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The answer is of course not, it's an undeniable fact that Samsung was singled out because it is a huge force in the technology sector, with the power to damage Apple.

It had a lot more to do with the fact that Touchwiz was a bit too obvious about the borrowing from iOS, imo. Even Google told Samsung to back off on the iPhone borrowing.
 
Sigh... I am sorry but I really have much work to do... I really don't have so much free time...

And yet you have time to read this thread?

For a start you Korean "Lovers" should read in depth as to how Samsung started and what was their core competency... Manufacturing (fabricating) parts to your clients specifications doesn't make you the innovator... Yes they found ways to realize their clients dreams, but the in-depth R&D was the clients blood and sweat... Then once you have some in-depth knowledge of how businesses work then maybe we will talk... Good bye and good night...

I don't love Koreans. I called you a Korean hater because you said all Koreans are copy cats.
I never said fabricating parts was being innovative. I said Samsung's fabrication technology is the reason why Apple continues to pick Samsung.
Also, what R&D are you talking about? You mean that non-existant R&D budget that Apple has compared to Samsung's monstrous $42 billion R&D budget for 2012? You Apple fans are unbelievable. I also read 1 week ago from an Apple fanboy that Samsung should pay up because Apple "spent billions developing touch to zoom." Man, my ribs still hurt from laughing so much. If you understand technology and engineering, you would appreciate just how innovative Samsung and LG are. Even Apple believes that. That's why they keep crawling back on all fours to Samsung and LG.
Apple does not innovate. They have good artists and they're good at designing eye-appealing devices, but when it comes to designing newer and more efficient technology and improving existing technology using new solutions, Samsung and LG are pretty much king.
 
Following the mediocre iP5, SGIII is the best thing out. By far.

So after the iPhone 5, the s3 is the next best thing by far? Looks like there are other contenders that are pretty close to the s3, so the "by far" qualifier seems out of place.
 
Can't they all just get along? :(
That's what happens when a company like Apple, that's already incredibly successful, is bent on playing the bully, and goes on the attack.

When a guy like Steve Jobs blows his top... (nice self control)


To put it into perspective for those who may have forgotten here's the quote:

“Grand theft. … I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go thermonuclear war on this.”


Note: I'm not passing judgement on the issue, but I am suggesting that there were several other ways to approach this without "losing it" and looking like a dolt.



http://allthingsd.com/20120604/bomb...rmonuclear-comment-fair-game-in-android-case/

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dolt
 
Following the mediocre iP5, SGIII is the best thing out. By far.

I'd still say iPhone 5 is slightly better than the SGSIII. Not by a lot, but it's still better nonetheless. SGSIII is pretty old in mobile tech world so it's expected.
I'm more interested in the lumia 920 and the optimus G.
The lumia 920 has some interesting features like, wireless charging, better camera than the iphone 5, and its high pixel density (332 ppi) on the 4.5" screen.
 
Sigh... I am sorry but I really have much work to do... I really don't have so much free time...

For a start you Korean "Lovers" should read in depth as to how Samsung started and what was their core competency... Manufacturing (fabricating) parts to your clients specifications doesn't make you the innovator... Yes they found ways to realize their clients dreams, but the in-depth R&D was the clients blood and sweat... Then once you have some in-depth knowledge of how businesses work then maybe we will talk... Good bye and good night...

You are completely crazy. You realize the amount of research thats required to be able to fab at 32nm let alone to produce OLED's, LCD, and many other things. Way more than it took for apple to figure out pinch to zoom or any of these other innovative things they keep bringing up.
 
nice try at tactical intellectual evasion but you failed cause you know exactly what i mean..:rolleyes:

phones that run google android POS system tend to be cheap and crappy.. and even the highest quality android phone is not built half as well of beautifully as the iPhone..


What about the LG Optimus G?

I'd say it looks pretty neat.
 
Manufacturing (fabricating) parts to your clients specifications doesn't make you the innovator... Yes they found ways to realize their clients dreams, but the in-depth R&D was the clients blood and sweat... Then once you have some in-depth knowledge of how businesses work then maybe we will talk... Good bye and good night...

And do you accuse others of not knowing?
 
Hey I like the new Samsung GS3 commercial. They now just need to intergrate all their lawsuits into the commercial. Maybe they can mention who has won the most injunctiions. Now that would be cool.
 
It's basically a USA x South Korea match.

These lawsuit threads are so patriotic...

I don't see any South Koreans in any of these threads. I do see a lot of people who are racist against Koreans though.
Unless you don't know, a lot of koreans hate Samsung. They view Samsung the same as when Americans viewed Rockefeller's Standard Oil company back in the 19th century, except Samsung is around 100x worse. Samsung is really a monster conglomerate.
Currently, the recorded annual revenue of Samsung Group is around $250 billion and their annual profit is around $20 billion; however, these numbers were only taken from around 25 of the 80 companies that make up Samsung Group. There are 55 other companies whose revenues and profits weren't recorded. Some estimate that Samsung's real annual revenue is closer to $700 billion with a profit of $100 billion every year. The latter estimate seems more reasonable. Why do I think that? It's confirmed that Samsung is spending $42 billion this year on R&D. If Samsung Group only made $20 billion in profits every year, they would be insane to spend twice their annual profits in R&D every year. They would go bankrupt. No sane management would say agree to this.
Also, the family that owns Samsung Group has a really complex chain of stock ownerships. It's really quite funny. The chairman has a controlling stake in Samsung Electronics, but the Samsung Electronics company owns shares of Samsung Ship building, which owns shares in Samsung hospital, which owns shares in Samsung insurance, and so on and so forth. This ensures the family's control over every company in Samsung Group. To my understanding, several mafia owned companies in the west are trying to emulate Samsung Group's stock ownership methods.

