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I have been following Apple since the early 2000's and i know them very well. Basicly, Apple does everything to squeeze some more profits out of everybody. So if Apple sees that they can gain more profits by removing the 3.5mm minijack, i can bet you a house that they will do that in no time, just for the profits.

For Apple, the profits comes before what the users want's.
 
I don't think you or most people understand the reasons behind moving away from the 50 year old technology of the 3.5mm analog headphone jack. All music files played on any handheld device today are digital. The audio jack requires an analog output, so every device has to have a digital to analog converter chip to convert the file on the fly. It makes sense to just keep the flow of digital to digital. And the biggest port now on any device is the audio jack, so it limits the size to which a device can be manufactured. So why should we stick with 50 year old technology and limit the size of our devices, just for nostalgia? Heck, let's just put the 8mm headphone jack on there too. When you have a look at old pc laptops of the 90's and see the massive serial ports on the back, you cringe. The same will go for the headphone jack.

Sigh, your headphone speakers are still analog, so all this achieves is moving the DAC from the phone to the headphones. Your "50 year old technology" is still present. And your "limit the size of our devices" just moves that bit of size from the device to the headphones (or dongle).
 
It's a sad reality that people are actually going to buy this Digital Audio marketing spiel. Sound is analogue. Pure and simple. All this does is negate the need for an internal DAC (required anyway for internal speakers). We already have the option for external DAC's via lightning. This change is now going to force us to require one, or force us to buy a cheap and crappy DAC extension lead. It's just so wrong on so many levels. And do, I don't want to charge yet another device, namely inferior BT headphones.
 
You have to love how lukewarm the response was to a lame joke. I think it won't be long until holding on to the old school audio jack will seem like a floppy disk drive to the PC some years back.
[doublepost=1470190016][/doublepost]You have to love how lukewarm the response was to a lame joke. I think it won't be long until holding on to the old school audio jack will seem like a floppy disk drive to the PC some years back.
 
I have been following Apple since the early 2000's and i know them very well. Basicly, Apple does everything to squeeze some more profits out of everybody. So if Apple sees that they can gain more profits by removing the 3.5mm minijack, i can bet you a house that they will do that in no time, just for the profits.

For Apple, the profits comes before what the users want's.
Erroneous apostrophes asside, you are correct. This is nothing more than Apple trying to squeeze out a little more margin on the phone and require users to buy additional accessories. They need to make some money make on their Beats acquisition after-all...
 
If this is the road to making the iPhone the thickness of a credit card, I'm all for it and Samsung can eat it. Sure I like your TVs, but the rest of your tech, not so much.
 
The audience took way to long to understand the reference. When the iPhone comes with a headphone jack, this guy will be pretty embarrassed.
 
Sigh, your headphone speakers are still analog, so all this achieves is moving the DAC from the phone to the headphones. Your "50 year old technology" is still present. And your "limit the size of our devices" just moves that bit of size from the device to the headphones (or dongle).

Moving the DAC to the headphones is actually a good thing. After all, we carry the phone around all the time, but not always the headphones so reducing weight/bulk is always a good thing. Also, this means we can choose headphones which offer different DAC if the sound matters to us.

Apple will always be about the masses. And the majority of consumers are listening to their music either over bluetooth or Airplay speakers already, and slowly warming up to wireless headphones. It will be just like wireless networking; some people will always need the speed of a wired LAN, while for the vast majority wifi is just more convenient and fast enough.

We all moved on from 30-pin dock connector to Lightning, so I'm sure we'll survive this change.
 
Two things... First, No headphone jack on the GS8.

Secondly, the thing this phone doesn't have is updates. Not sure what is worse?
 
Could be the biggest embarrassment in this guy's life...

It wouldn't be the first time Samsung made fun of Apple's headphone jack... remember the commercial where Samsung made fun of Apple for moving the headphone jack to the bottom of the phone? Samsung did the same a few years later. We all know Samsung will follow Apple's lead and remove the headphone jack in future devices so it seems shortsighted of this guy to focus on that.
 
If this is the road to making the iPhone the thickness of a credit card, I'm all for it and Samsung can eat it. Sure I like your TVs, but the rest of your tech, not so much.

Their TVs are kinda crappy in some ways as well. One issue is that anyone can be near your Smart TV and try to screen mirror their device to your TV. You have an option on whether to grant them approval but the fact that you still see the request and can't turn it off permanently sucks.
 
