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Samsung Recalls New Galaxy Note7 Due to Exploding Batteries [Updated]
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Do you think that fewer iPhones exploded/burned than Samsung phones? One would also have to take into account the fact Samsung sells at least twice as many smart phones as Apple.
Exactly. And people say Steve Jobs's Apple isn't still alive
He would've done the same thing!
I said Samsung is wrong at shipping dangerous phone in the first place.
Beside that, it is borderline ridiculous to draw a parallel between a defective device that threaten you and a simply badly functional device. You ask Apple to react to "touch disease" like if you are in danger !
Apple sells at least 2X as many iPhones as Samsung sells Galaxy S or Note flagships.
There have been lots of burned or exploded phones over the years from both companies. When you sell hundreds of millions of devices this sort of thing happens.
Samsung has had a ridiculously high number of Note 7 fires/explosions considering how few they sold and the fact it's only been out a few weeks. This is why they're doing a recall to fix a very real problem (flaw) with the Note 7 and why previous fires (from Samsung or Apple) didn't (they fell with the normal range of these types of failures vs number of devices in use).
He said that if same happened to apple they would do nothing for years. This is idiotic and outrageous. He was well within his right call him a shill.
Lol...Well, they could have done like Apple when they screwed up and tell you you're charging it wrong.
Lol good point. My original account is from 2002 though. I don't post that much and don't visit that often anymore I think you can figure that out!
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I never said I didn't use batteries and I wasn't drinking yesterday but who knows. I'm really just tired of Samsung articles. Hell, I'm tired of 75% of the Apple articles. There is too much low hanging fruit here and I find it annoying.
No sir, he had no right to claim someone was being paid to post a comment. Heck, there are lots of people every day who post opinions which someone will disagree with, all for free! Welcome to the internet
He should attack the claim, not the person giving it. (Otherwise someone could call HIM an Apple shill. Or I could claim you're getting paid to defend him. See? Such name calling never ends.)
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So instead he could've said something like, "Give me an example of Apple ignoring a dangerous product for years."
To which the other person could've cited the years it took for Apple to settle multiple class action lawsuits (filed in 2006 and 2009, settled in 2008 and 2011) over two separate types of frayed, sparking and melting power cables. Oops. Wait. That would prove his point.
Umm, okay, he could've said something more specific like, "Give me an example of Apple doing nothing about dangerous iPhones for years."
There. That would work. In fact, he could've pointed out that Apple even sold their official power adapters in China for half price for a while, to help stop all the reports of "exploding" iPhones from people using third party chargers.
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"For the record".... this doesn't appear to be related to transporting Li-Ion batteries (this rule was also changed MONTHS ago, says you can't ship Li-Ion batteries with >30% charge). This is a problem with the design of the device and the phone not able to contain/release heat while charging.
Personally, always speculated that a waterproof design for your MINI-COMPUTER gives too many challenges for the current quality of device.. sound quality, picture quality... and, similarly, heat retention and distribution. Looks as though I won't be changing my argument soon!
No sir, he had no right to claim someone was being paid to post a comment. Heck, there are lots of people every day who post opinions which someone will disagree with, all for free! Welcome to the internet
He should attack the claim, not the person giving it. (Otherwise someone could call HIM an Apple shill. Or I could claim you're getting paid to defend him. See? Such name calling never ends.)
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So he could've said something like, "Give me an example of Apple ignoring a dangerous product for years."
To which the other person could've cited the years it took for Apple to settle multiple class action lawsuits (in 2006 and 2009) over two separate types of frayed, sparking and melting power cables. Oh. Wait. That would prove his point.
Umm, okay, he could've said something more specific like, "Give me an example of Apple doing nothing about dangerous iPhones for years."
There. That would work. In fact, he could've pointed out that Apple even sold their official power adapters in China for half price for a while, to help stop all the reports of "exploding" iPhones from people using third party chargers.
shill |ʃɪl | N. Amer. informal nounan accomplice of a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others. I used to be a shill in a Reno gambling club. figurative : the agency is a shill for the nuclear power industry.• a person who pretends to give an impartial endorsement of something in which they themselves have an interest. a megamillionaire who makes more money as a shill for corporate products than he does for playing basketball.
The definition does not imply a person is paid for what he does.
