rest of the world chooses to move forward. "Either lead, follow or get out of the way"!

So stick with iMacs and MacBook Pro's to have the latest and greatest.
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Samsung is so pathetic they even make fun of rumors.

Want to know the difference between Apple and Samsung?

- If Samsung removed the headphone jack their users would be stuck using whatever headphones came with their phone, because nobody will make compatible headphones. Just like Samsung STILL can't convince developers to code for their devices instead of just for Android.
- If Apple removes the headphone jack, an entire industry will spring up to support it and you'll see numerous headphones from a wide range of manufacturers. In fact, we've ALREADY got Lightning headphones even before the iPhone 7 comes out.

This is the kind of pull Apple has (and Samsung wished they had).

Like the entire industry that sprung up for FireWire? And Thunderbolt?
 
I don't think you or most people understand the reasons behind moving away from the 50 year old technology of the 3.5mm analog headphone jack. All music files played on any handheld device today are digital. The audio jack requires an analog output, so every device has to have a digital to analog converter chip to convert the file on the fly. It makes sense to just keep the flow of digital to digital. And the biggest port now on any device is the audio jack, so it limits the size to which a device can be manufactured. So why should we stick with 50 year old technology and limit the size of our devices, just for nostalgia? Heck, let's just put the 8mm headphone jack on there too. When you have a look at old pc laptops of the 90's and see the massive serial ports on the back, you cringe. The same will go for the headphone jack.
Please stop already. You will still need a DAC for any sound, notifications or anything else not played through earpods. Also, the iPod touch is 6.1 mm thick, which is 1 mm less than the iPhone. The limiting factor here is not the jack, but what they try to cram inside, even using bezel or camera bumps when competitors do no such things.
 
And just to add. For those who says that yeah you can just use Bluetooth on an iPhone as a replacement over 3.5mm minijack. Well, i'm sorry to tell you this, but Bluetooth on an iPhone is NOT a replacement for anything as long as the iPhone can't support the 'aptX' codec like most other phones supports via Bluetooth today.

Yeah, you have the AAC codec on the iPhone, but according to many, the sound quality on the AAC codec are worser than the aptX codec. So before you guys starts to think about that, Apple should at least get the aptX codec in their phones before Bluetooth can be considered a replacement for wired sound.

iPhones up to today have never supported aptX, so i doubt that the next iPhone will get that, i'm afraid.
 
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Remember when Samsung also mocked Apple in a commercial when the headphone jack was switched to the bottom of the phone? :rolleyes:

They won't be laughing when they do the same thing in few years removing the headphone jack off the Galaxy.
I'm sure next years Samsung phones won't have headphone jacks!
 
Anyone remember when Samsung mocked Apple for moving the headphone jack to the bottom?
What they really mocked Apple for was the way they often make a huge deal out of completely trivial things (and many Apple fanboys lapping it up as if it was the second coming).

What this (not very funny) joke tells me is that they have no plans to abandon the 3.5mm jack in the near future. I really hope Apple reconsiders as well for future models (or at least switches to standard USB-C), since choosing between iOS without an industry standard headphone jack and Android with one would be like choosing between mumps and measles.
 
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I don't think you or most people understand the reasons behind moving away from the 50 year old technology of the 3.5mm analog headphone jack. All music files played on any handheld device today are digital. The audio jack requires an analog output, so every device has to have a digital to analog converter chip to convert the file on the fly. It makes sense to just keep the flow of digital to digital. And the biggest port now on any device is the audio jack, so it limits the size to which a device can be manufactured. So why should we stick with 50 year old technology and limit the size of our devices, just for nostalgia? Heck, let's just put the 8mm headphone jack on there too. When you have a look at old pc laptops of the 90's and see the massive serial ports on the back, you cringe. The same will go for the headphone jack.
I agree with most of your points, but two things: one, until we switch over to digital ears or a direct brain connection, the music has to go analog at some point along the path. It's not a given that doing it outside the phone is necessarily a win. And two, a number of journalists have pointed out that the iPod touch has a 3.5mm jack and is significantly thinner than the iPhone; the jack is not yet limiting the thinness of the iPhone.

One of the things I'm looking forward to, that hasn't been mentioned, is a better electrical interface in the switch to Lightning - Apple did a bunch of smart things in the mechanical design of the connector, while, on the other hand, I've got a very nice wired headset that occasionally drops my connection (not good on a phone call) when the 3.5mm jack gets bumped - the Lightning connector provides a much more solid, and resilient, connection.
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Funny how Samsung has been able to make water resistant phones with a headphone jack. Next excuse, Apple?
You want Apple to defend their rumored position on an unannounced product?
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Imagine how many of the people commenting like to think of themselves as environmentalists.... That is until their Bluetooth headphones batteries are no longer usable... Then they head to the landfill.
If you throw away batteries you're a bad person and you should feel bad. There are recycling programs for that.
 
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All digital audio is converted to analog before it reaches your ears.
I agree with most of your points, but two things: one, until we switch over to digital ears or a direct brain connection, the music has to go analog at some point along the path. It's not a given that doing it outside the phone is necessarily a win. And two, a number of journalists have pointed out that the iPod touch has a 3.5mm jack and is significantly thinner than the iPhone; the jack is not yet limiting the thinness of the iPhone.

One of the things I'm looking forward to, that hasn't been mentioned, is a better electrical interface in the switch to Lightning - Apple did a bunch of smart things in the mechanical design of the connector, while, on the other hand, I've got a very nice wired headset that occasionally drops my connection (not good on a phone call) when the 3.5mm jack gets bumped - the Lightning connector provides a much more solid, and resilient, connection.
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You want Apple to defend their rumored position on an unannounced product?
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If you throw away batteries you're a bad person and you should feel bad. There are recycling programs for that.
people will be throwing away entire headphones.
 
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Really looking forward to seeing the iPhone 7 Pro, with its own special (smaller?) smart keyboard and pencil. Definitely interested in a "Note" type device running iOS :)

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