All things considered, I do share some of the sentiment that a lot of Koreans have on Samsung. Samsung does a lot of shady tax evasions, but it's not like they're raping children and performing satanic rituals. I honestly don't care that Samsung execs aren't paying taxes in their country (South Korea, so it has nothing to do with America). I do care, however, on what technological feat they're accomplishing. That's what I, the consumer, care about.
 
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Whenever we buy iPhone/iPad bulk of the money is going to Korea. China probably getting only $10-$20 in direct/indirect labor. So everyone of us is a Korea lover. Rest all is going into American creative accounting.

Sony along with other Japanese electronic concentrated on h/w design and ignored the software/services part. With Internet@TV/SmartTV/SmartHub Samsung became pioneer in this sector.

Because Sony couldn't sell TVs at profit, they sold their portion of LCD joint venture back to Samsung. Now large LCD Panel became a South Korean monopoly. This monopoly probably killed Apple's dreams of entering real TV market. Samsung/LG will never allow Apple to get into this field.

Here is an article in WSJ
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444840104577551972061864692.html
 
Your little mind is easily manipulated by Apples propaganda. You probably believe apple was the first to come up with the functions and features they've patented. You're quite pathetic actually to let these giant corporations manipulate you to such extremes.

What's the point of marketing if it doesn't make an effect on it's end-user? Go back to your coding assignment dweeb :D
 
I never said fabricating parts was being innovative. I said Samsung's fabrication technology is the reason why Apple continues to pick Samsung.
Also, what R&D are you talking about? You mean that non-existant R&D budget that Apple has compared to Samsung's monstrous $42 billion R&D budget for 2012? You Apple fans are unbelievable. I also read 1 week ago from an Apple fanboy that Samsung should pay up because Apple "spent billions developing touch to zoom." Man, my ribs still hurt from laughing so much. If you understand technology and engineering, you would appreciate just how innovative Samsung and LG are. Even Apple believes that. That's why they keep crawling back on all fours to Samsung and LG.
Apple does not innovate. They have good artists and they're good at designing eye-appealing devices, but when it comes to designing newer and more efficient technology and improving existing technology using new solutions, Samsung and LG are pretty much king.

Just because some Apple fanbois say ridiculous stuff doesn't mean you should too.

R&D budget doesn't necessarily mean more or less innovation. It takes less money to innovate in some areas than others. Consider software versus hardware.

"crawling back on all fours?" Really? If you understand technology and engineering, you'd know that even Apple has had a huge part in engineering the technology we use today. To think that Samsung and LG are kings of technology is absurd and discounts so many more companies who are more deserving.

I'll nominate two that, comparatively, leave Apple, LG, and Samsung on the same level:
Toshiba and Qualcomm.
 
Just because some Apple fanbois say ridiculous stuff doesn't mean you should too.

R&D budget doesn't necessarily mean more or less innovation. It takes less money to innovate in some areas than others. Consider software versus hardware.

Indeed... Samsung and LG aren't exactly software companies. They innovate on hardware, which has a pretty high R&D cost.
However, Apple never innovated with software. They took other people's ideas and made a good-looking device, but artistic talent does not equate to innovation.

"crawling back on all fours?" Really? If you understand technology and engineering, you'd know that even Apple has had a huge part in engineering the technology we use today. To think that Samsung and LG are kings of technology is absurd and discounts so many more companies who are more deserving.

Yes, but not today. Apple is a designing company now. They leave the technological and software innovations to other companies and copy off them.

I'll nominate two that, comparatively, leave Apple, LG, and Samsung on the same level:
Toshiba and Qualcomm.

I forgot about IBM. I'll nominate IBM over Samsung and LG. Toshiba and Qualcomm aren't even close.
 
I agree this is getting old and the only winners are the lawyers!

They should just pay each other any royalties owning and end this now.
 
I laugh at the people declaring their ban on Samsung products. Well I guess you better throw out your iPhones because you are essentially throwing money at Samsung through Apple.
 
I laugh at the people declaring their ban on Samsung products. Well I guess you better throw out your iPhones because you are essentially throwing money at Samsung through Apple.

I know. Samsung is so diversified and big that you can pretty much never escape them unless you live in the mountains in solitude.
This is Samsung's strategy. "Ok, you don't want to buy our consumer electronics product? Fine, you'll buy products from our competitors which have 20-60% of our technology and/or parts and you'll still be giving us money @ the end of the day."
Seriously. Samsung should change their motto to "You can't escape us!" Then they should announce "Samsung: You can't escape us!" commercial during the super bowl. I'm sure it'll give them lots of publicity, not to mention the *****torm it'll cause.
 
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