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New tech is on new phone. Waaaaaaat?!?



Nobody uses the stock iPhone earphones? Funny I see lots of people use them at the gym, running and as their default on the go buds.



They give you a free adapter you have to carry around like you carry around headphones? But poor baby can't bring an itty bitty adapter



Tell your friends that they either take care of their stuff poorly or they all have defects. Mine is great almost a year in.

You realize that there is absolutely NO downside to having a headphone jack right? I'm sure you will make a nice list.. also since your mister bluetooth you also realize that the Galaxy phones can still use bluetooth headphones even though they have a headphone jack. I have other stuff to say about your nonsense but don't feel like typing it out. I get it bluetooth is the future, blah, blah, blah..
 
I had an S8+ for a while recently, which has almost the same screen, I think 6.2 inch, and it was too tall and thin, I didn't like the aspect ratio. Plus the curved edges waste even more of it and makes it seem even thinner.
 
Meh.

The S8 is a stunning smartphone let down by some very strange hardware decisions (Bixby button/position of the fingerprint reader) and this seems to be more of the same. Typical Samsung really, they've really upped their game in recent years design wise but they always seem to spoil it.

Say what you like about Apple but they tend to get the hardware decisions right and avoid these kind of peculiarities.

From readings on the Internet and speaking with those who have the Galaxy S8, it doesn't seem like the fingerprint reader on the back is that much of an adjustment for those who actually have experience with it. For those who comment without having experience with the fingerprint reader on the back, are usually the ones to say something negative about it, because they have never even tried it before based off what they "Heard".
 
It's shipping with previous-generation Android 7.1.1 Nougat. Galaxy S8 is still on Android 7.0. These phones will never be upgradable to Oreo.
Oreo just got released and yes, both will get it.
Sammy's been better with their updates lately.
The Note 4 for example, which was released almost 3 years ago with 4.4.4 Kit Kat, was upgraded to 6.0.1 Marshmallow and even 7.0 Nougat in some regions and still receives security updates.
 
I have the S8+. And i'm going to switch back when the iphone 8 comes out. Visually, it is stunning, but after running it through all my apps, its just slow switching back and forth.

I actually like it for the frontier S3 watch. that is a big winner and it doesn't work well with an iphone. Damn you!!

Same here but I have the S8 no + and the watch which like you I really like. Problem I have with my 7+ is its just heavy and the chin and forehead are just huge (I don't like that).
 
With the rumoured iPhone 8 design and price, I think this may just be the device I'll be switching over to after 8 years of being an iPhone owner. Still gonna wait for the Apple keynote in case of any surprises and see what Google has to offer with their new Pixel, but at the moment the Note 8 is my prime candidate. Have been trying to convince myself to stay with the iPhone and iOS for the last couple of years but the competition is too good these days.
I’m curious about your decision logic. After 8 years as an iPhone owner, have you embraced the Apple ecosystem?

If so, will you not miss iCloud, cross-device app and data integration, continuity and handoff, global clipboard, iCloud Keychain, wallet, and all of the little conveniences that accrue by virtue of being in the ecosystem, not to mention the peace of mind that comes with a platform that respects your privacy and is not built to exploit your personal information and undermine your digital sovereignty?

Just curious because android or any platform or phone can never be good enough to convince me trust the google ecosystem and trade my digital personhood for free services or conveniences.
 
That's funny. It is a pretty phone. But hardware is already from January. The presentation was a joke. Most of it was talking about things we already basically have. This isn't a switcher phone. And w Samsung pulling out of most retail their service and support is going to drop quick.
 
Top notch design and not surprised they've opted to go with a dual-camera lens. The dual optical image stabilisation feature is pretty neat and the camera quality looks amazing. The S8's curvier edge is better, but I can see why they've tightened up the edge display slightly on the Note 8.

With the rumoured iPhone 8 design and price, I think this may just be the device I'll be switching over to after 8 years of being an iPhone owner. Still gonna wait for the Apple keynote in case of any surprises and see what Google has to offer with their new Pixel, but at the moment the Note 8 is my prime candidate. Have been trying to convince myself to stay with the iPhone and iOS for the last couple of years but the competition is too good these days.

As you are already switching to Android, I really don't see why one should choose Samsung instead of Pixel, or Huawei. Given Samsung's awful software, their phone only worth 2/3 of the asked prices.
 
The iPhone SE is compatible with Bluetooth Audio (A2DP profile)

Well sure (and I didn't dispute that), but the implication in your post was clearly that no other products feature the headphone jack socket anymore: "So, it’s basically the Samsung audio jack." That is really really obviously demonstrably false, even as a figure of speech. As would be the assertion that 'everyone' is using bluetooth now. No, some people use bluetooth, some people use wired headphones. Regardless of who makes the phone. Which is fine. But let's not pretend because Apple dropped the headphone socket on the iPhone 7 that no other devices with headphone sockets exist anymore, or that everyone in the world switched overnight. That would be silly.