Could be the biggest embarrassment in this guy's life...

I'm embarrassed reading your comment. It's absolutely stupid of Apple to remove that jack. The lightning jack is NOT an improvement. Let's take a 10 cent connector and replace it with one that requires a $10-20 adapter to function for 90% of all headphones on the earth. Smart move by Apple to gain a stereo speaker (funny how Android phones manage to have stereo sound AND keep a headphone jack). Bluetooth sound has been inferior to a simple wired jack (low data rates) and require charging headphones on top of the phone.

Oh I know. Let's all drink some Apple Kool-Aid and pretend it's a SMART move to get rid of that jack and replace it with a jack that is NOT A WORLD-WIDE STANDARD. Maybe Apple would like Android to remove their jack too and then headphone makers can fight over lightning versus micro-USB 3? Those "standards" could be gone in less than ten years. The current headphone jack has been around for ages and there's nothing wrong with it. It's a stupid move. I won't be buying an iPhone 7.

Another cringe moment from Samsung.

Another cringe moment from Apple fanatics ranting about how a stupid move by Apple is somehow magically a good thing.
 
It's like mocking phones for not having wireless charging feature and removable battery, which, if you haven't been following around, Samsung also has gotten rid of. If you are going to support a feature and push it forward, trying to "innovate" things, don't suddenly drop support on your innovative new project. They did exactly the same thing with NFC payments, playing as if only Apple had supported NFC, we could have eliminated plastic card altogether. But look where we are with so-called Samsung Pay, they decided to keep MST and call NFC nonsense. I don't know whose tune to dance by now.
 
Better yet get on them for using their own sole proprietor cables and fleecing there customers that way as well.
 
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Clearly Samsung is hostile towards Lenovo, as the Moto Z is already out and has no headphone jack (and surprisingly received positive reviews).
 
I love it and hope the press, competitors, and everyone else bashes the heck out of Apple if they do indeed remove the 3.5mm audio jack. The 3.5mm audio jack is one of the few standards that "just works" across laptops, desktops, music players, phones, tablets, automobiles, stereos, even the audio jacks on certain Boeing and Airbus aircraft (I was on a United flight earlier in the week and loved that I could move my earbuds from the seat audio jack to my iPad and back).

The 3.5mm audio jack affects hundreds of millions of consumers around the world who have spent a lot of money on high end headphones and/or earbuds. Yes, the iPhone supports Bluetooth and a certain segment of the consumer market prefers to use wireless headphones/earbuds, but the vast majority of consumers still use a wired audio playback device.

Yea, yea, yea I've heard all the arguments about sound quality (bogus) and the arguments about "moving forward" with new standards ... but it won't be a new standard because Apple will use it's lighting port, which is not a standard adopted by other manufacturers. Don't forget even Apple's new MacBook, uses a 3.5mm audio jack and a USB-C port, where is the lightning jack on that new device. I guess new MacBook users will need to use 3.5mm audio on their brand new MacBook and lightning on their iPhone 7's.

If the 3.5mm jack is removed, Apple will have gone too far in its "cult quest" to shave a fraction of a mm from the thickness of the iPhone. I say to Apple, keep the mm of thickness, keep the 3.5mm jack and give us more batter life.
 
The quality of audio produced from the digital data transmitted via lightning port will not improve after 3.5mm jack is removed. It'll stay exactly the same and will depend on the quality of the external DAC and amplifier (as it always was)


Currently the 3.5mm jack uses the DAC built into the iphone. With the lightning port a digital signal is sent direct the the DAC built into the headphone. This will allow a higher quality signal sent direct to a higher quality DAC.
 
Sigh, your headphone speakers are still analog, so all this achieves is moving the DAC from the phone to the headphones. Your "50 year old technology" is still present. And your "limit the size of our devices" just moves that bit of size from the device to the headphones (or dongle).

It still needs a DAC, to run the internal speakers , but now instead of a quality DAC, you get the cheapest crap, maximising profit, and you can charge for the DAC in the adapter.

As you said, nothing actually changes , we just get inconvinience so Apple can profit .
 
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I guess we can put you down as someone who agrees with EVERYTHING Apple does, huh?

You get that by me stating a fact? I don't care either way about the headphone port. I don't use it anyway. But the point is, if Apple does it, Samsung will copy it.
 
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