Just saying ....
"I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS LONGER THAN YOU"
Holy ****, calm your boner, I can argue I've been on the internet for 25 years so therefore my opinion matters more than yours. Unless you've ever been an Apple employee you still know literally nothing about how the company deals with this stuff
That doesn't do much for people who have already purchased the phone though, does is. "Free bumper" is the only 'solution' I see in any of these phones, and it doesn't really solve it as much as it does cover up the problem (literally).
Exactly. And people say Steve Jobs's Apple isn't still alive
He would've done the same thing!
Apple recalled the Beats speakers as soon as they acquired the brand so....
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Don't sit on your ****ing computer. There's your solution for your quote "touch disease". People put their 200 pound asses on their computers and it bends the logic board which connects everything. It's not a manufacturing problem, it's a problem with people treating their $900 devices like ****.
I have this beautiful Note 7 in my hand and it's just fine. I wish it would explode right next to my face, however because I'd be worth millions!
You've got to admit though Apple has really fallen behind in design. Huge bezel, old fashioned LCDs with poor resolution, and soon a missing headphone jack. Oh, but they will be thinner.
I'm not worried because Samsung will take care of customers. It's Asian culture to be the very best they can and fix mistakes right away. People in Samsung and suppliers will be held responsible. That's the difference between an American company and an Asian one. American firms have been screwing up for years (including Apple) and when it happens CEOs get bonuses instead of being fired or disciplined.
Are you implying that other Samsung phones do not have batteries? Besides, large number of iPhone sales comprises of the older models that compete directly with cheaper Samsung phones (not in the S/Note lines)
You don't hide it, but you either claim it's such a rare issue it can barely be called an issue at all, or you blame the customers that are victim's of it.
This hits close to home because I have an Macbook pro (early 2011) that I use for graphics work. every year and a half the graphics card fails. The first time (in 2012) they repaired it free of charge after 2 phone calls and an email to corporate. The second time (2014) It was a "fluke" and not an issue on Apple's end, so they charged me $600 to fix it. The third time (2015) I brought in a stack of articles about the issue, a printout of a current class action lawsuit about the issue, The genius, the manager and The people at Apple that I emailed acted like they had never heard of this issue, and made it seem like once again I was the only person in the world with this issue. I had to shell out another $600 dollars
a few months later I got an email from Apple telling me that Apple had acknowledged the problem and would be refunding me both payed repairs.
I understand that unforeseen problems happen, but companies handle things very differently. samsung coming right out, acknowledging the problem and fixing it, is much better than denying the problem until social media and news pressure becomes to big to ignore.
I was just highlighting **** that Apple fed to their customers, myself included.
And I don't even wanna mention other products...
It sucks for people that went with Note 7 right now, but they'll be fine in few weeks... I preordered Note 7 and still gonna go with it... I like the idea of 5.7" display in compact body
People with $50 throwaway phones don't rush to tech blogs or YouTube to complain. People who drop $800 on their phone will.
Samsung also continues to sell older Galaxy models alongside newer ones. So what's your point again? However you spin it the bottom line is the iPhone outsells Samsung by a huge margin (comparing Apples to Apples).
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I was just highlighting **** that Apple fed to their customers, myself included.
And I don't even wanna mention other products...
It sucks for people that went with Note 7 right now, but they'll be fine in few weeks... I preordered Note 7 and still gonna go with it... I like the idea of 5.7" display in compact body
That's fine and your preference. For me I could never justify spending over $800 on a phone that's slower than a year old iPhone, has a poorer selection of Apps and will stop getting updates 18 months after I bought it. That's simply not acceptable to me in a device at that price range.
Exactly, my preference, and I am sure I'll be able to set it up to my liking. Like, for example, I would never use iPhone without VirtualHome tweak.
On the contrary, all the definitions in there imply that. Because that's what a shill is. They get something in return for an endorsement.
In the examples, the swindler's accomplice is paid to entice customers. The agency is secretly paid to endorse nuclear power. The millionaire makes money endorsing products.
Even when it's used as just an insult, say about a critic who disses a movie, it's implying that someone could or should get paid for doing what they do, because their opinions make no sense otherwise.
What did you think it meant? And how was it not an insult, no matter what you thought?