Personally I would prefer Apple still include headphone sockets on their appropriate devices (i.e. anything that plays back music / audio) because I think their argument for not doing so is not good enough, especially when have sold and still sell much smaller devices that still retain it. I think its removal was as much (possibly more) about selling bluetooth headphones and earpods as it was for space and waterproofing concerns.
 
Are you seriously comparing a plastic stylus for a smartphone to the Apple Pencil with 32-bit RISC ARM-based Cortex-M3 MCU from ST Micro, a Bluetooth chip from Cambridge Silicon Radio, pressure and tilt/angle sensors, etc.?
It's a bit more than just a plastic stylus. ;)
This is the s-pen from the Note 2... can' find a pic of a new version, but it is far from being just a "plastic stylus".
Wirelessly powered via coil from the phone (inductive power... yay, no batteries), complete with pressure sensors and function buttons.

note-2-s-pen-disassembled.jpg



Here's a video of the Note 7 S-Pen... "breakdown" as they cannot be taken apart anymore.

 
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Fool me once....

just kidding lol, I actually really liked the Note 7 in the brief time I spent with it last year... it was Android i couldn't stand... But the phone was so awesome that I was going to stick with it until the iPhone 8 and skip the 7 altogether... But alas it was not meant to be and defective batteries got in the way of my plans.
 
I find this post (and the one you replied to) interesting given that this article is about a Samsung device, yet the Android owners are the ones who are whining, jealously no less. Hilarious. :rolleyes:

To be honest, I have yet to be disatisfied with any of the 4 Galaxy devices I've owned, other than the loss of features due to Samsung's bad habit of trying to copy Apple sometimes (#1 being the loss of a replaceable battery).

In my view they're the only ones really giving Apple a run for their (figurative) money (Apple sells more iPhones than any other company's single device), and the one true iPhone alternative for power users.

So the only jealousy I can speak to is me wanting all the features I have on my Note5 today (let alone this new, beautiful beast) on iPhone so I can have my integration cake and eat it too with a spoonful of "do-everything-without-restrictions-on-my-device" frosting.

Alas, this is Apple we're talking about. They have to leave something out for next year's model. Smart, really.
I don't doubt that Samsung makes a good product and, by providing viable competition to Apple, forces Apple to do the same. However, the difference would have to be substantial for me to walk away from my iMacs, MBP, AppleTVs, Apple Watches, iPad Pro, nearly 400 iTunes movies, thousands of iTunes songs, etc. as that ecosystem works very well for me.
 
My thoughts exactly. In a perfect world, whoever is designing Samsung Phones would be poached by Apple. The iP8 leaks look horrendous. They remind me of test units or something. Definitely not the final product that I would expect from a company that prides itself on design simplicity.

These things exploded the last time they were released. Did you people forget this? I'm quite sure Apple can and has designed the same styled phones themselves and then realized we can't release these because they ARE PROBLEMS.
 
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I’m curious about your decision logic. After 8 years as an iPhone owner, have you embraced the Apple ecosystem?

If so, will you not miss iCloud, cross-device app and data integration, continuity and handoff, global clipboard, iCloud Keychain, wallet, and all of the little conveniences that accrue by virtue of being in the ecosystem, not to mention the peace of mind that comes with a platform that respects your privacy and is not built to exploit your personal information and undermine your digital sovereignty?

Just curious because android or any platform or phone can never be good enough to convince me trust the google ecosystem and trade my digital personhood for free services or conveniences.

So your saying that Android the OS reads other applications data then shares it? So for example Android can read your Microsoft Word application data and share it with google? I guess what I don't understand is what a free service like Google Photos has to do with other apps installed on the device? Is it because you feel Android apps aren't sandboxed like Apple apps?
 
If only this ran iOS...

I've always said that.. can we trade Foxconn for Samsung
Basically iMessage and FaceTime are the only reasons im still an iPhone user.

I rarely used facetime but iMessage was a little rough until I figured out that since I have T-Mobile I can use Digits. Digits allows me to get text messages on all my other stuff including Macs, and Windows PCs (I think it works on the iPad too). I just install the Digits app and bingo.
 
I think the phone looks great and I'm excited about the dual cameras with OIS. However, as someone who recently received an S8 and previously had an iPhone 6S, Android software is unstable. Apps freeze and crash, and it's only been a week. Also, Android app quality is pretty bad compared to ios app quality. I'm using 3 different apps for texting and video whereas I used to use one. I do love how Android handles copy and paste - so much better than ios. Nice to have a file system now. I hope the iPone 8 looks good because I'll probably switch back to ios.
 
Is it because you feel Android apps aren't sandboxed like Apple apps?
Sandboxing on Android is a bit different than how iOS does it, but Android does do it natively.
Has been since Kit Kat.
Sammy has added the Knox container for additional app security which isolate them from other applications, including the app data.
Of course if you root your phone, all bets are off.;)
 
Not everyone is into laggy bluetooth audio and recharge everyday headphones.

Darn right !!! I don't answer my phone while driving, period. I use corded headphones, and earbuds with my dongles. I use the USB Input on my 2017 automobile for music playback. Bluetooth will never replace a shielded cable for me when it comes to music. :apple:
 
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