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Samsung Releases New Galaxy S III Ad Poking Fun at iPhone 5 Launch

Oppressed said:
Can you answer my other question though? Do both people have to have the same GS3 to use S-beam?
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You should be able to beam between any NFC Android device with ICS or later. I use a Verizon Galaxy Nexus; my son-in-law uses a Sprint Evo 4G.

Can you S-Beam to say a Blackberry with NFC or a Razr?
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I didn't know, but that's a darned good question, since quite a few Blackberrys, Windows Phone, Android, Symbian, Meego and other devices do have NFC, and most do have a form of Beam as well. (Here's a list of all current NFC equipped phones.)

So I grabbed the specs from the NFC forum. Apparently they all use the "NFC peer-to-peer" communications mode. This is intended for device to device messaging.

So to answer your basic question, it looks like all NFC devices should all be able to talk to each other. But what do they say? Okay...

Over that comm link, the NFC Data Exchange Format (NDEF) is used to send messages for things like setting up Bluetooth or WiFi connections, transferring contacts, data, photos, etc.

Each message type can be a URI, a MIME type, or a custom designator. E.g. if a web URL is sent, then it's up to the receiving device to ignore it, open a browser, store it as a bookmark, or whatever.

So would all phones recognize or do something with all message types from each other? Doubtful, but they could if the manufacturer wanted to. Many probably can share files at least, over a Bluetooth link they set up this way.

Thanks for asking. I learned something new myself!
 
dkersten said:
People who get upset or flustered over an ad like this really need to re-prioritize their life. Why does it matter if others prefer something else? Its a stupid phone, get over it and move on. I personally find these adds funny, and I have an iPhone
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I found the first one or two slightly funny. But now I'm finding it a little pathetic and silly. It's not because I'm an Apple user or I'm hurt or anything like that. It's simply that I just find it a little sad that Samsung keeps feeling the need to slag off users who choose differently. And that's because I agree with your first statement, it's just a phone. People should choose what works for them. And I think Samsung making these adverts is pushing a mentality to slag off people who don't use the same product as you, or to view them is stupid, thick or sheeps. They aren't. Let people do what they will. If they want to line up for the iPhone, let them. If they want to buy Apple, fine. If they want Android, ok. Let's not keep mocking the other.
 
ABSOLUUUUUTLEY HILLLLLLAAAAAARRRRRIIIIOOOUUUUUSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Best part was the dude holding a spot for his parents. SOOOO TRUUUUUUE!!!!

As for all you people claiming Sammy is insulting Apple users, get over it! It's called an ad, and they're going after Apple. Nokia just recently did the same thing to Sammy when they unveiled their Ativ S. No harm no foul.

BUT if your insulted with Sammy's ad, you must have been EXTREMELY INSULTED by Apple's add that made Apple users look like complete IDIOTS! You know, the ones they pulled off the air? If a company can depict THEIR OWN customers in this fashion, how can you seriously be so surprised or offended by a competing company making such an ad. Seriously now. :rolleyes:
 
The funniest thing about this ad is it seethes with envy.

Samsung wants the lines, and headlines, and the devotion, but it doesn't have it.
 
Timzer said:
ABSOLUUUUUTLEY HILLLLLLAAAAAARRRRRIIIIOOOUUUUUSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Best part was the dude holding a spot for his parents. SOOOO TRUUUUUUE!!!!

As for all you people claiming Sammy is insulting Apple users, get over it! It's called an ad, and they're going after Apple. Nokia just recently did the same thing to Sammy when they unveiled their Ativ S. No harm no foul.

BUT if your insulted with Sammy's ad, you must have been EXTREMELY INSULTED by Apple's add that made Apple users look like complete IDIOTS! You know, the ones they pulled off the air? If a company can depict THEIR OWN customers in this fashion, how can you seriously be so surprised or offended by a competing company making such an ad. Seriously now.
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Samsung's nickname is Sammy? LMFAO!
 
kdarling said:
You should be able to beam between any NFC Android device with ICS or later. I use a Verizon Galaxy Nexus; my son-in-law uses a Sprint Evo 4G.



I didn't know, but that's a darned good question, since quite a few Blackberrys, Windows Phone, Android, Symbian, Meego and other devices do have NFC, and most do have a form of Beam as well. (Here's a list of all current NFC equipped phones.)

So I grabbed the specs from the NFC forum. Apparently they all use the "NFC peer-to-peer" communications mode. This is intended for device to device messaging.

So to answer your basic question, it looks like all NFC devices should all be able to talk to each other. But what do they say? Okay...

Over that comm link, the NFC Data Exchange Format (NDEF) is used to send messages for things like setting up Bluetooth or WiFi connections, transferring contacts, data, photos, etc.

Each message type can be a URI, a MIME type, or a custom designator. E.g. if a web URL is sent, then it's up to the receiving device to ignore it, open a browser, store it as a bookmark, or whatever.

