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I'm just surprised Samsung doesn't go after Apple harder over the headphone dongle situation.

I think some iPhone buyers simply gave up and gave in to Apple's pressure.

My daughter, who with her friends held off getting a jackless model for an extra year or two, finally gave in and now puts up with the dongle... although I had to buy a spare to keep in one car so she could still plug in if she forgot hers.
 
I'm just surprised Samsung doesn't go after Apple harder over the headphone dongle situation.

I agree. I don’t understand why the consumers didn’t put pressure on Apple either. All these dongles is just ridiculous.
 
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its time apple should comeback with something..
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Probably? Do you actually know? It’s more than 10 minutes. There are plenty of things they could talk about. I’m sure when Apple give us the fast charger with this years iPhone X fast charging will be ‘amazing’
I hope you know this.."Apple device batteries last longer than Samsung..more than 5 yrs in some cases". Faster charging kills battery life in longer run. Faster charging is good, but not something which you can not live with. Battery technology still not matured for that.
[doublepost=1532304568][/doublepost]Now , i want to see "Oneplus" ads comparing with Samsung..they can kill Samsung with that..:):)
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I'm just surprised Samsung doesn't go after Apple harder over the headphone dongle situation.
may be they are trying to ditch headphone jack in their next phone. Playing safe.
 
taking away the headphone jack is the dumbest design move ever. It is a phone and some times people will stay on it for hours over long conference calls. not only such customers are forced to buy the airpod, they also need carry a pair of wired ear phone so that they can charge the phone and airpod alternately. this is exactly what my wife does every time on such three hour long phone calls. don’t tell me apple has long battery hours, no one can keep the battery at full level all the time.
 
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These adverts are embarrassing. Why doesn't Samsung focus on showcasing their products instead of bashing the competition? Are they trying to be Microsoft or something?!

I think you will find that the cell phone market in the States is saturated... so to increase share you need to go after other companies Users... ie. phone carriers, phone manufacturers....

A lot more US v THEM ads are acoming....
 
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Audiophiles will say analog sound to superior to digital but that is another story and debate. You can get high quality audio if you copied the cd at a higher bit rate in iTunes.

The best you can do is lossless encoding at 16 bits at 44.1 kHz. CD sources aren't any better than that, and the real audiophile snobs already pooh pooh that.

I don't see why the audio quality would be any lower in the iPhone than from an iPod. As long as the music was recorded in high quality, the rest will vary in the headphones and yes you can hear the differences.

Real audio snobs will complain that the DAC and audio circuitry in an iPhone or an iPod isn't good enough. They'll want to use artisanal external DACs connected digitally to the source device.

In other words, a dongle.
 
Has anyone seen a Galaxy S6 in the wild since the year it was released? I still see iPhone 5/5s's out there. The most interesting thing about Samsung phones, is that you never see them.
 
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I see folks with older Samsungs. I would feel bad for anyone with an iPhone 5. It is super slow.
 
These adverts are embarrassing. Why doesn't Samsung focus on showcasing their products instead of bashing the competition? Are they trying to be Microsoft or something?!

Because that’s what you do when you’re not the leader, and in Samsung’s case, falling farther behind. Apple ran those I’m a Mac, I’m a PC ads cos Apple was a distant second to Windows. They still are, but the mindset has shifted and Apple is in a much stronger position in the PC space and is seen as a leader which is why they no longer need to run those types of ads.
 
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Is there a statute of limitation or something?
If you think its ok, only when Apple puts down their competition, then you are part of the “Double Dongle Team.”
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This logic is so obnoxious.
If you think its ok, only when Apple puts down their competition, then you are part of the “Double Dongle Team.” Congratulations!
You missed the point. Samsung is cutting down the competition's customers and staff, not the competition as a company, or a product. It's not a subtle difference.
 
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SAMSUNG AD AGENCY: Hey buddy, the ONLY reason the iPhone outsells you 6 to 1 is not quality, speed, battery life, security, software, hardware nor free support for lie in retail locations worldwide, it's simply marketing! Give us a giant check, we'll buy ads for you! AND we'll spend $5 million on ads we shot on an iphone 5 (we'll keep the rest of the $4.92 mm as our "fee" and you will almost assuredly sell more phones, probably! ... (mutters under breath) not enough to make up for $200 million on marketing but then, hey, the seaweed snack division can make up for it (yes, Samsung sells seaweed snacks)).

SAMSUNG: What will you focus on?

AD AGENCY: The screens!

SAMSUNG: We sell them screens.

AGENCY: Um, okay, give us three weeks, I'm sure we can make up/come up something, anything!

