Translation: "We spent billions in R&D for this tech and now we hope to make that money back, because people hav realized how gimmicky it really is."
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Samsung Offers to Supply Foldable Displays to Apple and Google
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Foldable phones are a rounding error on Apples balance sheet too.
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They develop a lot of things in their Area 51, because that’s how you evaluate the potential if you are smart. But most of those things don’t get made into actual products.
Right. People will inly adapt this technology if prices fall below 500$. Only a small percentage of buyers chose the 1000$+ flagship, the majority picks 500 and below phones.
And who needs a tablet for convenience can get those beginning at 200$ in a good quality.
The fold screen will only be a success if it’s included without additional costs. And if it is the same durable as nowadays screens.
Fold screens are like 3d television, it’s nice to have it included, but nobody spend extra money on it and it died.
I just truly believe that a folding phone is something Apple would take to the next level engineering wise.
Of course they will sell them. I called this way before it was announced.
The capital required to build foldable display technology forces the manufacturer to sell the technology to others to cover the cost, because they can’t sell enough on their own.
Samsung isn’t stupid. This is just business and those of us who understand business aren’t surprised.
This is also why Apple’s supplier business model is so incredibly good and keeps their profitablity high. You don’t have to build the stuff yourself and can shop suppliers like going to the mall. Making your own components is tough sledding.
The capital required to build foldable display technology forces the manufacturer to sell the technology to others to cover the cost, because they can’t sell enough on their own.
Samsung isn’t stupid. This is just business and those of us who understand business aren’t surprised.
This is also why Apple’s supplier business model is so incredibly good and keeps their profitablity high. You don’t have to build the stuff yourself and can shop suppliers like going to the mall. Making your own components is tough sledding.
I think foldable tech is cool, but the implementation by Samsung and Huawei is cumbersome. The point of folding is portability while also being able to show more content in the unfolded shape, but at the price point of these foldables, you can get a XS and iPad Pro, and have better experiences on both without the cumbersome designs and design trade-offs. The tech is neat and will certainly evolve, but in 2019, I'd rather spend that money on a XS/iPad Pro and have separate devices.
Well if there does become a race for the foldable phone displays, Samsung is poised to prosper. At least until other screen manufacturers begin to ramp up production, but that seems to be far away.
Ive will never allow for a folding Apple anything...because when you fold it, it becomes thicker.
Apple will certainly not participate in this stage of development (plastic surface, sensitive to scratches).
I consider, just Android fanboys will like to spend $1980 (Galaxy fold) or $2615 excl.45-tax (Mate X) for wrapping their OS into plastic wear.
Both companie's clips skilfully cross-faded the buckling problem.
You can watch two untrained parts:
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08:06:50
It all goes down to implementation. Currently beta stuff. I'm not impressed. Another gimmick IMHO
I consider, just Android fanboys will like to spend $1980 (Galaxy fold) or $2615 excl.45-tax (Mate X) for wrapping their OS into plastic wear.
Both companie's clips skilfully cross-faded the buckling problem.
You can watch two untrained parts:
02:39:00
08:06:50
It all goes down to implementation. Currently beta stuff. I'm not impressed. Another gimmick IMHO
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Like the stupid segment the Galaxy Note started
I remember Steve Ballmer laughing at the original iPhone as being over priced. He said nobody will buy it because it doesn't have mass appeal and costs too much.
iPhold would be a good name and the concept of a small smartphone with the ability to turn into a small tablet is definitely not a “iPhad”. It would be on the birthday/Christmas wish lists of a lot of people.
It’s worth consideration, for sure. I don’t know if Apple is convinced in bringing a foldable device to market, but I am sure they will evaluate the tech and see if there is something compelling there. Personally, I don’t think larger screens are where tech is going. I see us reverting to more minimal, but meaningful interactions with technology, likely through wearables. Maybe that’s ultimately where we see this tech being implemented.
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I don't often agree with you, but here you are absolutely correct.
AMD did similar when they sold off their FAB's and outsourced. the cost of fabbing their own chips was so massive due to all of what you said (and more).
the capital that Samsung probably also spent on R&D for folding AMOLED is massive. Of course they're going to want to sell as many foldable displays (not talking the Galaxy fold, I mean the panels themselves) as possible.
anyone who doesn't know this or see this has a fundamental lack of understanding of business.
We have heard this comment before, Apple will not adopt AMOLED, will not incorporate a second camera, will not offer phablets, so on and blah blah. It is only time.
How? You're a mac user.
Yeah and it's understandable for what you're getting and trying to do. Good thing we've got Apple to fix that.... oh wait, they neither have decent GPUs, VR support or even a respectable pricetag on any of their existing gimped hardware.
No, they're zero.
And what's your point. In 2006 Apple did not sell a single smartphone. Product lines evolve. But Apple is a smartphone company right now. Samsung is an everything company that makes smartphones as a negligible part of their business.
If a single-product company like Apple takes a single mis-step with that product, they're done.
Those nay sayers will praise Tim Cook once it is released and will proclaim it’s done better, then sit back after a big gulp of the kool-aid.
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I absolutely agree with this. I think Apple is going to move more towards a focus on minimal meaningful interactions with iOS user tech, and I believe the iPhone will evolve to be the hub of the Apple ecosystem.