So would all phones recognize or do something with all message types from each other? Doubtful, but they could if the manufacturer wanted to. Many probably can share files at least, over a Bluetooth link they set up this way.

Thanks for asking. I learned something new myself!
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Thanks for the information. I can see it being able to send something simple like a URL, but for things like a playlist in the ad it must only work with other GS3's which severely limits the functionality.
 
Funny until someone gets hurt

LOL - funny stuff. i saw them making this commercial - i was in front of the line waiting for my iPhone 5 with my Macbook and iPad in hand!!

Did they really say GS3 in the ad?? ..they called it a GS3 now? Hhhmmm that sounds way too close to....let me call the lawyers again.:)
 
Technarchy said:
The funniest thing about this ad is it seethes with envy.

Samsung wants the lines, and headlines, and the devotion, but it doesn't have it.
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No, they want people talking, and that's exactly what your doing. Mission Accomplished Samsung. ;)
 
Technarchy said:
The funniest thing about this ad is it seethes with envy.

Samsung wants the lines, and headlines, and the devotion, but it doesn't have it.
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Imagine those Mac/PC ads, except instead of saying "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" they said "I'm a Mac User, I'm a PC User". Would've been a marketing failure. Yet that's what Samsung's doing here.
 
IamRob said:
Nope. I'm a graphic designer in New York. Just because I standy by a company that I've been using for the last 12 years doesn't make me an investor in apple. Now, run back to your bridge, troll, immature comments don't affect me.
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Yes because calling Samsung immature when it in no way affects either you or your graphic design business is real mature. And you think Samsung cares about a little advertising money. It floors me why you would cheer Apple on as they overcharge for most of their products and take pride in them selling more units than Samsung as if you made that money or accomplished something.

And if you really stood by Apple you would call them out on all their **** too, not just treat them like they can do no wrong.
 
Okay so the point of this add is to tell people now the iPhone is as good as an s3? And it's so good that people are lining up for it. Even older parents who never would have lined up for a phone before.

I just don't see their strategy with these ads. EPIC FAIL
 
Oppressed said:
Thanks for the information. I can see it being able to send something simple like a URL, but for things like a playlist in the ad it must only work with other GS3's which severely limits the functionality.
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No, not limited to the GS3. All Android phones should be able to Beam everything to each other. That is built into the OS.

I meant that it's not likely that different OSes would understand all the same extended commands. In other words, we probably couldn't send a playlist from a Blackberry to an Android phone or vice versa, because that's too specialized.

I must not have been clear, sorry.
 
ughh i was gonna comment on the vid in youtube but it's full of trolls who will just love to keep bashing the iPhone. and Apple. i read a comment on here that said, "iPhone owners don't give a s***" and... yeah that's sooo true.
 
You know, I think the difference between this ad and the old Mac ad is the old Mac ad was making fun of the product, not the users (and those who took it as the users were being a little over sensitive cause I don't think that was their purpose).

The Samsung ad is directly targeting the users of the product and blatantly insulting them (There is no grounds for argument on whether they are doing that).

Also, I'm confused as to how this ad is supposed to work for them. The ad appeals to those who already dislike the iphone and love to make fun of it. These people are already going to buy an Android phone... ah, I get it. THere are many different android phones those people could choose. Samsung is trying to get on their good side by appealing to what they feel that crowd will like (hey, we're cool, we get it. We know exactly what you think of the isheep). It's definitely not an ad trying to win over people who are already buying the iphone but those who are considering android phones (to try to win them to a Samsung Android phone).

Unlike their print ad that was aimed at those buying the iphone (notice it was a lot less insulting to the people buying iphones and just tried to make it look like the Samsung had more features). I actually though that one was pretty well executed (whether accurate or not, it doesn't have to be. It just has to be good at making the product look appealing and I think they were going for getting people to give their product a closer look).

They are doing the Geico thing, trying to cover all their bases (Geico has a bunch of very different ads all marketed at very different groups of people).

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Timzer said:
BUT if your insulted with Sammy's ad, you must have been EXTREMELY INSULTED by Apple's add that made Apple users look like complete IDIOTS! You know, the ones they pulled off the air? If a company can depict THEIR OWN customers in this fashion, how can you seriously be so surprised or offended by a competing company making such an ad. Seriously now. :rolleyes:
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I don't know if I read that into Apple's ad, but I do think it makes me roll my eyes a lot (I just looked it up cause I've never seen the actual ads people keep mentioning).

It's too obviously touting its own horn as a way to sell itself to you...

I'm surprised Apple put those out, at least the one I saw was horrid and more likely to just be obnoxious than sell anything.

Honestly, it's annoying in the same way the Samsung users in the Samsung ad we are discussing are annoying. I guess one article I saw while looking up the apple ad was right, it makes apple look too smarmy (as the Samsung users in the Samsung ad come off as smarmy too).
 
I love it. Especially when he is waiting in line for his parents. So true. Btw. I have an iPhone.
 