FOUR WEEKS LATER

AGENCY: Tada! If you want to use old headphones, you need a connector! Sure, they give you one for free and they include a free new headphone BUT if you want to use a I'm sure top of the line Android USB-mini C headphone, you need to use an adapter! There must be at least 9 people worldwide who hate it, That's 9 new Galaxy's we've sold you for you right there. The ONLY reason is marketing! It's not like Google who controls the search ad bar puts up $8 billion dollars of Pixel android phone ads and has a market share of .07%
You don’t need an adapter to use any ‘old’ headphones with the S9.
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its time apple should comeback with something..
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I hope you know this.."Apple device batteries last longer than Samsung..more than 5 yrs in some cases". Faster charging kills battery life in longer run. Faster charging is good, but not something which you can not live with. Battery technology still not matured for that.
[doublepost=1532304568][/doublepost]Now , i want to see "Oneplus" ads comparing with Samsung..they can kill Samsung with that..:):)
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may be they are trying to ditch headphone jack in their next phone. Playing safe.
Well no Apple batteries do not last longer than Samsung batteries. In fact in recent phones Apple batteries were so defective that phones were shutting off and the only way Apple could fix this was to use software to slow down older devices. Apple batteries were so defective that Apple are now running a programme to replace your battery. I hope you know that.

Also your point about fast charging damaging the battery is true but irrelevant. Apple got up on stage and promoted fast charging as a feature of the iPhone X and 8 and 8 plus. They just didn’t include one on the box and want users to pay extra for it. Apple are going to be including a fast charger in the box with this years phones ....
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OP said "not that long ago". Stating the fact that it was 8.5 years ago.
And I’ll say it again it doesn’t matter how long ago it was. Apple still did it.
 
Has anyone seen a Galaxy S6 in the wild since the year it was released? I still see iPhone 5/5s's out there. The most interesting thing about Samsung phones, is that you never see them.
See them all the time. Older and newer Samsung phones.
 
I agree. I don’t understand why the consumers didn’t put pressure on Apple either. All these dongles is just ridiculous.

Maybe it simply hasn’t been the problem all you alarmists have been making it out to be.

its time apple should comeback with something..

Why bother? Apple’s sales figures and profits pretty much speak for themselves. Be it in smartphones, tablets, wearables, even app sales, Apple is winning where it counts.
 
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Maybe it simply hasn’t been the problem all you alarmists have been making it out to be.



Why bother? Apple’s sales figures and profits pretty much speak for themselves. Be it in smartphones, tablets, wearables, even app sales, Apple is winning where it counts.

It is an inconvenience for many they just lived with it.
 
Yes. All valid arguments. No headphone jack is why my wife went with Samsung and gave up on Apple. I plan on doing the same when my iPhone dies.
This is why I still use my 6s. When that goes who knows where I'll be

My macbook is just an internet browser at this point as I game on a PC that already supports my USB related dongles....
 
In Sept 2016, Samsung recalled the Note 7 due to overheating and fires...same month, same year, Apple announced the removal of the 3.5 jack from the iPhone 7. If Samsung can flog old news in their ads, MR users can do the same in their comments IMO.

Not quite. The removal of the 3.5 jack is a current and ongoing "feature." The Samsung fire "feature" was short-lived and corrected.
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seems like they don't have anything worthy of talking about other than a aux port and a charger that is probably only like 10 minutes faster than the iPhone charger. but hey it's 10 minutes
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there were plenty of folks that thought those ads were stupid AF

I loved those ads, and they prompted me to buy my first Apple product way back when. It was a great ride with Apple for a while. Then Tim Cook happened.
 
Yes. All valid arguments. No headphone jack is why my wife went with Samsung and gave up on Apple. I plan on doing the same when my iPhone dies.

Honestly I never missed it, going to an iPhone7 a couple years ago. Prior to getting the phone I had Bose Wireless headphones which I use for listening at my desk, and for phone calls I use either a plantronics BT headset or I pull out my lightning ear buds (I can use the Bose as well, but i don't like doing that). I have the lightning-to-aux dongle in my bag, but I've never used it. Truthfully there are only a couple of times I could see wanting an aux jack:
 
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While this may not be the 'correct' way of advertising. It's sadly true.
Seems we have to pay more generation after generation but still don't get 'more'.
How can a fastcharger not be included in a 1000 dollar phone?!
Same story for the donglelife, particularly for macbook pro owners
 
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Even if you don't switch platforms this puts pressure on Apple to catch up with the competition so smart consumers win.

#1 rule for smart consumers is more for less $$$

Don't understand all the crying but they're probably Apple employees. :D
What?? In the world of Apple fans,
$1 rule for smart consumers is less for more $$$$. Money is cheap, not the features!:D
 
I just don't see the dongle thing as a problem. I have two. One is permanently on my desk at the office. It is a wonder. I literally plug in one USB-C cable and I'm connected to four hard drives, two monitors, my MacBook charger, lightning cable, keyboard, document scanner, USB microphone, biofeedback hardware (I'm a therapist) and speakers. The other sits on my desk at home--smaller setup that includes a memory card reader for downloading photos. Granted, these setups use USB hubs but one cable also gets me power and to the monitors. Pretty wonderful.
I had 3 just bought 2 more..I can't seem to keep them where I need them!
I think its says something that this dongle is one of the highest selling units at Best buy!
I love Apple stuff but their idea that a dongle solves all problems is ridiculous.
Too bad that if you want a built in dvd you have to buy a 2012 MacBook, or to get a headphone jack you have to buy
a 6S..crazy
 
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