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These days, it seems Samsung appears be innovating more than Apple in the mobile phone market.
nonsense. Samsung's product line is
based on iPhone. from the case design and its ripoff design cues, to the fingerprint reader, etc.
[doublepost=1470187376][/doublepost]odd comment from Samsung since, even if Apple removed the mini-phono jack,
it will still have an audio jack -- Lightning. dur
 
The Note series have had something comparable to 3D touch years (at least since Note 3 in 2013) before Apple introduced it. Hover with the pen just above the screen without touching it and you get a 'deeper' look at the elements beneath the pen tip - much like 3D touch.

That is absolutely nothing like 3D touch.
 
nonsense. Samsung's product line is
based on iPhone. from the case design and its ripoff design cues, to the fingerprint reader, etc.
[doublepost=1470187376][/doublepost]odd comment from Samsung since, even if Apple removed the mini-phono jack,
it will still have an audio jack -- Lightning. dur
Not if it's not analog out. It is no more an audio jack than a charging port.
 
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nonsense. Samsung's product line is
based on iPhone. from the case design and its ripoff design cues, to the fingerprint reader, etc.

And many iOS features are based on jailbreak tweaks from other developers. Not to mention, Apple never did the "huge phone" thing until after Samsung. Point being, Apple copies too. Don't act like they don't.

odd comment from Samsung since, even if Apple removed the mini-phono jack, it will still have an audio jack -- Lightning. dur

I think you missed the point.
 
I am absolutely 100% certain. They are not being honest that is for sure. You have 4 components. 1: The file 2: The DAC 3: The amp 4: the speakers.

If you are using the same DAC and the same amp and the same speakers for the test... then there should be no difference in audio. The wired headphones that come with your iphone will support ANY bitrate audio. Yeah the drivers sound like crap, but you can go all the way up to 24bit/192Khz if your DAC and audio files support it. Making the argument that some new connector has better audio quality is completely unsubstantiated, ignorant and total marketing garbage.
I see. That makes it more clear for me. Thank you.
 
You're responding to a comment that says, "until we switch over to digital ears or a direct brain connection, the music has to go analog at some point along the path." Are you merely agreeing?
There are a couple of completely ignorant comments that I am addressing.
 
And after all this by the morning of September 16th the best smartphone on the market will be released and literally like always will outpace EVERYTHING on the market until next September again. This is not being partial by any means I just feel it's been that way for the last decade what makes ANYONE think 2016 will be different?
 
Then Samsung removes it next year for S8 / Note 8 along with the physical home button. They called iPhone users wall huggers with S5 only to have non removable battery for S6 and battery was short!
 
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At least the Galaxy phones have the aptX codec over Bluetooth that makes the wireless sound option a good choice over wired sound. iPhones on the other hand doesn't even support that.

The removal of the audio jack means that Apple has something up its sleeve regarding audio. A couple years back it was rumored to be working on HD sound. I'm thinking we will see that this year.
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And after all this by the morning of September 16th the best smartphone on the market will be released and literally like always will outpace EVERYTHING on the market until next September again. This is not being partial by any means I just feel it's been that way for the last decade what makes ANYONE think 2016 will be different?

So true. The funny thing is that it seems that Samsung analyzes rumor sites on anything Apple to try to get a leg up. I bet you Apple doesn't get 2 figs about Samsung rumors...
 
The removal of the audio jack means that Apple has something up its sleeve regarding audio. A couple years back it was rumored to be working on HD sound. I'm thinking we will see that this year.
And what do you think that will be?

I'm pretty sure it's something that wont be better than what we already have. You can count me in on that. Because HD sound is perfectly good via the 3.5mm minijack.

I'm gonna tell you exactly what Apple have up it's sleeves. And that's more profits for getting other heaphone producers to sell their headphones with a proprietary port from Apple that Apple is going to take a huge tax on for using.

Anyone with a brain will see this as the reason.
 
I am absolutely 100% certain. They are not being honest that is for sure. You have 4 components. 1: The file 2: The DAC 3: The amp 4: the speakers.

If you are using the same DAC and the same amp and the same speakers for the test... then there should be no difference in audio. The wired headphones that come with your iphone will support ANY bitrate audio. Yeah the drivers sound like crap, but you can go all the way up to 24bit/192Khz if your DAC and audio files support it. Making the argument that some new connector has better audio quality is completely unsubstantiated, ignorant and total marketing garbage.
Agreed that Lightning-based headphones are not an automatic path to better sound quality, merely by dint of the connector. But analog headphones on the iPhone are currently limited by the quality of the DAC and amplifier circuitry that Apple chooses to include. With the signal presumably emerging as a digital stream (though nothing's stopping them from extending the proprietary Lightning standard, which uses on-the-fly reassignable pins, to include a new code that says, "these three wires will now contain analog stereo"), there is opportunity for companies to make headphones with substantially better DACs and amplifiers than what is included inside the iPhone (you could argue that they could do such already; I have a feeling the lack of an analog jack may put more of a spotlight on this). Whether anyone actually will remains to be seen.
 
Agreed that Lightning-based headphones are not an automatic path to better sound quality, merely by dint of the connector. But analog headphones on the iPhone are currently limited by the quality of the DAC and amplifier circuitry that Apple chooses to include. With the signal presumably emerging as a digital stream (though nothing's stopping them from extending the proprietary Lightning standard, which uses on-the-fly reassignable pins, to include a new code that says, "these three wires will now contain analog stereo"), there is opportunity for companies to make headphones with substantially better DACs and amplifiers than what is included inside the iPhone (you could argue that they could do such already; I have a feeling the lack of an analog jack may put more of a spotlight on this). Whether anyone actually will remains to be seen.
In reality, people will continue to purchase by price and will end up with lower audio quality and less choice than they have today.
 
And what do you think that will be?

I'm pretty sure it's something that wont be better than what we already have. You can count me in on that. Because HD sound is perfectly good via the 3.5mm minijack.

I'm gonna tell you exactly what Apple have up it's sleeves. And that's more profits for getting other heaphone producers to sell their headphones with a proprietary port from Apple that Apple is going to take a huge tax on for using.

Anyone with a brain will see this as the reason.


Don't get too riled up just yet especially on rumors. Let's pass judgement when it's official and we have all the facts.
 
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This time they are right. If true, this is a massive mistake by Apple. I guarantee that future phones will re-introduce the jack. It's so wrong on so many levels to leave this out!
 
When ever I do the next upgrade of my phone, if by then, Apple phones no longer have the audio jack.
I will switch to Samsung or another phone, which does supply it.

The audio jack is too critical for me. And no, an adapter is not an elegant solution.
 
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Better audio quality than the regular headphone jack .
You are so wrong on so many levels.
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I really hope Apple is right on this like they were on removing the floppy-drive and the optical disk, but I'm afraid this will turn out to be just as silly as 5400 rpm HDD iMacs and 16 GB iPhones in 2016.
The difference here is that you're not forced to by an entry level 16Gb phone which works for many people.
 
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