I actually find Samsung's ads clever and funny. I dunno, i have an iphone. But i am not like what ppl call an apple fanboy. So when i see things like this it makes me laugh actually. Reminds me of the old pc and mac ads.
 
dkersten said:
Yes because calling Samsung immature when it in no way affects either you or your graphic design business is real mature. And you think Samsung cares about a little advertising money. It floors me why you would cheer Apple on as they overcharge for most of their products and take pride in them selling more units than Samsung as if you made that money or accomplished something.

And if you really stood by Apple you would call them out on all their **** too, not just treat them like they can do no wrong.
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Was it the troll comment? I cheer Apple on because despite all the crap about being a Mac or an iPhone, and this and that, they prove themselves. Even as you said, "overcharging" people, people still wait hours upon hours for THEIR product. Or they'll wake up at 3:01am est just to pre order that product. Overcharging, maybe, selling out time after time, yes. If you feel they are overcharging people, then simply, that product is not for you. It doesn't really have to impact your life that drastically that you feel the need to tell me I should call them out on their *****. They're a company. A coorporation. They're successful. What's your point here?
 
A desperate ploy by a company with an inferior product.

Samsung Ad team Meeting:

Derp, the only way our product is better than the competition is with a bigger screen and it's contrast ratio, NFC, and removable sotrage and battery and software differences.

Let's, derp advertise about how great our form factor and software features are because, derp our product sucks in every other dimension.

Samsung is pretty much using the only leg it has to stand on and it's sad.
 
supersteve said:
Okay so the point of this add is to tell people now the iPhone is as good as an s3? And it's so good that people are lining up for it. Even older parents who never would have lined up for a phone before.

I just don't see their strategy with these ads. EPIC FAIL
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Not even close.

The point of the commercial is to hold up a mirror to the general public to get them to realize why they are attracted to the iPhone and Apple in general: to own a fashionable status symbol. It's not the features. It's not the specs or speed. It's the look and name.

There isn't anything inherently wrong with buying something for fashion or status. Samsung obviously has issues with it as it gives Apple a huge advantage. They are the Gucci or Armani of phones. They want to uncover the eyes of the public to show that they have a superficial desire for a phone that is very comparable to their own flagship, the S3, and they could've gotten it months ago.

I don't personally believe that it all boils down to that. I think the App store is a perfectly reasonable factor to choose the iPhone. The same can be said of the Apple ecosystem, iOS (although Jellybean is equal, but different IMO) and the build quality (although there is a reason cars are now made out of plastics instead of metal). I do believe there is a fashion status symbol thing going on there, though, and in that respect I agree with Samsung.

I don't agree with the dumb features they tout in these commercials. Sharing playlists by touching phones? Cute, but not essential. How about paying for your groceries with your phone? Seems a bit more useful.
 
dkersten said:
Yes because calling Samsung immature when it in no way affects either you or your graphic design business is real mature. And you think Samsung cares about a little advertising money. It floors me why you would cheer Apple on as they overcharge for most of their products and take pride in them selling more units than Samsung as if you made that money or accomplished something.

And if you really stood by Apple you would call them out on all their **** too, not just treat them like they can do no wrong.
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That over-charge thing is really persistent bs. Just because they optimised their supply lines and have a really well-oiled machine that churns out a good profit, does not mean they overprice; in most cases you get a superior, better finished product for a similar price.
 
Honestly, Samsung (and Android in general) can bash Apple all they want - but the bottom line is:

1. I tried EVERY SINGLE MAJOR Android phone ever made - I even owned the G1 when it first came out, then every Nexus phone, the GS2 and GS3 - I tried so hard to WANT to like it - but every piece of android hardware, no matter how good the "specs" are is a complete waste of time. Things that should be quick takes forever. Simple stuff like the keyboard layout isn't intuitive or good. Even with 2gig of ram my GS3 lagged more than my year old 4S. I want my phone to work on a basic level first and foremost. If it lags, it fails.

2. I am HAPPY that the iPhone simple and intuitive - in fact, I'm happy that iOS in general is like that. Apple makes their stuff fluid and easy to adapt to and use. Even when there are problems it's nothing like I experienced when using Android. They pay attention to details and they don't do useless features like "facial recognition unlocking". Even when I heard of that I knew it was a security disaster.

So can they improve? Yes. Does Android have some features like NFC and good maps that we want? Yes. But that's not enough to move to Android and sacrifice stability. And moreover, whenever Apple decides to go with NFC or another related technology, it'll be done right. Even Android users will have to agree that they WANT Apple to use NFC because it'll be the big push the technology needs to get mainstream.

Oh and about the whole "calling apple users dumb" thing is justifiable because Apple had an ad about there that does the same thing. Apple didn't insult their users the same way, arguably, but let's just say it's as bad. Samsung is hurting themselves by causing more people to be loyal to apple. Point being - just because I can make Asian jokes with my Asian friends doesn't mean someone else can.
 
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